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    (Original post by *SANDIE*)
    Im not a lesbian no ... i have gay/lesbian friends though and I hate the way they are treated by homophobes who disciminate against them. This isnt implying TK0 becuase although he doesnt agree with it he seems to keep his opinions to himself. You on the other hand are a disrespectful fool who is denying the evidence from the studies. If you were so intelligent you would be more rational when dealing with the issue of homosexuality
    agreed, they are people like anyone else and deserve to be treated no differently.
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    (Original post by armatillian)
    u classify ppl as fools if they disagree with u - o the irony!!

    as 4 denyin evidence read my last post - evidence is ridiculously shaky at best!!
    And read my post responding to that ... the study was as objective as ANY STUDY IN THIS FIELD EVER COULD BE. The homophobes got a hard on ... what can i say?

    I called you a fool due to saying 'homosexuality is a disease'
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    (Original post by TK0)
    agreed, they are people like anyone else and deserve to be treated no differently.
    My sentiments entirely
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    (Original post by *SANDIE*)
    Actually. Most of the homophobic(gay) men participated to 'prove' how macho and masculine they were. Many were devastased when they found out that they were actually gay themselves. I thought that ethically, this study was a bit wrong ... but the findings they gave showed the sexuality of the homophobic men in a way not measurable by anything else other than a ring over the penis.

    And they werent naked lol!
    i have found a study saying that 80% of non peadaphiles got aroused by child pron. they watched it 2 prove how normal they were and were horrified at results!!

    u wuld laff at this claim - yet u believe the 1 u found without the slitest hint of doubt and expect me 2.
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    (Original post by armatillian)
    i have found a study saying that 80% of non peadaphiles got aroused by child pron. they watched it 2 prove how normal they were and were horrified at results!!

    u wuld laff at this claim - yet u believe the 1 u found without the slitest hint of doubt and expect me 2.
    The thing is, 80% of normal people would find child porn horrific and wouldnt get a hard on. Yet the homophobs got hard ons looking at gay bum sex.
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    (Original post by armatillian)
    i have found a study saying that 80% of non peadaphiles got aroused by child pron. they watched it 2 prove how normal they were and were horrified at results!!

    u wuld laff at this claim - yet u believe the 1 u found without the slitest hint of doubt and expect me 2.
    That study would never come up with those results...however Adams Wright et al. study did.
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    (Original post by *SANDIE*)
    That study would never come up with those results...however Adams Wright et al. study did.
    u keep defendin the evidence!!

    40 years ago no1 wuld defend homosexuals now its accepted - liberalism gone mad!! - wot next i wonder - marriages between kids and adults!!

    think how disgusted that makes u - thats how the reaction used 2 be 2 homosexuals!!
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    (Original post by armatillian)
    u keep defendin the evidence!!

    40 years ago no1 wuld defend homosexuals now its accepted - liberalism gone mad!! - wot next i wonder - marriages between kids and adults!!

    think how disgusted that makes u - thats how the reaction used 2 be 2 homosexuals!!
    Homosexuality doesn't harm anyone. Paedophilia does.

    Being a homophobe is exactly being like a racist. Being black and being gay are both things that you have no control over. I suppose you are racist as well as homophobic?
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    (Original post by armatillian)
    u keep defendin the evidence!!

    40 years ago no1 wuld defend homosexuals now its accepted - liberalism gone mad!! - wot next i wonder - marriages between kids and adults!!

    think how disgusted that makes u - thats how the reaction used 2 be 2 homosexuals!!
    we also used to persicute jews, and burn people at the stake.
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    (Original post by *SANDIE*)
    Homosexuality doesn't harm anyone. Paedophilia does.

    Being a homophobe is exactly being like a racist. Being black and being gay are both things that you have no control over. I suppose you are racist as well as homophobic?
    thats below the belt - i wuld not accuse anyone of such a thing!! racism is disgusting - and i dont want 2 use a strained argument but i do have many black firends.

    im just stating my opinions - there wuld be no concievable reason 4 a gay gene - therefore if there is one it must be an accident and so broadly classified as a nuiscance gene that afflicts u - mayb even a disease!!

    and if not then its a consiouse thought and decision and i find that wrond as its completely against nature!!

    i think thats a fair argument - fairer than i found it in a study
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    (Original post by armatillian)
    thats below the belt - i wuld not accuse anyone of such a thing!! racism is disgusting - and i dont want 2 use a strained argument but i do have many black firends.

    im just stating my opinions - there wuld be no concievable reason 4 a gay gene - therefore if there is one it must be an accident and so broadly classified as a nuiscance gene that afflicts u - mayb even a disease!!

    and if not then its a consiouse thought and decision and i find that wrond as its completely against nature!!

    i think thats a fair argument - fairer than i found it in a study
    Whats below the belt? Comparing a racist to a homophobe? Tell me the difference ...
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    God bless A-level specifications for creating a breed of know-all-yet-nothing geneticists! The genome and its expression are a LOT more complicated than you think! Plus - following nature all the time would have some 'interesting' consequences...

    Ben
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    (Original post by Ben.S.)
    God bless A-level specifications for creating a breed of know-all-yet-nothing geneticists! The genome and its expression are a LOT more complicated than you think! Plus - following nature all the time would have some 'interesting' consequences...

