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Reply 3040
likewinethroughwater
Just an interview question that I don't really know how to answer: " How would your studying PPE at Oxford be valuable to Oxford and to society"


Valuable to Oxford = I pay more, international fees!!

I understand it means nothing to them btw, as donations are always big so one more intl student means 0. I actually have no answer for that as once I graduate I leave, I'm not valuable to them!?
How can you answer the first part? Without a joke? The society part is piss, it really is.

I just realised I bring a different way of looking at things, being Jamaican and I love physics so I have that background also. So for debates I guess I'm quite useful, saying that I love debates as well, so I bring that :smile:
Leviathon
Is that a likely question? Urmm, it's a tough one to answer without sounding arrogant. The to society bit is easy enough, just say how important it is to have people who understand politics, philsophy and economics in society to keep it running, and to further it. Just add the meat to that. Valuable to oxford though I'm not sure, something about working well with other people and being interested in debate and contributing ideas? I'd love to hear what some other people say though.


I don't think that those kind of questions will be asked or, if they are, be very important since nearly everybody answers them in roughly the same way. I would say exactly the same as you did and maybe blather on a bit more about teamwork etc
Leviathon
Is that a likely question? Urmm, it's a tough one to answer without sounding arrogant. The to society bit is easy enough, just say how important it is to have people who understand politics, philsophy and economics in society to keep it running, and to further it. Just add the meat to that. Valuable to oxford though I'm not sure, something about working well with other people and being interested in debate and contributing ideas? I'd love to hear what some other people say though.



I ask that because it was one of the mock questions that came up diuring a mock interview I had agees ago and I didnt know how to answer it then..I was like "Er..." because of the arrogance thing. But what you wrote was more or less what I said.

p.s: Have you read Hobbes' 'Leviathan' ?
someone was asked for PPE to draw the graph of modx+mody=1... i really couldn't have done this, i asked my maths teacher and he said that it would never be asked on my AS or even my A2 course (i didn't persue it)...i have an A in AS maths (no Further maths though) and wouldn't have thought of it as a weak subject for me, but this worries me alot. It was also someone who was at interview at the same college i'm going to. Quite stressed! Do you generally all see this question and think 'oh yes well of course it's ...' or are you more of the same position as me i.e. really not knowing the right answer?
Comments much appreciated, thanks.
likewinethroughwater
I ask that because it was one of the mock questions that came up diuring a mock interview I had agees ago and I didnt know how to answer it then..I was like "Er..." because of the arrogance thing. But what you wrote was more or less what I said.

p.s: Have you read Hobbes' 'Leviathan' ?


:biggrin: No, but I know the gist of what he said in it, that's not where my name comes from though.
rosa.s.
someone was asked for PPE to draw the graph of modx+mody=1... i really couldn't have done this, i asked my maths teacher and he said that it would never be asked on my AS or even my A2 course (i didn't persue it)...i have an A in AS maths (no Further maths though) and wouldn't have thought of it as a weak subject for me, but this worries me alot. It was also someone who was at interview at the same college i'm going to. Quite stressed! Do you generally all see this question and think 'oh yes well of course it's ...' or are you more of the same position as me i.e. really not knowing the right answer?
Comments much appreciated, thanks.


TBH, I'd just say " I don't know" - obviously in a manner which suggests that I actually want to find out.

"Wisest is she who knows she does not know"
Reply 3046
rosa.s could it be y= -|x| line shifted up one ish? Dunno if that was explained well, the first point going from right to left would be (0,1) then (-1,2) and (-2,3) just progressing like y= -|x| but only for positive values of y and negative x as in it'd be within the 2nd quadrant. I feel very wrong in that but it's what I would try, then I'd say I'm not sure but that's an educated guess...
If what I wrote makes no sense I could try re-explaining. I got |y|= -|x|+1
dewinte
rosa.s could it be y= -|x| line shifted up one ish? Dunno if that was explained well, the first point going from right to left would be (0,1) then (-1,2) and (-2,3) just progressing like y= -|x| but only for positive values of y and negative x as in it'd be within the 2nd quadrant. I feel very wrong in that but it's what I would try, then I'd say I'm not sure but that's an educated guess...
If what I wrote makes no sense I could try re-explaining. I got |y|= -|x|+1



you don't do modulus until c3 (edexcel) in the second year of maths alevel. and even then only with one unknown being modulus, not two. but if you understand what modulus is it's pretty easy to work out. it jumps out at me that that one will be a diamond, without too much thinking. but it's not about that. if you can do it after they explain to you what modulus means, it'll be more impressive
Mmm.. apparently another question went something along the lines of: how would you draw a line length root two?
I would have never worked out that it was a right angled triangle pythagoras thing under pressure. I mean it's not hard but.. it's a bit like well, I can tell you how inflation works will that do?
dewinte
rosa.s could it be y= -|x| line shifted up one ish? Dunno if that was explained well, the first point going from right to left would be (0,1) then (-1,2) and (-2,3) just progressing like y= -|x| but only for positive values of y and negative x as in it'd be within the 2nd quadrant. I feel very wrong in that but it's what I would try, then I'd say I'm not sure but that's an educated guess...
If what I wrote makes no sense I could try re-explaining. I got |y|= -|x|+1


Thanks very much for that- i had tried making some educated guesses myself, but that's given them alot more clarity (and even is the same as one of my, erhum, 'numerous' to put it mildly, attempts!)
Reply 3050
rosa.s.
Thanks very much for that- i had tried making some educated guesses myself, but that's given them alot more clarity (and even is the same as one of my, erhum, 'numerous' to put it mildly, attempts!)


