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W/Salaams Milli,

how you been?
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W/Salaams Milli,

how you been?
fine alhamdulillah and you?
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fine alhamdulillah and you?
i've been good alhamdulilah, just caught up with coursework mainly :hmpf:
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I wanted to ask as muslims, where do most of you go out with friends? Since now the 'club/ rave' scene is pretty big then where do most of you go? Cafes? I prefer a good chat to a thumping loud club/ party... Those huge places aren't my thing...
Totally agree, also the cinema or gym is ok. I just hate it when my friends ask me wif i want to go the kauffir "pub", i have been 1 or 2 times when they kept asking but now i just make excuses as i really hate it so much drinking shaitons pis*; and the dirty looks from those kauffirs. Also, they always "want to go out" i would prefer staying at home, them coming round or going to their's to watch a dvd or play some video games. I would love to go into a crowded "pub" with C4 straped to my chest, those dirty kauffirs so ignorant and thinking that their life is complete with a "quick drink" after a hard days work! I mean whats the fascination with the f**kin pub and socialising b***sh*t! ^o) Damn it, i hate it. Like my friend from uni keeps texting, "what you up to tonight?" Even though he has about £1000 of DVDs, i would just watch them really!
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Totally agree, also the cinema or gym is ok. I just hate it when my friends ask me wif i want to go the kauffir "pub", i have been 1 or 2 times when they kept asking but now i just make excuses as i really hate it so much drinking shaitons pis*; and the dirty looks from those kauffirs. Also, they always "want to go out" i would prefer staying at home, them coming round or going to their's to watch a dvd or play some video games. I would love to go into a crowded "pub" with C4 straped to my chest, those dirty kauffirs so ignorant and thinking that their life is complete with a "quick drink" after a hard days work! I mean whats the fascination with the f**kin pub and socialising b***sh*t! ^o) Damn it, i hate it. Like my friend from uni keeps texting, "what you up to tonight?" Even though he has about £1000 of DVDs, i would just watch them really!
lol sayed...wow alot of anger

I have family who aren't muslims. Kauffir? never heard of that phrase. Is it urdu? I hope it's not a swear word :eek: . I don't have hatred towards the non muslims. Majority of my dads family are. Some can be really kind and understanding whilst some can be very ignorant and blind. I think you should just explain to you're friends that to you 'socialising' is not going to the pub or the club. I'm similiar to you. I prefer sitting at home with my family and watching dvd's instead of being outside getting drunk

Not all non muslims give dirty looks. All you're doing is generalising. As for the C4 strapped to you're chest. LoL. I know you're joking but still....I don't agree with suicide bombers. Most importantly what they're doing isn't islamic.

Oh and about alcohol being shaitans pis. That made me laugh. It's the first time i've heard anyone refer to alcohol like that....although it's true

Salams

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whats a c4?
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lol sayed...wow alot of anger

I have family who aren't muslims. Kauffir? never heard of that phrase. Is it urdu? I hope it's not a swear word. I don't have hatred towards the non muslims. Majority of my dads family are. Some can be really kind and understanding whilst some can be very ignorant and blind. I think you should just explain to you're friends that to you 'socialising' is not going to the pub or the club. I'm similiar to you. I prefer sitting at home with my family and watching dvd's instead of being outside getting drunk

Not all 'kauffier's give dirty looks. All you're doing is generalising. As for the C4 strapped to you're chest. LoL. I know you're joking but still....I don't agree with suicide bombers. Most importantly what they're doing isn't islamic.

Oh and about alcohol being shaitans pis. That made me laugh. It's the first time i've heard anyone refer to alcohol like that....although it's true

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Milli

:ditto: agree

Kauffir: unbeliver.
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:ditto: agree

Kauffir: unbeliver.
oh right..sorry
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oh right..sorry
Lol don't have to apologise:p:


(Original post by rukayah)
whats a c4?

an explosive.
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lol sayed...wow alot of anger

I have family who aren't muslims. Kauffir? never heard of that phrase. Is it urdu? I hope it's not a swear word :eek: . I don't have hatred towards the non muslims. Majority of my dads family are. Some can be really kind and understanding whilst some can be very ignorant and blind. I think you should just explain to you're friends that to you 'socialising' is not going to the pub or the club. I'm similiar to you. I prefer sitting at home with my family and watching dvd's instead of being outside getting drunk

Not all non muslims give dirty looks. All you're doing is generalising. As for the C4 strapped to you're chest. LoL. I know you're joking but still....I don't agree with suicide bombers. Most importantly what they're doing isn't islamic.

