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(Original post by philly_boy)
So tell us, are you all as bigoted as most think?
What are your views on asylum, immigration etc?
Nah we are not bigoted, the media which has rules imposed on it by the mainstream parties (via trade unions) force them to call us all the names under the sun. Its true that we have right wing views on asylum/imigration, this is because Britain is the 4th most overcrowded country in the world which is why we want to stop immigration alltogether. When it comes to race we dont hate anyone, but we do think its wrong that white people are going the be a minority in Britain in 50-60 years time. We belive our ancestors built this country for us (their children) not for immigrants. We also think its wrong that our government are treating white people as 2nd class citizens in our own country, some of the things they are coming up with are so racist, that if it were the other way around (i.e against blacks) there would be uproar. We also think its wrong they treat BNP members as 3rd class citizens (i.e banning us from police force,prison service,trade unions etc) we have a different point of view to them, but is that not the point in democracy? What they do to us is on par with what happends to political opponents in Zimbabwe.
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4th most overcrowded country in the world
Evidence

We belive our ancestors built this country for us (their children) not for immigrants
Are you talking about the Celts, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, or Normans here? All different races. All examples of immigration. Aha, but they had WHITE faces!

trade unions
Why do you expect Trade Unions to accept you scum when you want to deport thousands of their members.

What would happen to our health system? Our services? What would you do with mixed race people? What would you do with people who have lived here for generations like some Jews? A load of ridiculous fitlh that belongs in the dustbin of history.
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I am a member of the Conservative party.
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(Original post by Douglas)
Would this be the "socialist workers" party?? As defined by Howie

Well, I dont know how Howard defined it, and id rather not allow myself to classify myself under his description.

The motto for the party is "everyone matters."
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(Original post by canuck)
The motto for the party is "everyone matters."
But some matter more than others, right? How Orwellian.
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(Original post by Douglas)
Is the labour party in favor of powerful unions? The type of unions that break the back of the economy??
I dont know if that was a sarcastic comment coming from a Tory supporter, but NEW Labour is against Unions and has strengthened the economy since 1997, sorting out the mess left created by previous Tory government, which is why we now have stability, persistent growth rates and the rest of it.
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(Original post by john williams)
I dont know if that was a sarcastic comment coming from a Tory supporter, but NEW Labour is against Unions and has strengthened the economy since 1997, sorting out the mess left created by previous Tory government, which is why we now have stability, persistent growth rates and the rest of it.
Our so called "strong economy" is based entirely around debt and debt alone. We have NO maufacturing base, NOTHING worth while is made in Britain anymore. If our housing market crashed tomorrow we would be living in a third world country. Plus add the fact that oil extraction has peaked but more and more countries are needing more and more of it now. In 30-60 years time our economy will crash and will have a bigger impact than the 1930s depression. The only way to prevent this is to pull Britain out of the EU, and make a few laws to end the free market.
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NEW Labour [...] has strengthened the economy since 1997, sorting out the mess left created by previous Tory government, which is why we now have stability, persistent growth rates and the rest of it.
Are you lot clones? I swear you all enter Party Political Broadcast mode the moment you have the chance, off by heart too..
Labour "Against Unions" is a new bit though, I never thought a party with a name like that would oppose the freedom of association of labourers.
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which is why we now have stability, persistent growth rates and the rest of it.
Along with pensioner poverty and exploited workers.

We have no solid base in this country. If we start spending less as is happening now, and services jobs start to dissappear we have nothing to fall back on. We are like a house of cards. However, repatriating people who contribute to our economy and public services wouldn't exactly help the situation would it Mr. Hitler?
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(Original post by psychic_satori)
But some matter more than others, right? How Orwellian.

I haven't seen any right wing party adopt a motto anywhere near that.

Of course, only 10% of the population actually matter to right wingers. The rest are drones to be exploited.
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(Original post by canuck)
I haven't seen any right wing party adopt a motto anywhere near that.
Conservatives aren't the hippy-dippy sort to come up with a party motto from a bumpersticker seen on a 1968 VW bus.

Of course, only 10% of the population actually matter to right wingers. The rest are drones to be exploited.
Is that the percentage of Canadians that have jobs these days? If so, then possibly, as those are the predominant members of conservative parties.

Also, I'm curious as to how the socialist party is NOT exploiting those with large incomes, or even moderate incomes, with their proposed tax schemes?
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(Original post by psychic_satori)
Conservatives aren't the hippy-dippy sort to come up with a party motto from bumpersticker seen on a 1968 VW bus.

