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Reply 3440
Your teacher is talking rubbish. Yes, if you have a passion for your subject, you will be looked on more favourably. But Cambridge care most about academic ability, if you don't have it you won't get in, no matter how much passion you have, and you can be smart but with no particular passion for your subject and get in easily.

I didn't read around much, (well, maybe one book, but they basically just asked me a question to make sure I had actually read it and wasn't lying on my PS, it didn't affect my application). The only thing you need to know well is your course. Other subjects, mostly arts subjects, you would need to read up, but not sciences.
Reply 3441
I'm starting to have second thoughts about pursuing PPE, so I was wondering if you guys had any advice!

My dilemma began when I got my mock Economics GCSE back, which was only just an A. I've been very variable with it, ranging from best in the year to sub-par. I don't think it was my knowledge that was the problem, primarily exam technique, but it makes me stop and think when I consider how well I did in my sciences.

To be honest, I feel I have a greater natural interest in the social sciences such as history and world issues, but in many ways following science for medicine seems.. slightly less risky?

Should I ignore this result and simply have faith in my abilities to work hard and get the grades (after all, I'm fairly strong in English and History), or think pragmatically and opt for medicine?

This is obviously fairly relevant to my choices now as I'm thinking of A-Levels. Would I be right to swap English, History, Maths and German for English, History, Biology and Chemistry?

Any ideas? :smile:
Soloman
And another guy who had a passion for the chaos theory and made sure he spoke about it in his interview, consequently both received an offer from oxbridge.
In a NatSci interview you're not going to get much opportunity to wax lyrical about your deep-rooted love for chaos theory. Paneity is right. Read whatever you like.
Reply 3443
I think what Soloman is trying to say is with the high grades and relevant work experience would it be a good idea to read around a part of science that you love and ofcourse is related to your course.

I would agree as I thnk it's what universities want to see as long as you have the required grades aswell.
Reply 3444
so whats meant to be in Natsci interview, is it not possible to direct it to your interests?
Mrs Carrothead
My main problem is that most of them are gone. And have been since I got back. Apparently the whole world wants to do International Relations. I'm having to get my friend to gut the Magdalen library. :cool:


Ask your tutor to do the tutes out of "order".
Reply 3446
Soloman
so whats meant to be in Natsci interview, is it not possible to direct it to your interests?


Generally they'll ask you some questions and expect you to answer them, going towards your interests would involve going off on a massive tangent.
Talexe
I'm starting to have second thoughts about pursuing PPE, so I was wondering if you guys had any advice!

My dilemma began when I got my mock Economics GCSE back, which was only just an A. I've been very variable with it, ranging from best in the year to sub-par. I don't think it was my knowledge that was the problem, primarily exam technique, but it makes me stop and think when I consider how well I did in my sciences.

To be honest, I feel I have a greater natural interest in the social sciences such as history and world issues, but in many ways following science for medicine seems.. slightly less risky?

Should I ignore this result and simply have faith in my abilities to work hard and get the grades (after all, I'm fairly strong in English and History), or think pragmatically and opt for medicine?

This is obviously fairly relevant to my choices now as I'm thinking of A-Levels. Would I be right to swap English, History, Maths and German for English, History, Biology and Chemistry?

Any ideas? :smile:


If you want to be at Oxford then you need passion for your subject so don't choose something you're not that interested in because you think you're better at it. And think of this, would you want to spend the next 5+ years of your life doing a subject you don't have an interest in? Of course if you enoy the sciences as well as being good at them then you're set.:yep:
Mrs Carrothead
Okay, m'eclairer, I'll start off by saying I did exactly the same AS's you want to do, and dropped History at A Level because I figured that most offers tend to be for three grades, so why give myself the extra work (not very Oxford I know, but I was AWFULLY fond of my 24 frees a week :smile:).

I applied to Merton (dicey, yes) and was pooled and got into Oriel with an offer of three A's despite not having done maths and the extent of my maths skills being basic differentiation. I really really really hated logic, but in all honesty, there appear to be just as many people who have done maths who also didn't like it. It is rather more mathy than any of your AS's, but if you're predicted an A* at GCSE, I can't foresee there being any major problem. If you're going to hate doing AS Maths, don't do it, simple as.

On the subject of Government and Politics, my three A Levels were Economics, Eng Lit, and Politics, and I got offers from Oxford, Durham, Bath, Exeter, and York, so I wouldn't say that any of them put at a particular disadvantage. None of them, even Politics, are THAT wishy washy, and as it's related to what you want to do, and especially if you get predicted an A, it can only be a good thing (IMO at least).

