ICT vs Computing?

Original post by Ella.parfitt

What is the difference between. Computering and ict

Computering (Facepalm)

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Captainmmn

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When i chose computing as an option ,I thought we';d start of the subject straight away but my teacher made it so its computer/it ,so you get to choose which one you want to start in yr 10. .At first i was bummed but then when we did some computing the coding was really hard and i realised if i chose computing I'd probably get a D but if i chose IT I'd likely get an A .

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In my opinion: computing AND ict is useful in different ways in the future. For example, computing can make you become good at coding which can lead for you to be maybe a programmer, game designer and etc... And ict can make you become good at using your computer which can lead for you to get most likely a good job that involves for you to work with computers and complicated technology!

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Original post by jordan12

Computing involves a lot of maths, and unlike ICT, you will actually be expected to learn how to use a number of programming languages. Topics include things such as Networking, Hardware and Operating Systems.

a bit off-topic really, but where exactly even is the Maths? It's not that I am doing Computing A-Level currently. Instead, I'm at uni, finished 2nd yr of Maths degree, and am currently self-teaching Python after having done SQL :smile:

. So, is it like after you have experience in Python of say like a solid yr or two, then you can step into the more technical and more Mathsy side Python? Or do you mean other languages? I THINK Ruby programming language is quite Mathsy, and R programming language too for the Stats side. I am actually going to be even learning some (hopefully) of R programming in a 3rd yr module of my degree, but who knows how much they'll cram into t despite the time constraints and the presumably big size of the R language.

Thanks!

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Original post by krisshP

a bit off-topic really, but where exactly even is the Maths? It's not that I am doing Computing A-Level currently. Instead, I'm at uni, finished 2nd yr of Maths degree, and am currently self-teaching Python after having done SQL :smile:

. So, is it like after you have experience in Python of say like a solid yr or two, then you can step into the more technical and more Mathsy side Python? Or do you mean other languages? I THINK Ruby programming language is quite Mathsy, and R programming language too for the Stats side. I am actually going to be even learning some (hopefully) of R programming in a 3rd yr module of my degree, but who knows how much they'll cram into t despite the time constraints and the presumably big size of the R language.

Thanks!

Computer Science is heavily dependant on Maths and you won't get very far without it. Computer Science is a SCIENCE, so naturally maths comes into it. Various kinds of Mathematics comes into it such as probability, statistics and logic etc. Different sections of Computer Science depend on different levels of Maths. For example, cryptography and advanced algorithms require a decent amount of discrete and complexity theory Mathematics.

Programming requires some levels of Maths but not much. Again, it depends on what field you work in. Most jobs don't require Maths but if you're good at it then you will certainly have an edge over your peers. For things like Python, Maths is hardly required. It comes more into 3D modelling with geometry is essential :smile:

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Original post by iHammmy

Computer Science is heavily dependant on Maths and you won't get very far without it. Computer Science is a SCIENCE, so naturally maths comes into it. Various kinds of Mathematics comes into it such as probability, statistics and logic etc. Different sections of Computer Science depend on different levels of Maths. For example, cryptography and advanced algorithms require a decent amount of discrete and complexity theory Mathematics.

Programming requires some levels of Maths but not much. Again, it depends on what field you work in. Most jobs don't require Maths but if you're good at it then you will certainly have an edge over your peers. For things like Python, Maths is hardly required. It comes more into 3D modelling with geometry is essential :smile:

hmmm, OK thanks for that! I'm currently on a Maths degree, 2nd yr done, so yes Maths is my interest, especially the Probability & Stats side. Looking to learn IT Packages to become a Data Analyst/Data Scientist/Statistician in future. Done with SQL, and now on Python, and shall try to squeeze in Excel VBA in this summer too if possible. Any tips? You seem to be quite clever here :tongue:

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Thanks!

EDIT: I'm just after a Mathsy job actually! :tongue:

, just trying to grasp hold of some IT Packages this summer to help for my applications to job I'll be chasing throughout my 3rd yr of uni.

