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Benh842
And then it's gone forever! OH NO!

Take a second and think how moronic that statement was.


I know water is recycled, i'm talking about drinking water being readily available, that people without acess to water need.
xXxSophieLouxXx
I know water is recycled, i'm talking about drinking water being readily available, that people without acess to water need.

how many people in britain lose out on a water supply because of animals? The water that people cannot access is in third world countries, we cannot personally get that water for them. They need money pumped into their economy to get the technology to get the water, it is nothing to do with the animals drinking it!
thebassking
instead it would be bred for its milk :p:

I have nothing against milking cows, and if a farmer wanted cows for milk, the farmer wouldn't kill it and neither would any other animal, as they would be kept safe so as not to lose the him/herself money.
xXxSophieLouxXx
I have nothing against milking cows, and if a farmer wanted cows for milk, the farmer wouldn't kill it and neither would any other animal, as they would be kept safe so as not to lose the him/herself money.

i hate to burst your bubble but when a milking cow is no longer viable, money wise, to keep (e.g. it doesnt calve in a certain year and so will not produce much milk) it will be put down!
Reply 84
I like vegetarians.

More meat for me.
to be honest creating artificial environments to for example farm chickens in pens isnt really natural or aiding there evolution...i mean if we hunted everything we ate then maybe..anyway i dont eat meat for the most stupid reason EVER!!...simply the chicken was to dry..so the logical solution..dont eat meat anymore... OF COURSE!! my brain works in mysterious ways..i do eat seafood tho!!
thebassking
i hate to burst your bubble but when a milking cow is no longer viable, money wise, to keep (e.g. it doesnt calve in a certain year and so will not produce much milk) it will be put down!


If the country suddenly went vegetarian because they didn't want animals to die, then I doubt they would carry on getting slaughtered as soon as they aren't any use - consumer pressure wouldn't allow it.
callum9999
If the country suddenly went vegetarian because they didn't want animals to die, then I doubt they would carry on getting slaughtered as soon as they aren't any use - consumer pressure wouldn't allow it.

instead they could die in a long and painful demise as disease and infection kills them!
thebassking
instead they could die in a long and painful demise as disease and infection kills them!


Well no they wouldn't, just like we don't slaughter pets but they don't die a long and painful demise - thats what vets are for...
Reply 89
ONEMORETRY
you're an idiot.
people have the right to choose if they want to be vegetarian.
I am because I don't believe in eating anything I couldn't kill myself with my own two hands.
I hate meat eaters who don't have the courage to kill the animals they eat themeselves.



So you hate 90% of the worlds population then? Thats nice.

This is why nobody likes or trusts vegetarians.
stevie0444
So you hate 90% of the worlds population then? Thats nice.

This is why nobody likes or trusts vegetarians.


No its not. No-ones ever disliked or distrusted my vegetarianism (only questions from idiots like "why eat fake meat if you don't want to eat animals?" :rolleyes:).
Vegetarianism is such a pointless concept.
callum9999
Well no they wouldn't, just like we don't slaughter pets but they don't die a long and painful demise - thats what vets are for...


that is a ridiculous answer....do you understand how much vets cost...for farmers to pay for vaccinations and looknig after the cows when they aren't producing anything would make their costs skyrocket....then we'd see where consumer pressure goes when the price of milk and dairy products quadruples
Solid_Snake_100
that is a ridiculous answer....do you understand how much vets cost...for farmers to pay for vaccinations and looknig after the cows when they aren't producing anything would make their costs skyrocket....then we'd see where consumer pressure goes when the price of milk and dairy products quadruples


Would the cows need vaccinations and looking after? If they get ill put them down.

If you were going to treat the cow like that then arguably you should be doing it for other animals in the wild.
callum9999
Would the cows need vaccinations and looking after? If they get ill put them down.

If you were going to treat the cow like that then arguably you should be doing it for other animals in the wild.


not really - cows are bred in an artificial envirnoment - grazing land - they have vey little impact on the ecosystem, other animals do.
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stevie0444
So you hate 90% of the worlds population then? Thats nice.

This is why nobody likes or trusts vegetarians.



It is rather illogical to do that especially in the UK where only butchers are allowed to slaughter animals and those too in specialised conditions , however people who act weak-willed when any animal suffering is shown and yet still eat meat really get on my wick. Slaughtering animals for food is no less crueller than skinning an animal live for fur but only one actually seemes to warrant a response from the majority of the population.
xXxSophieLouxXx
I'm a veggie, and i'm really healthy in comparision to my family who eat meat. They all say to me they'd consider giving it up to get a figure like mine.


Your figure and you not eating meat have nothing to do with each other and doesn't mean your healthy. You can get a great figure and eat meat. It depends on your genetics, the balance in your diet and how much exercise you do.
Reply 97
edanon
I know you're trolling, but i'd just like to take the time to destroy your post:



Herbivors are natural.... animals have naturally not eaten meat for thousands of years. Whatever we do is natural. We have naturally evolved to not need to eat meat to survive.



Evolution doesn't have a plan. Whatever happens IS it's development. Vegetarians are a part of it.



Whats wrong with everything surviving? Survival of the fittest is a result not a requirement.


If everything survives, natural selection doesn't take place; by being vegetarian you basically take away some of the selection pressures that bring about natural selection.

And no survival of the fittest isn't a result not a requirement, it's simply another way of wording natural selection; the animals with the characteristics which enable them to survive under certain selection pressures are the "fittest" with regards to that particular environment.
Benh842
As much as I enjoy circular arguments...

And by that logic, global warming, plastic surgery and abortion aren't negative.

Better argument, please.


abortion and plastic surgery aren't negative.
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Captain Skids
It's 'herd mentality'. How could it possibly be okay to cause so much suffering for a moments pleasure? Logic has been abandoned.QUOTE]

That's exactly how i feel, people only eat it to begin with, as that's all they've ever known.

I can feel better about myself knowing that eating, something which i do everyday won't have a harmful effect on any other creature.

I believe that if you truly think that eating meat it totally the right thing to do, that people should kill their own food.


I hate to burst your bubble but it does. Fruits, veg, grain, etc is grown on farms in which pesticide is used, even if it is organic these chemicals are still used. Now these pesticides kill smaller creatures. Why do you place a greater importance on the life on creatures used in meat production than those killed by the pesticides used on the crops you eat?

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