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(Original post by davireland)
Yes because it means a right wing party can never win an election, dont you tihnk thats a tad unfair?
What?! How on earth is it unfair that less votes = less chance of forming a government?
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(Original post by Alasdair)
What?! How on earth is it unfair that less votes = less chance of forming a government?
So the party that performs best in an election can simply be ganged up on is fair?
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Who would you say are your main supporters? just out of intrest
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That sounds pretty Socialist to mee.
But not to me. Or the rest of the LibDems. Or Socialists. Or Labour. Just because we're partially on the left doesn't mean we should forget our centrist leanings and it doesn't mean we're Socialists.

Like who exactly?
They can identify themselves, as I've said before to L i b , I don't want to show who would have preferred a coalition with the centre-right, as it discloses what happens in our sub-forum.

Well that would solve a lot of problems and I have suggested that in the past.
If I'm honest, I would like to see this, to a degree. It would mean you could never have had an issue with our coalition. But then again, why are the Right not a single party?

If you can find "numerous issues" where you are on a common ground with us, then what the hell are you doing in a coalition with the Socialists and Labour with whom we have basically no common ground?
I'm sure you don't have much common ground with the Socialists and Labour but we do. We also have some common ground with the Tories. We have common ground with the Libertarians.
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There are right wing members of our party.
Really? I don't recall any of them voting against the railways nationalisation bill.
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Really? I don't recall any of them voting against the railways nationalisation bill.
Please see my answer to L i b
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...4&postcount=67


I never denied that the majority of our party are towards the left but we are still very centrist.
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How can the Tories accuse our coalition of being a "marriage of convenience", when they approached the Socialists for a coalition last session? Do they realise that their self-righteous *****ing smacks of hypocrisy?
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Who would you say are your main supporters? just out of intrest
Just about anyone that is interested in individuality, meritocracy and a free economy.
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We have common ground with the Libertarians.
No you don't. Or, rather, no more than any of the parties here. We're all students - who is homophobic or racist or any of the other socially illiberal things? That's the only ground our parties share (again, like all parties); please don't say things like the above. It makes us look bad.
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I'm going to propose an amendment that forces any coalition (government) to be formed with the party that has the largest number of seats. I don't know if I've got my party's support on it, because I've literally just decided that that's the best way forward.
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How can the Tories accuse our coalition of being a "marriage of convenience", when they approached the Socialists for a coalition last session? Do they realise that their self-righteous *****ing smacks of hypocrisy?
Because all you have sought is the governmentship, and you defended the speaker after he broke the rules - and justified it by saying not us, blame the man who knew the rules.

You do know that your lead partner did approach us asking to be in an administration led by us. Or did Dayne keep that from you
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(Original post by Mrgd291190)
Please see my answer to L i b
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...4&postcount=67


I never denied that the majority of our party are towards the left but we are still very centrist.
Are there any 'right wing' Lib Dem MPs?
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No you don't. Or, rather, no more than any of the parties here. We're all students - who is homophobic or racist or any of the other socially illiberal things? That's the only ground our parties share (again, like all parties); please don't say things like the above. It makes us look bad.
That's exactly what I intended. We have common ground with all parties. I assume you're liberal on e.g. drug legislation and the like? Thus we have more in common than we would with other parties.
Just because we disagree on economic matters, I'd assume, I'd say that socially, we're probably going to be in agreement more often than not. Or, I'd hope so.
Looking at some people on TSR, all students, a hell of a lot are socially illiberal.

Wow, sorry if it makes you look bad, that I think I agree with you on some matters. That's a true tragedy, I'm sure.
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Are there any 'right wing' Lib Dem MPs?
This is going off-topic rapidly, feel free to ask in our question thread. But on the whole, I'd say there would be one or two. But once again, I won't give names.
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Because all you have sought is the governmentship, and you defended the speaker after he broke the rules - and justified it by saying not us, blame the man who knew the rules.

You do know that your lead partner did approach us asking to be in an administration led by us. Or did Dayne keep that from you
I am well aware that there was discussion between the Lib Dems and your party. I would have been suprised if Dayne hadn't considered all of his options.

Do you accept that your party leader is a hypocrite?
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How can the Tories accuse our coalition of being a "marriage of convenience", when they approached the Socialists for a coalition last session? Do they realise that their self-righteous *****ing smacks of hypocrisy?
That was to prove a point, against yours and the Lib Dems inactivity, it was in no way politically motivated.
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Do you accept that your party leader is a hypocrite?
Can you please stop with the personal attacks, Nick ive never ever said anything like that about you, I dont come in here to be labelled a hypocrite by you or insulted by Alasdair.
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Can you please stop with the personal attacks, Nick ive never ever said anything like that about you, I dont come in here to be labelled a hypocrite by you or insulted by Alasdair.
I don't believe it's a personal attack. You and other members of your party have been questioning and attacking the Lib Dems on how they fit in with the coalition based on their ideology. Considering the parties you've approached in the past, I think "hypocrite" is a fair description of you and your party.
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Tbh you deserve insults. This day of posting has seen the most pathetic, whiny, insubstantial and frankly ridiculous posts I have ever seen in the HoC. Why couldn't you have simply accepted that we made a coalition that had more votes than yours? Do the useless titles mean that much to you? How can you accuse us of being too partisan and then say how you will vote against an amendment to specifically allow more than 2 parties in a coalition because you won't "ever get in government" (erm, who was in government last term?)? You have unashamedly thrown all of your toys out of the pram and have revealed to the House that you have no right to ever earn votes from the public again.
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Tbh you deserve insults. This day of posting has seen the most pathetic, whiny, insubstantial and frankly ridiculous posts I have ever seen in the HoC. Why couldn't you have simply accepted that we made a coalition that had more votes than yours? Do the useless titles mean that much to you? How can you accuse us of being too partisan and then say how you will vote against an amendment to specifically allow more than 2 parties in a coalition because you won't "ever get in government" (erm, who was in government last term?)? You have unashamedly thrown all of your toys out of the pram and have revealed to the House that you have no right to ever earn votes from the public again.
It wasnt about the titles, because like people have said government means nothing, what i resent is working hard to get a decent election result and getting the most ever seats a tory party has recieved and yet still not be declared as the winners, its like whats the point of even bothering with this anymore?
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