Oh and yes, I even took some Discrete Maths module in my degree, 2nd yr, but tbh algorithms and working with them honestly just isn't my interest at all really :frown:

I'm afraid. I'm more inclined towards the Stats kind of side of Maths. As such, I've even picked up as many Stats-related modules as possible in my 3rd yr of uni. One of the modules, Linear Models and Regression Analysis, mentions that I'll learn how to use R programming to analyse linear models. I've heard that R programming is very handy, so that's nice :smile:

, just hope we can cover through R programming is as much depth as possible, but this module itself is being taught for the first time at my uni actually, so who knows...

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Original post by krisshP

hmmm, OK thanks for that! I'm currently on a Maths degree, 2nd yr done, so yes Maths is my interest, especially the Probability & Stats side. Looking to learn IT Packages to become a Data Analyst/Data Scientist/Statistician in future. Done with SQL, and now on Python, and shall try to squeeze in Excel VBA in this summer too if possible. Any tips? You seem to be quite clever here :tongue:

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Thanks!

EDIT: I'm just after a Mathsy job actually! :tongue:

, just trying to grasp hold of some IT Packages this summer to help for my applications to job I'll be chasing throughout my 3rd yr of uni.

Oh and yes, I even took some Discrete Maths module in my degree, 2nd yr, but tbh algorithms and working with them honestly just isn't my interest at all really :frown:

I'm afraid. I'm more inclined towards the Stats kind of side of Maths. As such, I've even picked up as many Stats-related modules as possible in my 3rd yr of uni. One of the modules, Linear Models and Regression Analysis, mentions that I'll learn how to use R programming to analyse linear models. I've heard that R programming is very handy, so that's nice :smile:

, just hope we can cover through R programming is as much depth as possible, but this module itself is being taught for the first time at my uni actually, so who knows...

No worries, good luck with R :smile:

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Original post by iHammmy

No worries, good luck with R :smile:

how big's R? Like it seems as if Python is 3x bigger than SQL to study through. But, of course, proper learning of any IT Package is through long-term application, just like if u learn any other language, like say Spanish...

EDIT: What IT Packages are useful for Stats kind of roles? I so far know of R as a BIG one, Ruby I've just heard of and lastly Python which I'm already studying (currently on Generators after having looked at Lambdas).

Also, just out of curiosity, what IT Packages would you need in order to be able to make your own apps for Android phones?

THANKS!

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Original post by krisshP

how big's R? Like it seems as if Python is 3x bigger than SQL to study through. But, of course, proper learning of any IT Package is through long-term application, just like if u learn any other language, like say Spanish...

EDIT: What IT Packages are useful for Stats kind of roles? I so far know of R as a BIG one, Ruby I've just heard of and lastly Python which I'm already studying (currently on Generators after having looked at Lambdas).

Also, just out of curiosity, what IT Packages would you need in order to be able to make your own apps for Android phones?

THANKS!

R is great for statistical computing. It's used a lot in data science just like Python. IIRC most physics uni courses have a Python module. I've never used R, but this could be a good place to start if you want to learn more about R packages.

I'm pretty sure Android apps are written in Java, and the Android Development Studio is a good IDE to use :smile:

. I've heard that this is a good documentation about Android development.

Good luck and just reply if you want more info :smile:

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Original post by iHammmy

R is great for statistical computing. It's used a lot in data science just like Python. IIRC most physics uni courses have a Python module. I've never used R, but this could be a good place to start if you want to learn more about R packages.

I'm pretty sure Android apps are written in Java, and the Android Development Studio is a good IDE to use :smile:

. I've heard that this is a good documentation about Android development.

Good luck and just reply if you want more info :smile:

But didn't you say Python wasn't so Mathsy??? I presume that it's not so much useful for Statistical Analysis on its own, but with the use of some 3rd party modules/libraries out there, it becomes pretty damn useful, right?

Programming seems quite cool for me, but I seem to actually prefer the application of the language you study, like how in my Python course, I made a simple basic calculator along with (more recently) a Text Analyzer that basically gives you the % occupied by each a-z character in a given .txt file :smile:

. Would you say that to construct more complicated programmes, it must take years worth of Python experience or more/less? :smile:

EDIT: I think I really should've taken Comp Sci @ A-level tbh back in my A-level days, I reckon I would've liked it :biggrin:

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