Hope that helped, but most of all I'd say DON'T WORRY. It's not a foregone conclusion that you'll get in (or not) no matter which A Levels you do, and if you enjoy what you're doing, you'll find it a LOT easier to come over well at interview, which is the real clincher. So good luck!


Ah thank you! +1 Rep :biggrin:
How are you finding the course?
M'éclairer
Ah thank you! +1 Rep :biggrin:
How are you finding the course?


I'm rather enjoying it to be honest. I dropped economics after the first year (I'm in my second year now) because my maths wasn't so great, and you have to do a quantative methods paper for finals which I really didn't fancy. The first year was pretty good, especially politics, though I have to say logic was a pet hate of mine :smile:.

So far in the second year I've done Comparative Government and Ethics, and am starting International Relations and Plato's Republic. I really like the politics side, but I think the good thing about PPE finals is that you really can choose pretty much anything you like. Even if you don't tremendously enjoy the first year, don't think about giving up until you've started the units you've actually chosen to do rather than been told you're doing :biggrin: .
Reply 3450
Leviathon
If you want to be at Oxford then you need passion for your subject so don't choose something you're not that interested in because you think you're better at it. And think of this, would you want to spend the next 5+ years of your life doing a subject you don't have an interest in? Of course if you enoy the sciences as well as being good at them then you're set.:yep:


Thanks for the advice. It needs a bit of consideration!
Talexe
Thanks for the advice. It needs a bit of consideration!


As much as they tell you that the work isn't so bad, you'll quickly discover that if you hate the subject you're doing, 25 hours a week seems like a LIFETIME. Seriously, just do what you enjoy. My friend did a degree in Music at Cambridge and came out with a job in investment banking, so it's not even as if you're tied to what you do at uni.

On a point of interest, have you thought about applying for History and Politics if you're interested in social sciences? If I'd actually done some research and realised Oxford offered that, I'd have definitely applied :yep: !
I'd like to point out that History is not a "social science"
Andy the Anarchist
I'd like to point out that History is not a "social science"


Aha, my plan was thwarted! I just thought if Talexe liked Politics, and seeing that he's doing history, History and Politics sounded perfect. I'm terribly sorry to demean your subject in such a way. I, being a member of the Social Sciences Division, do realise what these social slurs can do to one :yep: .
Mrs Carrothead
Aha, my plan was thwarted! I just thought if Talexe liked Politics, and seeing that he's doing history, History and Politics sounded perfect. I'm terribly sorry to demean your subject in such a way. I, being a member of the Social Sciences Division, do realise what these social slurs can do to one :yep: .


History is awesome, and we History and Politics students consider ourselves more hardworking than the average Historian, but unlike PPEists we don't develop a superiority complex which comes from "doing PPE" :p:

That and I don't think I could face studying economics given that my interests mostly lie in IR.
My PPE study came about by my teacher asking in a way that makes you know that if you say yes then he's going to give you some kind of prize "so are you thinking of studying economics at university?" "um, yes?" "great, you can go to the IEA conference and listen to Jean Claude Trichet and other such people". It was a nice day out at least :p:.

I dropped economics, such was my dislike. I even got a congratulations e-mail from my econ tutor for scraping a 2:2 in Prelims, because he so clearly thought I was going to fail. Woo me!
Mrs Carrothead
My PPE study came about by my teacher asking in a way that makes you know that if you say yes then he's going to give you some kind of prize "so are you thinking of studying economics at university?" "um, yes?" "great, you can go to the IEA conference and listen to Jean Claude Trichet and other such people". It was a nice day out at least :p:.

I dropped economics, such was my dislike. I even got a congratulations e-mail from my econ tutor for scraping a 2:2 in Prelims, because he so clearly thought I was going to fail. Woo me!


Do your prelims count in any way toward your final grade?
Nope, thank the LORD. Us PPEists have two/three weeks of finals in third year and that's it. Nothing else. Comforting, but also oddly terrifying.
Mrs Carrothead
Nope, thank the LORD. Us PPEists have two/three weeks of finals in third year and that's it. Nothing else. Comforting, but also oddly terrifying.


Enjoy

I did vaguely contemplate PPE, but I'd have been doing it for the sake of "doing PPE at Oxford" rather than because I enjoyed the three disciplines.

Plus history is one of my main interests
I had to drop history for A Level (I like to think that my teacher forced me into it by choosing to do more Oliver Cromwell when we had already done the Civil Wars for AS, and also the Middle Ages. I asked for the Cold War, but they said no :frown:. The only thing I was looking forward to was my personal assignment on the Duke of Wellington, so I thought screw this :smile:).

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