Oh and about alcohol being shaitans pis. That made me laugh. It's the first time i've heard anyone refer to alcohol like that....although it's true

Salams

Milli
Hey w/salaam. I was abit OTT. And YES there are some kind non-muslims but unfortunately not many these days with western media distorting Islam and Islamophobia etc. I do think suicide bombing is terrible but i think in the case of Palestine, necessary as they have to do what they have to do there. But here its not necessary, but then again probably western intelligence organisations coaxing cells to carry such actions to strength their preception of removing Islam!

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(Original post by sayed_samed)
Hey w/salaam. I was abit OTT. And YES there are some kind non-muslims but unfortunately not many these days with western media distorting Islam and Islamophobia etc. I do think suicide bombing is terrible but i think in the case of Palestine, necessary as they have to do what they have to do there. But here its not necessary, but then again probably western intelligence organisations coaxing cells to carry such actions to strength their preception of removing Islam!

^o)
yeah i know what you're saying. It's probably true. Anything is possible. As for palestine...well living under such circumstances, killing to protect you're family, yourself and you're religion isn't wrong...... but even in such situations strapping yourself with a C4 isn't right. It's suicide and no matter how right you are and no matter how bad the situation is, suicide is forbidden in islam. You can't go about making you're own rules.
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Salamun Alaikum

Just watched the big fight live...Amir khan fighting Jackson Williams . I was wondering whether Khan is a muslim?
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Yes, he's Muslim.
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Salaams guys.
Just wanted your opinion on concerts and gigs.
Do you think it is okay for Muslims to attend functions such as pop/rock concerts?
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Salaams guys.
Just wanted your opinion on concerts and gigs.
Do you think it is okay for Muslims to attend functions such as pop/rock concerts?
Well, its undoubtedly haraam but it is one of my vices. In fact, last night i went to the launch gig of the coolest metal band in Sri Lanka. It was really cool, and i know that its wrong but its like one of my only vices. I am trying to give it up though... InshaAllah i will have the Taqwa in the future to break those vices.

Sayed: About 'shaitons pis*' That was really funny, i waas reading this book and this american guy going into a German bar and ordering wheat beer and then calling it 'piss water'! I burst out laughing that time!

Milli and the rest: Yes i also agree that staying home/ hotel coffeeshops and cafes are way more my type of thing than a club/ pub scene.

Oh and Kaafir is literally anyone who 'covers up' ie its extended to mean 'to reject'. So we refer to non-believers as kaafir as they reject Islam. The same way a muslim can be called kaafir towards alcohol if he doesn't drink. So the word in the Qur'an is not a negative word and doesn't mean 'infidel' or anything like that. Instead its used in a neutral way, i think to symbolise that our dealings with 'kaafirs/ non-believers' should also be civil and neutral without ungainly prejudice.
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whats a c4?
Its an explosive of Carbon derivative or potassium chloride (Anarchists Cookbook taught me some stuff!) i think. Normally in putty form so as to be stable, then you use a detonator to set it off. Yeah i was known as the terrorist of my Chemistry class (partly inherited from being heavily bearded [sadly not there anymore] at the time and a vehement muslim).... I so wanted to make trinitro toluene! Thats chem name for TNT btw.....
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Salaams, here's a bit of info on the word 'Kaafir', its origination and uses with Qur'aanic verses to back up the notion. Don't know if you already know this but have a read anyway. Its by Prof. Jamal Badawi so its pretty legit.