It seems jacobwilliamson knows, he said its a diamond!! How odd... Seems an educated guess doesn't work then maybe with explanation I'd get it... I though mod means any value you put in the | | is positive? Leading to my interpretation with |y| all positive and -|x| all negative then shifted up one... Jacobwilliamson can you help please and explain? I know this isn't a maths forum but one more post can't hurt. I am so :confused:
Reply 3051
Metamorphosis_S
Mmm.. apparently another question went something along the lines of: how would you draw a line length root two?
I would have never worked out that it was a right angled triangle pythagoras thing under pressure. I mean it's not hard but.. it's a bit like well, I can tell you how inflation works will that do?


I liked that one, pressure is a bitch tbh. I got there but I'd have been floundering for a bit, happy I didn't read the rest of the message till I saw the light :smile:. I'll stop posting here for a bit, I'm clogging it with my boredom/worry/exitement!!
dewinte
It seems jacobwilliamson knows, he said its a diamond!! How odd... Seems an educated guess doesn't work then maybe with explanation I'd get it... I though mod means any value you put in the | | is positive? Leading to my interpretation with |y| all positive and -|x| all negative then shifted up one... Jacobwilliamson can you help please and explain? I know this isn't a maths forum but one more post can't hurt. I am so :confused:


thank you all so much for not telling me 'really- you got an interview not knowing these basics...that's like gcse'! it's made me feel a lot better; and also given me more ideas about how to approach a question. sorry about the maths forumy nature of the question though, i realise that's a bit off topic.
God I am not looking forward to the economics interview; its my favourite of the three subjects but there is no room to blag when it comes to the technical stuff. If I get in a tricky spot in the others I can always digress or bring up an interesting quote from a book I read, but am helpless if faced with a question like that.

I am pretty competent at maths but I might have got stuck on that one. I will have rearranged it to
:

[y] = 1 - [x] and can scetch

and the answer I got is:

1\ /\ /
0_\/_\/__

Anyone know if its right?
dewinte
I liked that one, pressure is a bitch tbh. I got there but I'd have been floundering for a bit, happy I didn't read the rest of the message till I saw the light :smile:. I'll stop posting here for a bit, I'm clogging it with my boredom/worry/exitement!!

:biggrin: I've been spamming up the chat thread for weeks now, so don't feel alone in your frenzied posting.
Wow it's really odd to think that we're competing for a place? I don't feel at all aggressive toward you, in fact I hope you do well!
Your interpretation of mody+modx=1 is what I would have done as well.
Not sure where the diamond comes in? It looks like a fairly simple translation, just just up by one then reflected in the err.. y axis since all your doing is:

mod y = mod x
then f(y) = f(-x) + 1.

No?
Which I realise is basically what you said, just trying to clear it up in my own head really :s-smilie:.
I haven't done maths since GCSE - 4 years ago now. I have a suspicion that that's going to come back to haunt me a tad.
lazzarus
God I am not looking forward to the economics interview; its my favourite of the three subjects but there is no room to blag when it comes to the technical stuff. If I get in a tricky spot in the others I can always digress or bring up an interesting quote from a book I read, but am helpless if faced with a question like that.

I am pretty competent at maths but I might have got stuck on that one. I will have rearranged it to:

[y] = 1 - [x] and can scetch

and the answer I got is:

1\ /\ /
0_\/_\/__

Anyone know if its right?



that doesnt come out right, should look like a big W
Reply 3057
Metamorphosis_S
Mmm.. apparently another question went something along the lines of: how would you draw a line length root two?
I would have never worked out that it was a right angled triangle pythagoras thing under pressure. I mean it's not hard but.. it's a bit like well, I can tell you how inflation works will that do?


haha thats genius...
"Can you tell me the solution to this equation"

"No, but I was reading this really interesting book on Socialism recently, and it suggests that..."

:smile:
lazzarus
God I am not looking forward to the economics interview; its my favourite of the three subjects but there is no room to blag when it comes to the technical stuff. If I get in a tricky spot in the others I can always digress or bring up an interesting quote from a book I read, but am helpless if faced with a question like that.


Yeah, I enjoy reading about economics the most, too, since it explains so much stuff you hear about in the news and etc. "Ahh, so this is how inflation works" "Now I understand what that Keynes fellow was on about" but if I were asked to explain concepts or deduce new ones from those my mind would just go blank. :s-smilie:
I am praying that I am not asked a proper math question or else I'm screwed. :yep:
Reply 3059
Metamorphosis_S
:biggrin: I've been spamming up the chat thread for weeks now, so don't feel alone in your frenzied posting.
Wow it's really odd to think that we're competing for a place? I don't feel at all aggressive toward you, in fact I hope you do well!
Your interpretation of mody+modx=1 is what I would have done as well.
Not sure where the diamond comes in? It looks like a fairly simple translation, just just up by one then reflected in the err.. y axis since all your doing is:

mod y = mod x
then f(y) = f(-x) + 1.

No?
Which I realise is basically what you said, just trying to clear it up in my own head really :s-smilie:.


Methinks that's pretty much what I said ish, here it is incase though.
\......|
.\.....|
..\....|
...\...|
....\..|
.....\.|
......\|<---(0,1)
.......|
---------------
.......|
.......|

Hope that is kind of clear...

Also meta, I know what you mean about not feeling the competitiveness so strange, I guess it's because we all want it and we know that others do just as much :smile:. At least I'll be seeing ya there, maybe we'll get aggressive lol.

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