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Reply 3380
Just speaking from my own experience as an IB student applying for PPE this year, I didn't find it to somehow disadvantage me at all - probably the inverse if anything.

At interview, the tutors seemed fairly familiar with the course etc, and aside from unfamiliarity I can't see any real reason to disadvantage IBers. Given the increasing popularity of the course, I can't imagine there are any/many interviewers who wouldn't have a clue about it.

Some people moan about comparatively high IB offers, but imo 38-40 points is entirely reasonable.
jbowles
Just speaking from my own experience as an IB student applying for PPE this year, I didn't find it to somehow disadvantage me at all - probably the inverse if anything.

At interview, the tutors seemed fairly familiar with the course etc, and aside from unfamiliarity I can't see any real reason to disadvantage IBers. Given the increasing popularity of the course, I can't imagine there are any/many interviewers who wouldn't have a clue about it.

Some people moan about comparatively high IB offers, but imo 38-40 points is entirely reasonable.

Thanks for this also :smile:

It's just that there were some surprise rejections this year - all IB - but I guess it's other factors....most likely the TSA....
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Thanks for this also :smile:

It's just that there were some surprise rejections this year - all IB - but I guess it's other factors....most likely the TSA....


Well Oxford seem to care more about the TSA (and the HAT, BMAT, ELAT etc) as well as the interview than they do about past or predicted grades, given that most people have fairly pristine academic records to date, and are predicted top grades in the future.
Reply 3383
thanks, snow, work hard is basically the idea then?
I don't mind a lot of work lol, it's just the level I'm worried about. Any more useful tips to make life at Cambridge a little easier :P?
Reply 3384
i know this will almost certainly have been asked, but does anyone know of the success rate of PPE applicants at certain colleges (not that it matters greatly)?
Reply 3385
Magdalen this year had 30ish interviewees for 10 places for PPE. University wide the stats booklet put the success rate for PPE at 18.4% for 2007 entry.
www.ox.ac.uk/document.rm?id=350
AdSumma
i know this will almost certainly have been asked, but does anyone know of the success rate of PPE applicants at certain colleges (not that it matters greatly)?


They used to publish it but I can't find up to date stats on this anymore
Reply 3387
Having cast about a bit more the Oxford PPE pages says "Percentage of successful applications over last three years: 20.1%"...
Pikullos
Magdalen this year had 30ish interviewees for 10 places for PPE. University wide the stats booklet put the success rate for PPE at 18.4% for 2007 entry.
www.ox.ac.uk/document.rm?id=350


At Oriel we had 30ish for 8/9 places but some people got pooled.
Reply 3389
Pikullos
Magdalen this year had 30ish interviewees for 10 places for PPE. University wide the stats booklet put the success rate for PPE at 18.4% for 2007 entry.
www.ox.ac.uk/document.rm?id=350


Oh that's not too bad actually. Had expected more interviewees per places there.
What were the tutors like at Magdalen? Good accomodation? It's between there and Brasenose i think for my application next year
Reply 3390
Pikullos
Magdalen this year had 30ish interviewees for 10 places for PPE. University wide the stats booklet put the success rate for PPE at 18.4% for 2007 entry.
www.ox.ac.uk/document.rm?id=350


That's about the same as last year. However, I have heard it said that Magdalen reallocates a lot before interview.
Reply 3391
Is there anybody here who has been to the International Chemistry Olympiad and would be so kind to compare the level of difficulty of Chemistry lessons at Cambridge to the IChO?
My college dad was in the British team a few years ago, I think he may have got a gold or something in the international as well, He is widely regarded as something of a genius. yeah and he sat in on 2nd year lectures simultaneously with 1st year ones, so I assume getting to the IChO will mean you should be able to cope reasonably well with all the first year stuff.
Reply 3393
Tutors at Magdalen were lovely and the rooms in college are huge. However, in your first year you're in an accomodation block just over the river which isn't quite as amazing I hear. Check stuff out at open day, if you book far enough in advance you can spend a night at the college before the open day.
Reply 3394
Hi,
I have an unconditional for entry in October and am currently thinking about which courses to choose - so could somebody please answer the following questions:

1.) For Mat&Min part 1B, they say that Mat&Min part 1A is usually an essential prerequisite but they decide case by case. Has anybody known someone doing it in 1B who has not done it in part 1A? Would 1A Maths, Physics, Geology, Ev&Behav be probably ok do to Mat&Min in part 1B? And is there some Materials Science in the first year in Physics so I can decide then whether I would like to do it in 1B?

2.) I'm one of the idealists wanting to go into science, so I'm wondering about the third year courses that do not have a fourth year extension (i.e. where it's not possible to do the master): Is there still a master programme in Cambridge but the fees are different / its harder to get into? Or are they planned in such a way that you can do the PhD right after the BA there? Or is it necessary to change to another Uni's master/PhD-programme? Has anybody done that...?

3) If you've done theoretical Physics/Astronomy, how much have you regretted/been glad you didnt/did take CompSci in the first year? Is it easy to catch up the necessary stuff (I know some is in the Maths and Physics classes, too but I suppose more would be better/is necessary for "hardcore TP" )? What about Maths B?

Thanks :smile:!
Reply 3395
beacmd


3) If you've done theoretical Physics/Astronomy, how much have you regretted/been glad you didnt/did take CompSci in the first year? Is it easy to catch up the necessary stuff (I know some is in the Maths and Physics classes, too but I suppose more would be better/is necessary for "hardcore TP" )? What about Maths B?