4. Why does the Qur’an refer to Jews and Christians as kuffar or infidels? What kind of respect and tolerance is that?

Answer: Again, here is a big mistake with translation, one that is sometimes committed by Muslims, too. If you look at the English dictionary meaning of infidel, it means someone who does not have a faith or does not believe in Allah. Does the Qur’an say that the Jews and Christians do not believe in Allah? No. Surah 29, Al-`Ankabut, verse 46, says that the God of Christians, Jews, and Muslims is one and the same. The word infidel is an inaccurate translation of the word kafir in this case.
The term kafir, referring to a person, or kufr, referring to an act, is used in the Qur’an in a variety of contextual meanings. This is why I hesitate to use even the terms non-believer or disbeliever for the translation, as is it is not clear from these English terms what is the object of unbelief or disbelief: God? a particular prophet? others? I would prefer the term non-Muslim, as it applies to various categories of kufr, whether it refers to knowingly rejecting the message of Islam (disbelief) or being a non-Muslim due to the lack of awareness of the authentic message of Islam (unbelief). Following are examples of the varied contextual uses of the term kufr in the Qur’an:
• • Kufr is sometimes used in a positive sense. A good believer can also be a kafir. How? The Qur’an says “Faman yakfur bil taghoout wayu’mim billah.” (whoever rejects taghut and believes in Allah) (Al-Baqarah 2:56). Anyone who believes in one thing is a kafir (rejecter) of its opposite.
• Kufr can be used in a neutral or benign sense, as the origin of kufr in the Arabic language means “to cover up.” So the farmer who is putting a seed in the ground and covering it up is performing kufr. Spiritually, deliberate deviation from the true and authentic prophets is a form of “cover-up” of truth.
• The word kufr can also be applied to a Muslim when he is doing something wrong, but not necessarily something that would place him or her outside the state of belief in Islam. For example, a Muslim who is able to go for Hajj but does not go, without denying the need to go, would be committing an act of kufr in a sense of ungratefulness to Allah (3:96-97).
• Kufr is used in Qur’an as the opposite of shukr, “to be grateful” (31:12).
• Kafir is used in the Qur’an, not only to refer to Jews or Christians, but also those who rejected the prophets and denied the existence of God. It has been used to refer to the people of Noah and the people of Abraham. It has also been used to refer to those who denied prophethood and rejected the existence of Allah altogether, which obviously is not the case with Christians and Jews.
• It can be used in a more serious sense, but with a variety of meanings. It refers to the rejection of Islam. It describes one who knows the truth, but rejects it out of pride or vanity. This is someone who knows the truth in his or her heart and deliberately rejects it. Nonetheless, we cannot assess this. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) gave Muslims very clear instructions after one incident when people assumed to know why someone professed belief in Islam. He asked them whether they had opened up his heart, did they know whether what was in his heart was sincere. The bottom line is that we have to leave it to Allah; only Allah knows the sincerity of a particular person’s acceptance. Allah is All-Knowing, and He is the only Judge of all of us.
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salams girls and boys....how's you're day?


(Original post by Dimez)
Yes, he's Muslim.
Mashallah he fights pretty well for his age.

(Original post by Zahra7fold)
Salaams guys.
Just wanted your opinion on concerts and gigs.
Do you think it is okay for Muslims to attend functions such as pop/rock concerts?
i don't really think so. Maybe because there's music and it's a mixed environment. Plus most people dance in these sort of places :p:

(Original post by rashid1988)

Oh and Kaafir is literally anyone who 'covers up' ie its extended to mean 'to reject'. So we refer to non-believers as kaafir as they reject Islam. The same way a muslim can be called kaafir towards alcohol if he doesn't drink. So the word in the Qur'an is not a negative word and doesn't mean 'infidel' or anything like that. Instead its used in a neutral way, i think to symbolise that our dealings with 'kaafirs/ non-believers' should also be civil and neutral without ungainly prejudice.
Oh right, now i understand. I thought it was some sort of swear word Sayed was using when referring to non muslims
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salams girls and boys....how's you're day?
Wa Alaikumus Salaam! My day was ok... how was yours? What're you upto?
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