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    (Original post by Blamps)
    The righties go marching on! Sich heil mein fuhrer
    "Sieg heil mein Führer"

    If you are going to attempt to write a foreign language, then get it right.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    im assuming your making a comment referring to nazism.
    you believe that was right wing?
    yep
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    (Original post by Bigcnee)
    yep
    how more so than left?
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    (Original post by kildare)
    Left of centre on economic issues, and liberal when it comes to social ones...
    then thats not libertarian...
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    then thats not libertarian...
    A social libertarian as opposed to an authoritarian...
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    (Original post by kildare)
    A social libertarian as opposed to an authoritarian...
    of course.
    but libertarian is not left wing...
    it believes in almost no economic restrictions, minimal state and maximum rights to the individual.ie. heavily opposed to socialism.
    it is hard to put libertarian on a simple left-wing right-wing scale, because of the belief in social liberties, but its right-wing political and economic beliefs would tend to that direction.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    of course.
    but libertarian is not left wing...
    it believes in almost no economic restrictions, minimal state and maximum rights to the individual.ie. heavily opposed to socialism.
    it is hard to put libertarian on a simple left-wing right-wing, because of the belief in social liberties, but its right-wing political and economic beliefs would tend to that direction.
    She is referring to social policy rather than economic.
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    Exactly, the concept of "liberalism" isn't a purely economic one. Oh and Bigncee what makes you think I'm female?
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    (Original post by Bigcnee)
    She is referring to social policy rather than economic.
    so he doesnt care about economic policies? if he calls himself a libertarian then surely he must stand for that which is libertarian or classically liberal.
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    (Original post by kildare)
    Exactly, the concept of "liberalism" isn't a purely economic one. Oh and Bigncee what makes you think I'm female?
    which i addressed in my post.
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    (Original post by kildare)
    Exactly, the concept of "liberalism" isn't a purely economic one. Oh and Bigncee what makes you think I'm female?
    Sorry. You sounded too intelligent to be male.

    I guess its just an inbuilt association with Kildare and female. Is that where you live?
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    (Original post by Bigcnee)
    Sorry. You sounded too intelligent to be male.

    I guess its just an inbuilt association with Kildare and female. Is that where you live?
    Nah, I was born and lived there for the first twelve years of my life. I'm currently living, and attending school in Geneva though.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    so he doesnt care about economic policies? if he calls himself a libertarian then surely he must stand for that which is libertarian or classically liberal.
    Hmmm, semantics really aren’t that important to me. If my belief in progressive taxation doesn’t sit well with my belief in civil liberty under the banner “libertarian” then so be it.
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    (Original post by kildare)
    Hmmm, semantics really aren’t that important to me. If my belief in progressive taxation doesn’t sit well with my belief in civil liberty under the banner “libertarian” then so be it.
    well, theyre kinda contradictory.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    well, theyre kinda contradictory.
    I really don't see how, to be honest. But anyway...
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    well, theyre kinda contradictory.
    No.
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    (Original post by Bigcnee)
    No.
    libertarianism is the belief that the individual should be able to do what they please and have maximum self-determination. it is also the belief that this is reliant on both maximum social freedoms and maximum economic freedom. the state only intervenes to protect one persons freedom from anothers. progressive taxation is clearly an encroachment on what the libertarian believes is his right to do as he pleases. it is too complex to justify a natural right or left wing position, but in practicality, the restrictions placed on social liberty mean that its economic freedoms under a minimal state place it further to the right.
    if you still believe you can be libertarian and impose progressive or regressive taxation then i urge you to consult a political science guide.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    libertarianism is the belief that the individual should be able to do what they please and have maximum self-determination. it is also the belief that this is reliant on both maximum social freedoms and maximum economic freedom. the state only intervenes to protect one persons freedom from anothers. progressive taxation is clearly an encroachment on what the libertarian believes is his right to do as he pleases. it is too complex to justify a natural right or left wing position, but in practicality, the restrictions placed on social liberty mean that its economic freedoms under a minimal state place it further to the right.
    if you still believe you can be libertarian and impose progressive or regressive taxation then i urge you to consult a political science guide.
    As I stated previously, if my ideals can’t be neatly compartmentalized into one “theory”, be that “libertarianism” or any other for that matter, so be it. I still don’t see why thinking that someone should be allowed to smoke a joint in the comfort of their own home, and at the same time that £10,000 means less to Bill Gates then it does to you or I are mutually exclusive beliefs.
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    (Original post by kildare)
    As I stated previously, if my ideals can’t be neatly compartmentalized into one “theory”, be that “libertarianism” or any other for that matter, so be it. I still don’t see why thinking that someone should be allowed to smoke a joint in the comfort of their own home, and at the same time that £10,000 means less to Bill Gates then it does to you or I are mutually exclusive beliefs.
    i have no problem with that, but dont tell me that it can be compartmentalised and not contradictory. i would admit my beliefs are contradictory all the same.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    i have no problem with that, but dont tell me that it can be compartmentalised and not contradictory. i would admit my beliefs are contradictory all the same.
    I’ve never said that my beliefs can be compartmentalized, not do I feel they should be. Some of my beliefs are contradictory in some respects, but then I doubt there are many people who could claim otherwise.
 
 
 
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