Is that the percentage of Canadians that have jobs these days? If so, then possibly, as those are the predominant members of conservative parties.

Also, I'm curious as to how the socialist party is NOT exploiting those with large incomes, or even moderate incomes, with their proposed tax schemes?
Hahahah brilliant.
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I echo that!
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"Drones to be exploited" ?

Sounds a bit harsh since government relies on productive taxpayers for its very existence.
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(Original post by psychic_satori)
Is that the percentage of Canadians that have jobs these days? If so, then possibly, as those are the predominant members of conservative parties.
Your ignorance is astounding. 10% is a gross exaggeration. The current unemployment rate is 6.8%.

Get your facts right.


And, taxing the rich because they are rich is not socailism. Socailism tries to narrow the gap between the rich and poor, while right winged capitalism tries to expand the gap to maximise profits. The oligarchy we live in today seems to eliminate entrepreneurial attempts by small business owners. Big corporations dominate the influence in right wing parties. When you elect a right wing party, you "maximise" the profits for the corporations.

"maximise profits" wow, im sounding like a capitalist. That statement is the foundation for the capitalist idealism. YOu know how you "maximise" profits"? Well, you cut wages, eliminate safety standards, cut pensions, cut worker benifits, and cut jobs in order to be "more competative." Right wing goverments increase the tax burden on the middle income and low income families, cut public services or just reduce their budget so the become almost ineffective. The media corporations paint a rosy picture of the economy so that you are brainwashed into thinking that you (the worker) is actually benifiting.

Im sure your totally ignorant of the labour job. Sitting in a room, around a computer the whole time does let ya lose touch with reality. Tell me, what type of work experience have you had? Have you even worked a labour job?

Let me tell ya, ive worked plenty of labour jobs, and i have a idea of what it's like. It seems most right wingers i know seem to avoid labour jobs. They seem to be afraid to get their hands dirty
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(Original post by philly_boy)
Hahahah brilliant.

Well, the word "brilliant" obviously dosn't describe you. For god sakes man, you live here and you dont even know the unemployment rate.
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(Original post by philly_boy)
"Drones to be exploited" ?

Sounds a bit harsh since government relies on productive taxpayers for its very existence.

Funny, in Newfoundland the unemployment rate is 16% but the goverment will be out of debt next year. You know why that is so? Well, when you open up all that oil, you dont really great jobs. Foreigners come and work, then leave. Yet, as 16% of the people in Newfoundland are without jobs, the conservative goverment hasn't even attempted to train the locals to create local jobs.
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Your ignorance is astounding. 10% is a gross exaggeration. The current unemployment rate is 6.8%.

Get your facts right.


And, taxing the rich because they are rich is not socailism. Socailism tries to narrow the gap between the rich and poor, while right winged capitalism tries to expand the gap to maximise profits. The oligarchy we live in today seems to eliminate entrepreneurial attempts by small business owners. Big corporations dominate the influence in right wing parties. When you elect a right wing party, you "maximise" the profits for the corporations.

"maximise profits" wow, im sounding like a capitalist. That statement is the foundation for the capitalist idealism. YOu know how you "maximise" profits"? Well, you cut wages, eliminate safety standards, cut pensions, cut worker benifits, and cut jobs in order to be "more competative." Right wing goverments increase the tax burden on the middle income and low income families, cut public services or just reduce their budget so the become almost ineffective. The media corporations paint a rosy picture of the economy so that you are brainwashed into thinking that you (the worker) is actually benifiting.

Im sure your totally ignorant of the labour job. Sitting in a room, around a computer the whole time does let ya lose touch with reality. Tell me, what type of work experience have you had? Have you even worked a labour job?

Let me tell ya, ive worked plenty of labour jobs, and i have a idea of what it's like. It seems most right wingers i know seem to avoid labour jobs. They seem to be afraid to get their hands dirty
he said only 10% of people HAVE jobs(he was taking the mick)
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(Original post by LC01)
he said only 10% of people HAVE jobs(he was taking the mick)
He is a she

what the hell is "mick"
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Well, the word "brilliant" obviously dosn't describe you. For god sakes man, you live here and you dont even know the unemployment rate.
Whoa man..chillax!

The April 2005 unemployment rate was 6.8%....I wasn't saying 10% was accurate, just the post overall!
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