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SuperNinja09
Could the questions asked cover any of the sciences? Because I'm particularly interested in physics and I didn't take any science A/S levels other than physics, so could I be asked chemistry or biology questions?

And thanks for all the replies by the way. Any information is much appreciated.


They won't ask you questions about chemistry or biology if you haven't done the AS levels - but you might want to consider a different course if you're only interested in Physics and didn't take any other science AS levels, because the Natural Sciences course is very broad-based and you would have to take several different options in the first year at least, and some of the courses have certain A-levels as prerequisites. The admissions requirements from the colleges tend to state particular A-levels or groups of A-levels; you might find you needed, say, two science subjects and Maths, or something. Check the university website.
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grovichik
Hope this helps.


It does!! Thanks a lot :smile:
Which options are you taking for part IB?
No problem.

Not 100% decided but considering ecology, animal biology, pathology and physiology.

As for the 1A courses, my favourite was probably E&B although Easter term is about humans and primate and I found it less interesting (some lectures seemed more like a list of the different bones anthropologists have found and the year they dated to). Physiology is really good and I liked thinking about the principles and comparing plants and animals. The practicals for it are a bit rushed and confusing at times though. Cells is good too but it is a lot of memorising..I liked the practicals though. QB is just seen as a necessity for most people but it is quite a good course and I believe it will be really useful to me in the future. For example, just back from the 1B ecology fieldcourse and we used a lot of statistics; having done QB made these a lot easier.

Are you definitely taking these 4 options?
InVinoVeritas
For NatSci I think the only test is the TSA which is a bit like a dodgy IQ test which they don't really put much weighting on. However don't quote me on that, I might be being an idiot.

phil.


Just to quickly comment on this - when I went on the science open day at Clare last year, the science admissions tutor (William Foster) told us that the TSA would probably take up about 1/3 of their decision (1/3 being interview, 1/3 being UCAS form including grades) for natsci. This was a while ago so I can't remember the exact details, but I specifically asked him whether the TSA was important and I remember feeling that there was far too much weighting on the TSA for me.
Excalibur
Just to quickly comment on this - when I went on the science open day at Clare last year, the science admissions tutor (William Foster) told us that the TSA would probably take up about 1/3 of their decision (1/3 being interview, 1/3 being UCAS form including grades) for natsci. This was a while ago so I can't remember the exact details, but I specifically asked him whether the TSA was important and I remember feeling that there was far too much weighting on the TSA for me.


I got the impression they found no real correlation between TSA results and degree class so started dropping the importance of the TSA. Tbh, I made sure I had practiced TSA style questions and I think I did reasonably well on it, how much that played in my offer I don't know. So yes, you might be right.

phil.
bodybuilder22
Read the response to the thread you started 2 weeks ago that asked the same question, ditsy cow.

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?p=19829092#post19829092


Yes, but this isn't subject-specific. I had no idea it would annoy you so much. :s-smilie: Besides, the thread it got moved to is talking about other stuff now, anyways...
TsarinaMeg
Yes, but this isn't subject-specific. I had no idea it would annoy you so much. :s-smilie: Besides, the thread it got moved to is talking about other stuff now, anyways...


I know its lame to quote yourself, but there was a need. I realised this WAS subject-specific. And yes, you're right, I AM a ditsy cow.
Deipnosophist123
Haha. To be fair on her though, this question is a little different.

Now I'm going to try and answer from the awkward position of someone who only holds an offer, and thus all the details I provide are based on second-hand accounts from friends who study there / what I gleaned when up at interview

a) Close to Bodleian Library

I believe, as the library is pretty centrally located, that a lot of colleges are close by. Brasenose and Hertford are the most obvious, but Balliol/Trinity and the Turl Street colleges aren't exactly far.

b) Good bar/JCR etc.

I can't answer this, it's better for current or ex-students to tell you. All I know is that LMH is completing renovation of their JCR, but they're unfortunately far out from the centre.

c) Not too fussed about food, but preferrably decent kitchen facilities

As per b), I can't really help. In fact, I realise I'm not very helpful at all, so I've skipped to g) :biggrin:

g) I don't mind it big, in size or population so long as there's a friendly atmosphere

St. Anne's is one of the biggest colleges, but is also considered one of the most laid back and friendly. I kind of wish I'd applied there actually, as much as I love my (hopefully) future college. On the other hand, there are some that are considered, purely by stereotype, to be less friendly (Christ Church, Merton etc.), though I don't know how true these stereotypes are.

h) somewhere kids aren't TOO uptight over academics.. ie people who can take studying seriously, but still have fun.

There will surely be people like this in almost every college?