I didn't do Maths B and it hasn't really made a difference. The IB Maths course only assumes Maths A knowledge and that is meant to provide most of the Maths for later years (or you are taught it in the course).

I regret not doing CompSci mainly because I didn't really enjoy Chemistry and it would probably have been more useful to learn some programming. You don't need to program for any of the TP courses. However I don't know the amount of programming required for theoretical projects in Part III. But there is almost certainly enough time between then and Part IA to learn to a suitable level.

It is also possible to do a Computing Project as a unit of further work in Part II Physics. Whilst I think it would be possible to do it just based on the C++ lectures in Part IB and Part II, many other people doing it will have done CompSci/learned it in their own time and I have decided that this term will be busy enough as it is, without learning how to program properly in a short period of time.
beacmd
Hi,1.) For Mat&Min part 1B, they say that Mat&Min part 1A is usually an essential prerequisite but they decide case by case. Has anybody known someone doing it in 1B who has not done it in part 1A? Would 1A Maths, Physics, Geology, Ev&Behav be probably ok do to Mat&Min in part 1B? And is there some Materials Science in the first year in Physics so I can decide then whether I would like to do it in 1B?I don't know anyone who's done Materials Part IB without the IA subject. There isn't any materials in Part IA Physics.

2.) I'm one of the idealists wanting to go into science, so I'm wondering about the third year courses that do not have a fourth year extension (i.e. where it's not possible to do the master)
I think for those courses you can normally go into a PhD after them but I'm not a BioNatSci. Also, that doesn't apply to HPS, which is an Arts subject pretty much so is different.

3) If you've done theoretical Physics/Astronomy, how much have you regretted/been glad you didnt/did take CompSci in the first year?
You don't need to do any computing for the TP courses. However, many of the theoretical Part III projects require some programming. I didn't do part IA Compsci but I think my natural interest has provided me with all I've needed so far (but then I'm a bit of a nerd). My girlfriend has told me that she thought doing part IA compsci was useful, but not essential.
I'm a Y11 student about to pick my A-Levels, as it stands they are:
English Literature
History
Economics
Government & Politics.

On reading about Oxford, if I work hard enough I believe i'll get the grades they require; like most people in this thread, it would truley be the dream course to study.

However, will it count against me that I won't have AS/A-Level Maths?

I was looking at the Logic question and it seems quite intense, how do first-years cope if they haven't studied the AS/A-Level maths?

At a GCSE level I'm set to get an A*.

London Prophet

1. Logic
- Example Exam questions are:
"Explain the difference between semantic and syntactic entailment in the propositional calculus" (Q6.(a) of 2005 Philosophy Prelims paper)
"Find counter-examples to '|=[[[[P->Q]->[Q^P]]->R]<->[R->¬P]]'"(Q2.(b)(i) of 2005 Philosophy Prelims Paper)


Also, how respected is Government & Politics? It seems ideal for this course, yet I'm not sure about how it's regarded to top Universities.

I'll be grateful to any advice you can offer me, I feel quite lost.

Thanks :smile:.
M'éclairer
Also, how respected is Government & Politics? It seems ideal for this course, yet I'm not sure about how it's regarded to top Universities.

I'll be grateful to any advice you can offer me, I feel quite lost.

Thanks :smile:.


Well I have an offer for history and politics, and I do G&P A level (it's even listed as a "useful" A level to take for HPol in the prospectus). It won't disadvantage you, and it will make you familiar with some of the ideas you might get in an interview, as well as forcing you to stay on top of current affairs, but other than that it doesn't make much difference. Everything covered in A level G&P gets repeated in politics prelims.
Reply 3399
beacmd

1.) For Mat&Min part 1B, they say that Mat&Min part 1A is usually an essential prerequisite but they decide case by case. Has anybody known someone doing it in 1B who has not done it in part 1A? Would 1A Maths, Physics, Geology, Ev&Behav be probably ok do to Mat&Min in part 1B? And is there some Materials Science in the first year in Physics so I can decide then whether I would like to do it in 1B?

3) If you've done theoretical Physics/Astronomy, how much have you regretted/been glad you didnt/did take CompSci in the first year? Is it easy to catch up the necessary stuff (I know some is in the Maths and Physics classes, too but I suppose more would be better/is necessary for "hardcore TP" )? What about Maths B?

Thanks :smile:!


Even if it's possible, why would you plan to take up a subject in the second year without doing any in the first? You would just make life difficult for yourself, learning a whole years worth (perhaps half if you only do one of mat/min in 2nd year) of work over the summer without any lectures or supervisions to help, it would be insane.

If you have an interest in Materials & Minerals, then I suggest you take it in 1A, you could always still go to the lectures of the subject you drop from the ones you listed (for example, geology lectures are directly before mat&min lectures in the same lecture theatre). All of my friends who took mat&min last year found it incredibly boring, just as a warning.

3) I did Maths A and am doing IB Maths, it would probably be a bit easier if I had done Maths B, but it's not much of a difference, if you like maths and did well in further maths you should go for Maths B. (You can always switch back to Maths A if its too hard).

As for computing, I don't think it's necessary to do CompSci, we get C++ lectures in 2nd year physics, and to be honest I'd rather go away and teach myself what I need to know. Anyway, 1st year compsci is all about ML, which has little relation to any other programming language.

To be honest, if you want to do "hardcore TP" then you should do the maths tripos.

Supermerp
I think for those courses you can normally go into a PhD after them but I'm not a BioNatSci. Also, that doesn't apply to HPS, which is an Arts subject pretty much so is different.


You can do 4th year HPS now, the first students to do it are this year.

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