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Oxford PPE (Philosophy, Politics and Economics) Students and Applicants

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lol_wut
read wolff's introduction to pol philosophy first and/or adam swift's book. then, if you want to read some primary texts, go for on liberty as it's proably the easiest to understand. can't say anything about marx because i've never studied him.

reading the textbooks listed by rustlessbowl (i can recommend kay and kavagnagh) will help you, but it isn't necessary. i knew **** all about us politics and very little about british politics at interview.

don't listen to this man. he's well on his way to failing his first year.
Rustlessbowl
The admissions tutors would probably ask you why, if you are so interested in Turkish politics, you applied for a degree in which Turkish Politics is only studied in one optional finals course (as far as I know). The chances are that the tutors who interview you will know very little to nothing about Turkish Politics, so using all of your time learning about it is a bit silly. These books will give you a fairly good introduction to the main areas of politics studied in the first year:

British Politics:
The State We're In by Hutton
British Politics: Continuities and Change by Kavagnah
Developments in British Politics by Dunleavy

American Politics:
American Politics and Society by McKay
Primary Colors Anonymous
Politics in the USA by Vile

French Politics:
The Government and Politics of France by Knapp & Wright

Political Theory:
Marx's Manifesto
Mill's On Liberty
Political Theory: An Introduction by Heywood
The Origins of Totalitarianism by Arendt
The Nature of Fascism by Griffin


I daresay, with the exception of the political theory italicised books, that nothing on that list will interest the examiner at interview - they've dealt with a hundred essays that quote from the above, and they probably want something a little different - I think the Turkish politics is a VERY good idea. It's AN interest, not the ONLY interest.
What is it like? Is it as broad as it sounds? Any info would be great.
You might be interested in the NatSci thread in the 'Colleges and Courses' subforum.
How about you could have a look on the Cambridge webiste on the Natural Sciences undergraduate applications section... It has a complete outline of the course your options and stuff... it's really great

But if it's an insider's insight you're looking for, go the the NatSci thread as TheUnbeliever said... :smile:
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London Prophet, you recommended me a book a while ago, I think "Robert Kagan, Paradise and Power" I Amazon'ed it but haven't got round to reading it yet...

I've been making my way through Globalisation and Its Discontents, its quite interesting but my Dad seemed to think now with the credit crisis "everything was changing" and "the old books are irrelevant", I was sceptical at best but did wonder whether it would be more suitable to read books on economics that look at the recent issues? Are there any?
Who Runs Britain...???
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The NatSci leaflet Emmanuel sent out recommended working through certain chapters of Engineering Connections by K.A. Stroud, 5th edition, before we get there..
Is it worth doing so? And if so, is it worth trying to buy (cheaply!) or will it just end up a very expensive doorstop?
Thanks a lot london prophet =)
And would you know if your admittance chances are diminished if you apply for a deferred entry?
Merk that Sike of a Mike
Thanks a lot london prophet =)
And would you know if your admittance chances are diminished if you apply for a deferred entry?


Not officially, but I expect so - if they accept you deferred you have to prove that you're not only better than most of the current applications, but better than their guestimate for next year too.
Shrub
The NatSci leaflet Emmanuel sent out recommended working through certain chapters of Engineering Connections by K.A. Stroud, 5th edition, before we get there..
Is it worth doing so? And if so, is it worth trying to buy (cheaply!) or will it just end up a very expensive doorstop?


You really want Riley, Hobson and Bence and you can get it cheaper than Amazon at the University Press when you have your uni card.

I'd borrow Stroud from a library if you can, if not, don't worry and pick up RHB when you get here.
London Prophet
Not officially, but I expect so - if they accept you deferred you have to prove that you're not only better than most of the current applications, but better than their guestimate for next year too.

OK thanks for the advice, i don't think I'll go for one...after all I can always do one after university, and then would uncomplicate the whole financing issue as well..
London Prophet
Not officially, but I expect so - if they accept you deferred you have to prove that you're not only better than most of the current applications, but better than their guestimate for next year too.

I think you asked a while ago who had gotten in for PPE at Oxford but was rejected somewhere else? York rejected me the other day, if it's still relevant.
Metamorphosis_S
I think you asked a while ago who had gotten in for PPE at Oxford but was rejected somewhere else? York rejected me the other day, if it's still relevant.


Yeah me too, just in this last week. They don't know what they're missing out on.:wink: :biggrin:
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Can anyone tell me about the example questions they usually give during the interviews to test your abitlity? It would be great to hear some examples and some answers.
just wondering
what readings do you guys recommend. currently as
lmfao
Can anyone tell me about the example questions they usually give during the interviews to test your abitlity? It would be great to hear some examples and some answers.


Check part 4.4 of the guide (first 7 or so posts of this topic)
this is aimed at everyone who either is or has done PPE;
currently im doing my AS Levels- History, Economics, Philosophy, Maths and Further Maths, and I've got to drop one at the end of this year. I've got a while to decide but basically I've found history quite boring but philosophy the complete opposite. I know tutors would be far more impressed with history A2 than philosophy, but I just can't comprehend dropping philosophy.
What do you think I should do, seeing as I dont think History will be quite as boring as this year, but still nowhere near as good as philosophy?
Oh and I don't think I've said this before, but this thread has been incredibly helpful!
Hi guys,

do you study Machiavelli at any time during the PPE degree - and if yes, does anyone have any lecture notes or other notes on him which they wouldn't mind e-mailing to me as I'm doing my Extended Essay on The Prince and so any such resources would be hugely useful?

Thanks and I would be extremely grateful!
Merk that Sike of a Mike
this is aimed at everyone who either is or has done PPE;
currently im doing my AS Levels- History, Economics, Philosophy, Maths and Further Maths, and I've got to drop one at the end of this year. I've got a while to decide but basically I've found history quite boring but philosophy the complete opposite. I know tutors would be far more impressed with history A2 than philosophy, but I just can't comprehend dropping philosophy.
What do you think I should do, seeing as I dont think History will be quite as boring as this year, but still nowhere near as good as philosophy?
Oh and I don't think I've said this before, but this thread has been incredibly helpful!


Do Philosophy if you like it best!

It's an essay subject so it's fine.

Maths, Phil and Eco are a great combination to take onto an application.

Definately do Philosophy if you prefer it. It isn't that much lower than History. I'd certainly bracket it alongside Govt and Pol, for example, which I had on my application!

Do what you enjoy. Good luck!

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