    Ben
    Very interesting ... and what I said before racists and homophobes are the scum of the earth get rid of them!
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    (Original post by Ben.S.)
    God bless A-level specifications for creating a breed of know-all-yet-nothing geneticists! The genome and its expression are a LOT more complicated than you think! Plus - following nature all the time would have some 'interesting' consequences...

    Ben
    Well if there was a gay gene, regardless of whther it was a dominant or recessive allele, there shuld be a lot more ppl in families with the phenotype that displays gay characterisitics than the token 1 – as there usually is.

    And if u r 2 tell me that otha ppl in the family r gay but simply hide it and marry women then how can it be a gene – I don’t see ppl with the gene 4 blue eyes turning them green when around green-eyed ppl.

    As 4 racists and homophobes – well u said it best when u said how can u compare peadaphiles 2 homophobes. At least those 2 both have sick sexual preferences – whereas there is no link between h8 ppl of otha races and h8in gays.
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    (Original post by armatillian)
    where i *** from every man h8s gays cos its just wrong......its not cos were all homos its just cos homosexuality is disgustin.

    btw the few ppl who did becum gay at my skool were all ugly fukers who had neva had a girl be4...once they became gay there were smashin guys all the time - its just a case of needs must i reckon.

    also no otha species has gay animals as they are geared 4 survival - provin the point that homosexuality is a result of situation not ne lame excuse like genes.
    You really should take just one second to think before you spout your senseless drivel. It's all very easy for you as a straight person to sit there and speak your intolerant crap, but maybe if you put yourself for just one second in the shoes of a gay person who finds it just as unnatural to have a relationship with someone of the opposite sex as you would with someone of the same sex. Surely even your clearly limited intellectual capacity is capable of such a visualisation (no one with even a modicum of intelligence would come out with such worthless arguments as 'homosexuality is disgusting because it's just wrong' etc.).

    Perhaps also you could be so kind as to point out to us exactly why it's wrong, using arguments more advanced than 'it's wrong' and 'it's disgusting'. Whatever you want to call it, a result of evolution or merely a product of one's environment (clearly utter crap, but let's humour him), how is it harming you? Why should you have the right to decide what people can do in the private life? Why should you decide what's right and what's wrong? Do you really think that you are that worthy? I fail to see how a relationship practised between two consenting adults (whether same or opposite sex) can be considered wrong. Please enlighten me.
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    (Original post by *SANDIE*)
    Whats below the belt? Comparing a racist to a homophobe? Tell me the difference ...
    Absolutely nothing, apart from one is for some reason more socially acceptable than the other. Both racism and homophobia are equally bad and someone who fails to realise this is both worthless scum and inherently stupid.
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    Absolutely nothing, apart from one is for some reason more socially acceptable than the other. They are both equally bad and someone who fails to realise this is both worthless scum and inherently stupid.
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    (Original post by armatillian)
    Well if there was a gay gene, regardless of whther it was a dominant or recessive allele, there shuld be a lot more ppl in families with the phenotype that displays gay characterisitics than the token 1 – as there usually is.

    And if u r 2 tell me that otha ppl in the family r gay but simply hide it and marry women then how can it be a gene – I don’t see ppl with the gene 4 blue eyes turning them green when around green-eyed ppl.

    As 4 racists and homophobes – well u said it best when u said how can u compare peadaphiles 2 homophobes. At least those 2 both have sick sexual preferences – whereas there is no link between h8 ppl of otha races and h8in gays.
    Are your fingers actually controlled by anything!?!? Most of what you typed is ABSOLUTE garbage - not WORTH dignifying with a considered response. You know not of what you speak (particularly evident in your second paragraph) - you are no scientist (that much is clear by your lack of knowledge or open-mindedness). Racism is analagous with homophobia and I'd dearly like to see you try and prove otherwise (and NOT using ridiculous, opinionated phrases - as Richard aptly pointed out).

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    (Original post by armatillian)
    u keep defendin the evidence!!

    40 years ago no1 wuld defend homosexuals now its accepted - liberalism gone mad!! - wot next i wonder - marriages between kids and adults!!

    think how disgusted that makes u - thats how the reaction used 2 be 2 homosexuals!!
    And 40 yrs ago interracial mariage was unaccepted, do you believe that is also wrongly accepted now?
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    LOL - u are all so ridiculosuly misguided. you all like 2 sit there and say "you are stupid" and you "are wrong" - yet no1 will prove where i am wrong. 2 merely point out a mistake is easy but to prove it shows intellect. as 4 the worthless rubbish being spouted by one of you (who is clearly gay) - you say i am intolerant of otha ppls views and so am scum - yet u make this remark based on the fact that you disagree with my own views - are you familiar with irony.

    As 4 ben.s - you keep saying how stpid i am and say smugly that i no nothing - but u have failed 2 once enlighten me with a correction. you imply u have a superior scientific intellect - as humble as it is i have recieved various science awards and have abeen offered a place at imperial 2 study a scientific degree. if you are indeed a figure in science with superior qualifications and you can point out my mistakes then i (non sarcastically) apolagise in advance.

    as 4 your moral arguments they have all been shaped 4 you by society and are so tired it makes me sad that free opinion and origianl thought are being replaced with those implanted in you by others.

    i do not feel i am "superior" - what a stupid argument - we are in a forum - an open place 4 discussion and opinion you fool.
 
 
 
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