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Oxford PPE (Philosophy, Politics and Economics) Students and Applicants

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cj_90
Hi,
does Cambridge ask for certain UMS scores as part of a conditional offer (for Natural sciences)? I'm studying in Germany and trying to compare my offer with the typical UK offer requirements.


Yes, people at my school has this last year.
Buffyboy
Hmmm been doing a bit of personal statement researching, I want to read and thus discuss a book that is slightly more unusual... I'm afraid any PPE tutors would be very bored trawling through another;

"I read On Liberty, Utilitarianism and Utilitarianism For and Against, the books provided powerful arguments for liberty. Jonathan Wolfs An Introduction to Political Philosophy provided a powerful example…"

Anyone got any more unusual PPE relevant books they can recommend?
 


Paradise and Power - Robert Kagan
- very readable book on international relations which discusses whether the new European outlook on international affairs is only possible because of the US's willingness to step into problem zones.
MANU90
Cambridge don't do work experience. I really don't thinink it would have made any difference to my application. Apply to do the senior physics challenge... http://www-spc.phy.cam.ac.uk/ that might give you an edge, and it's a great course!


So really, all you need to get in is excellent grades (I'm pretty I can get that) and a decent interview?

If so, I'd be a very happy person.
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Liquid27
So really, all you need to get in is excellent grades (I'm pretty I can get that) and a decent interview?

If so, I'd be a very happy person.


Erm yehp! or....good enough grades to get an interview then... Show how much you love the subject my writing a good PS and getting a teacher who has obviously seen your passion for the subject in lessons to write your reference. Then show them how good you are at your subject at interview. SUBJECT SUBJECT SUBJECT.
Buffyboy
Hmmm been doing a bit of personal statement researching, I want to read and thus discuss a book that is slightly more unusual... I'm afraid any PPE tutors would be very bored trawling through another;

"I read On Liberty, Utilitarianism and Utilitarianism For and Against, the books provided powerful arguments for liberty. Jonathan Wolfs An Introduction to Political Philosophy provided a powerful example…"

Anyone got any more unusual PPE relevant books they can recommend?
 


Supposedly, tutors want to see how you respond to concepts that you've never thought about before. Just read anything that interests you, chances are the tutors won't want to talk about it with you anyway, especially if it's something obscure.
Track has been updated, Firm and Insurance have been chosen.

Grades permitting, I'll see you all in September :cool:

*runs off to continue cramming for A2 Biology*
Hi i'm new to the website, thought id join because i'll be looking to apply for universities soon.

I'm a student in Year 12 and i would like to do PPE in Oxford when i go to uni. I'm currently doing 5 AS's (English Lit, History, Maths Statistics, French and Spanish), which i'm relatively pleased about thus far. I had good grades at GCSE level (7 a*'s and 5 a's) and i am pretty confident that i could acheive the grades i need to get into Oxford at AS and A2 levels, providing i work hard enough.

However what im worried about regarding applying to do PPE at Oxford is the fact that i believe i do nowhere near enough reading around Politics, Philosophy and Economics in my spare time, and i think that there will be many other applicants who know much more about them than me. This is the only thing that worries me about applying for Oxford, and as a result i'm not very confident of my chances of success if i do apply later this year. Does anyone have any advice for me at all? It would be greatly appreciated :smile:
gruffowen92
Hi i'm new to the website, thought id join because i'll be looking to apply for universities soon.

I'm a student in Year 12 and i would like to do PPE in Oxford when i go to uni. I'm currently doing 5 AS's (English Lit, History, Maths Statistics, French and Spanish), which i'm relatively pleased about thus far. I had good grades at GCSE level (7 a*'s and 5 a's) and i am pretty confident that i could acheive the grades i need to get into Oxford at AS and A2 levels, providing i work hard enough.

However what im worried about regarding applying to do PPE at Oxford is the fact that i believe i do nowhere near enough reading around Politics, Philosophy and Economics in my spare time, and i think that there will be many other applicants who know much more about them than me. This is the only thing that worries me about applying for Oxford, and as a result i'm not very confident of my chances of success if i do apply later this year. Does anyone have any advice for me at all? It would be greatly appreciated :smile:


Firstly, welcome!

Secondly, don't think too much about other applicants, if you think you have a shot (and your grades clearly say you do) then go for it! You have a stupid amount of time yet until you have to apply, so if your worried about reading then you can make a nice early start on it. There have been lists of books come up on this thread hundreds of times, if you just search 'books for PPE' in the search bar, you should get a relatively comprehensive list.

Don't get too bogged down by it, though. The tutors aren't concerned with how much you know, especially if it is too far outside your A level sylabuses (sylabi...?), so I recommend finding an area of specific interest and read some stuff about it to start with. Personally, I researched the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Hope this helps! :smile:
Buffyboy
Hmmm been doing a bit of personal statement researching, I want to read and thus discuss a book that is slightly more unusual... I'm afraid any PPE tutors would be very bored trawling through another;

"I read On Liberty, Utilitarianism and Utilitarianism For and Against, the books provided powerful arguments for liberty. Jonathan Wolfs An Introduction to Political Philosophy provided a powerful example…"

Anyone got any more unusual PPE relevant books they can recommend?
 

