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So I wasn't expecting this - but I got accepted into the MPhil in European Politics and Society at Oxford a couple weeks back. Of course, I'm international and applied a bit late so I got no funding. And I also go into LSE's MSc Politics and Govt of the European Union. Also, no funding through their support scheme.

Um - so help please?

I got into two fantastic programs, but I am scared either 1) I am going to make the wrong choice or 2) Never get out of debt.

Oxford = 2 years so more pricey in the long run as far as tuition goes.
But, one year in London is still going to be $$$. The city itself is more expensive to live in...

However, what I am worried is that if I take loans to finance either (especially two years at Oxford), I will never be able to pay them back on a professors salary (I already have loans from undergrad).

Also, anyone have thoughts on how the programs compare? This is what I really need help on. Professors at my former University are telling me that if I want to go the academia route, Oxford will be best. But if I want a job, either would be good - LSE maybe a bit better here.

Any help / thoughts ???? Anyone else in the same programs ????
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I totally lolled at the title
sorry completely useless
cheer up, you got in to Oxford
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i would go for oxford, a degree from there will get you out of your debt in no time.
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*reads the thread's title*

*reads the title again*

Er, celebrate?

Are you ******* kidding me? xD
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You got into Oxford... You figure it out! :p:
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you need to look at each course in detail and compare them. list pros and cons of each, look up the faculties, and perhaps email graduates from the courses for feedback. it can't hurt. Unless you're in a really precarious situation or there's a massive difference between the cost of each course I'd forget about money for a while - you can sort that stuff out later in life when you're earning a decent whack as some EU mandarin.

you also need to think about your life and where you'd prefer to be in 10 years time - academia or a "real" job? does academia excite you? if so from what you've said I'd pick Oxford. both have great reputations so I imagine finding a job will be pretty easy with either degree.

also, think about Oxford vs London as places to live. visit if you can, talk to friends etc. London is a great place but it can be intimidating if you're alone here for the first time with only a small group of postgrads. life there won't be more expensive than two years living in Oxford, but it's only worth picking London for the nightlife/culture/etc if you'll actually have time to do and see those things - if you're genuinely going to be studying full-time (evenings etc) then perhaps a College environment would be more convenient than a long tube journey in and out of the LSE each day.

really, it depends on what kind of person you are and on a couple of your preferences - do you want a life in academia? if so Oxford. are you interested in living in an fast-paced big city? if so London. good luck with your choice, it's a good one to have.
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Good luck with your choices.

I can certainly empathise (apart from the international fees)
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You are only just starting your masters, you definitely won't be paying them back on a professor's salary, thats a looong way ahead :p:.
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(Original post by threedaystar)
So I wasn't expecting this - but I got accepted into the MPhil in European Politics and Society at Oxford a couple weeks back. Of course, I'm international and applied a bit late so I got no funding. And I also go into LSE's MSc Politics and Govt of the European Union. Also, no funding through their support scheme.

Um - so help please?

I got into two fantastic programs, but I am scared either 1) I am going to make the wrong choice or 2) Never get out of debt.

Oxford = 2 years so more pricey in the long run as far as tuition goes.
But, one year in London is still going to be $$$. The city itself is more expensive to live in...

However, what I am worried is that if I take loans to finance either (especially two years at Oxford), I will never be able to pay them back on a professors salary (I already have loans from undergrad).

Also, anyone have thoughts on how the programs compare? This is what I really need help on. Professors at my former University are telling me that if I want to go the academia route, Oxford will be best. But if I want a job, either would be good - LSE maybe a bit better here.

Any help / thoughts ???? Anyone else in the same programs ????

IT'S A TRAP
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You are only just starting your masters, you definitely won't be paying them back on a professor's salary, thats a looong way ahead :p:.
Not in the US, pretty much everyone who gets a job as what the UK would could a lecturer is called a professor - whereas here we have postdocs and Fellows/lecturers, there they have Assistant Professors.
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(Original post by wadhamite)
Not in the US, pretty much everyone who gets a job as what the UK would could a lecturer is called a professor - whereas here we have postdocs and Fellows/lecturers, there they have Assistant Professors.
Indeed, however I believe that Oxford is in the UK :dontknow:. :p:

I suppose if she's going back to America afterwards then it would make sense :p:.
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Firstly, congratulations on making Oxford!
My Dad went to Jesus college to do phonetic linguistics as a postgrad, and he tells me that having Oxford on his CV REALLY gives him the edge. I'd take Oxford, its a much nicer place too!
Good luck =-D
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(Original post by Mithra)
Indeed, however I believe that Oxford is in the UK :dontknow:. :p:

I suppose if she's going back to America afterwards then it would make sense :p:.
I blame exams for rotting my brain
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(Original post by Mithra)
Indeed, however I believe that Oxford is in the UK :dontknow:. :p:

I suppose if she's going back to America afterwards then it would make sense :p:.
Yup - I am American. Usually I am pretty good on making sure I use the UK equivalent of words - but I messed up on that one. I was meaning American tenured University professors (which is the highest teaching and research you can do in the states).

Also - I while I would love to stay in the EU, my lack of EU citizenship is going to be a barrier after school. So I am guessing, that moving back to the states for a job is going to be likely.
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Firstly, congratulations on making Oxford!
My Dad went to Jesus college to do phonetic linguistics as a postgrad, and he tells me that having Oxford on his CV REALLY gives him the edge. I'd take Oxford, its a much nicer place too!
Good luck =-D
I applied for Jesus as one of my top choices. Still don't know my college - but I am x-ing my fingers that I get in!
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Now you ruined your life.
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Now you ruined your life.
Pray tell?
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I applied for Jesus as one of my top choices. Still don't know my college - but I am x-ing my fingers that I get in!
Hey awesome! What did you apply for?
Jesus is a good location aswell as really nice place, so good luck! =D

Edit : Whoops, I just noticed you started the thread so I now know what you applied for!
How does the Oxford admissions process actually work?
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(Original post by threedaystar)
Also - I while I would love to stay in the EU, my lack of EU citizenship is going to be a barrier after school. So I am guessing, that moving back to the states for a job is going to be likely.
I shouldn't think so - I think you can stay for a year or so after you finish studying, and if you can get a job, you should easily meet the skilled migrant requirements for the UK/EU - there seem to be plenty of foreign (non-EU, esp. US, Australia, NZ) staff teaching at Oxford.
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I shouldn't think so - I think you can stay for a year or so after you finish studying, and if you can get a job, you should easily meet the skilled migrant requirements for the UK/EU - there seem to be plenty of foreign (non-EU, esp. US, Australia, NZ) staff teaching at Oxford.
I am hoping for this. My research field in primarily based in western Europe - so it would be easiest to stay. I also have commonwealth status (due to having a dual citizenship) - I hope that this may make the work requirements a bit easier as well.

However, I would love to return eventually to the states to teach and research at my alma mater (yes...I loved it that much). We will see though >> a lot can change in the next couple years.
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