I read a really great book recently called "Setting the people free: The story of democracy" by John Dunn which I found very powerful and I think applicants would enjoy.
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you dont have to compare actually... if you take the German Abitur its likely that your offer is harder than getting the obvious 3 As(although I know that its hard to compare the German Abitur and ALevels), as you have to get high marks in your three final exams(as students taking ALevels have to) and additionally you constantly have to get good grades over a period of 2 years to get the right average...
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Person from my school got asked to get over 95% in his maths modules last year for maths, fortunately my offer this year for engineering wasnt as specific or tough
Reply 3371
Hi, I got an offer for Natural Sciences (physical) and was wondering how natScientists found the transition from A level science to Cambridge NatSci, especially in the first term. Was the level of the work really high compared to your A level work?
gruffowen92
Hi i'm new to the website, thought id join because i'll be looking to apply for universities soon.

I'm a student in Year 12 and i would like to do PPE in Oxford when i go to uni. I'm currently doing 5 AS's (English Lit, History, Maths Statistics, French and Spanish), which i'm relatively pleased about thus far. I had good grades at GCSE level (7 a*'s and 5 a's) and i am pretty confident that i could acheive the grades i need to get into Oxford at AS and A2 levels, providing i work hard enough.

However what im worried about regarding applying to do PPE at Oxford is the fact that i believe i do nowhere near enough reading around Politics, Philosophy and Economics in my spare time, and i think that there will be many other applicants who know much more about them than me. This is the only thing that worries me about applying for Oxford, and as a result i'm not very confident of my chances of success if i do apply later this year. Does anyone have any advice for me at all? It would be greatly appreciated :smile:


Sorry if this seems too obvious but if your problem is not having read enough then just start reading.:wink: Like the PinkPenguin says you don't need to be too worried about reading a load of books and if I were you I'd just try and keep up to date with the news and get into debates with whoever you can, friends are as good as anyone for this. A tip for keeping up-to-date with current affairs: listen to BBC radio five when you can, even if it's just in the background - no reaing required.:biggrin:
London Prophet
Sounds like hearsay - certainly there's no official stance to that effect. That's not to say that certain tutors don't haver preferences towards A-level, but then again some of them have preferences for IB.

Thanks for the reply...

...but what would be the reasons for the tutors preferring A levels especially for a degree so broad such as PPE?
JXPES
Hi, I got an offer for Natural Sciences (physical) and was wondering how natScientists found the transition from A level science to Cambridge NatSci, especially in the first term. Was the level of the work really high compared to your A level work?


I've just finished my first term. I personally found the transition REALLY REALLY tough for a mixture of reasons. It's not just the level of the work really, but the quantity as well: there's a lot of work! Some advice from someone who was struggling: read over/make notes/revise your lecture notes after lectures - i didn't do this (i felt that i didn't have the time, but i regret this) and it all built up and it's really hard to catch-up once your behind. And don't be afraid/put off asking for help.
pinkpenguin
Firstly, welcome!

Secondly, don't think too much about other applicants, if you think you have a shot (and your grades clearly say you do) then go for it! You have a stupid amount of time yet until you have to apply, so if your worried about reading then you can make a nice early start on it. There have been lists of books come up on this thread hundreds of times, if you just search 'books for PPE' in the search bar, you should get a relatively comprehensive list.

Don't get too bogged down by it, though. The tutors aren't concerned with how much you know, especially if it is too far outside your A level sylabuses (sylabi...?), so I recommend finding an area of specific interest and read some stuff about it to start with. Personally, I researched the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Hope this helps! :smile:


Thanks for the advice pinkpenguin, you've re-ignited my confidence! :smile:
Graphix
Thanks for the reply...

...but what would be the reasons for the tutors preferring A levels especially for a degree so broad such as PPE?


They're not supposed to favour one over the other, but I imagine if they do, it's because they are more familiar with it.
Andy the Anarchist
They're not supposed to favour one over the other, but I imagine if they do, it's because they are more familiar with it.

Ok...but if an applicant had a good PS, previous academic record, school reference and good results on the TSA, then the course path will be irrelevant? It wouldn't stand in the way of securing an interview...
Graphix
Ok...but if an applicant had a good PS, previous academic record, school reference and good results on the TSA, then the course path will be irrelevant? It wouldn't stand in the way of securing an interview...


No, not at all (I can imagine in a few years, when the IB establishes itself, it will be much preferred over the A level, assuming it's as hard as they make out).
Andy the Anarchist
No, not at all (I can imagine in a few years, when the IB establishes itself, it will be much preferred over the A level, assuming it's as hard as they make out).

Ok, thanks very much!
It's just that there's been a lot of talk going around recently and it's making me worried...

...but you've calmed some of those anxieties :smile:

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