Basically, as you can see from the more general questions (i.e. the only type I'm at all able to answer :p:), you may find a lot of colleges fit your criteria. The best bet is to wait for actual students to narrow down your choices through the more specific questions (kitchen facilities, sports and music), and then make a shortlist, after which you MUST visit the university. I believe this is the only way of truly deciding on the best college for you. The college I ended up applying to wasn't even on my shortlist, in fact, I just turned up and loved it, it really does happen like that.

Best of luck. The only other advice I can give is to not post too many topics like this in the coming months, I'm sure it's annoying for the current students to have to answer.



Thanks. :biggrin: you've been really helpful. I haven't got my results yet but I'm just freaking out, and I thought people could really benefit... Unfortunately, my family decided to move abroad so now I have to apply as an International Student and I won't have the opportunity of visiting any unis until Christmas. I was supposed to go this summer, but things just didn't work out. :frown:
Christ Church isn't friendly?? :frown: It was one of the few I liked (purely by instinct)
I was hoping a few students on summer break/ past pupils would be able to answer the specifics... but thanks for all the help!!!
Just get the prospectus and look on the web. Pick your criteria and cross off colleges. Eventually you'll see one that you like.
If you have no other sciences except physics, then you do not meet the entry requirements for Natural Sciences, I'm afraid.
The Cambridge site says that you cannot take the Physics module unless you have EITHER Physics A Level (or AS, I can't remember..) OR have Further Maths WITH at least THREE Mechanics modules. Is this completely rigid or is there some flexibility in it?

I am hoping to be a BioNatSci but given that the CompSci module clashes with BioCells, I want to take Physics instead of CompSci. However, I will only have done 1 Mechanics module in Further Maths and do not have Physics at A Level or AS but I will have an A Level in Electronics. Could they budge or will it be a firm no on Physics?
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FadedJade
If you have no other sciences except physics, then you do not meet the entry requirements for Natural Sciences, I'm afraid.


They probably have Maths, in which case they can get in

i.am.lost

sgf


It is likely to be pretty rigid, as you would be starting from quite a way behind everyone else

Very few BioNatScis do/enjoy doing physics
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grovichik
Are you definitely taking these 4 options?


Definitely yes, I am. I'm just very much into all the three subjects and, even though I like also Geology (and Materials pehaps), I have no doubt.
Thanks for the info, I'm getting even more excited about the idea. :smile:
Are the "bio options" really hard and very essay - based, as they say?
I like your choices for part IB though :smile:
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FadedJade
If you have no other sciences except physics, then you do not meet the entry requirements for Natural Sciences, I'm afraid.

I'm living counter-example although I didn't do A-levels. I think they say somewhere that i't possible but you have to be aware it limits your first year options.
Is the Economist monthly?
dorian gray
Is the Economist monthly?

No, weekly.
Graphix
No, weekly.


Thank you :biggrin:

That deal is pretty good!

That would be £120 for 52 issues, £2.30 each with 6 issues extra issues for £1.

Or 58 issues for £2.08 each. In contrast to the £4 shelf price that's amazing, I may subscribe now.
dorian gray
Thank you :biggrin:

That deal is pretty good!

That would be £120 for 52 issues, £2.30 each with 6 issues extra issues for £1.

Or 58 issues for £2.08 each. In contrast to the £4 shelf price that's amazing, I may subscribe now.

I'm gonna cancel after I get my 6th issue :awesome:
InVinoVeritas
I got the impression they found no real correlation between TSA results and degree class so started dropping the importance of the TSA. Tbh, I made sure I had practiced TSA style questions and I think I did reasonably well on it, how much that played in my offer I don't know. So yes, you might be right.

phil.


Yes, you might be right. I just suck at aptitude tests and whatnot, so I made sure I picked a college without it :redface:

Gaia90

Are the "bio options" really hard and very essay - based, as they say?


I know you didn't ask me, but... for Cells, you usually get set either an essay or some short answer/practical paper questions alternately. At the end of the year there are two exams - a written paper (worth 2/3 of your cells mark) with 10 short answer questions (1 paragraph ish each) and 10 essay titles, of which you choose 3. The other 1/3 of cells is a practical paper with calculations and questions based on practicals. So in comparison to E&B, Cells is not *that* essay based, although the physnatscis doing cells never stopped complaining about the essays :p:

E&B is purely essay-based; in the exam you write 5 essays. I found E&B essays to be a lot more challenging than Cells ones - in cells, it was mainly regurgitating facts in an organised way, whereas with E&B you actually needed to have some sort of argument with some scope to express your opinion/pass your own judgment on things. I really enjoyed E&B essays though, and would really recommend the subject if you like evolution stuff.

Whether it's 'hard' is very subjective; each subject is hard in its own way. For example, I found cells hard because of the sheer volume of stuff to just simply memorise - but conceptually it wasn't that difficult. E&B I found a lot harder to get my head around and to get used to the somewhat less factually rigorous nature, but I found the exam easiest to prepare for and the least stressful to sit (and it was my highest mark in the end).

Hope that helps, sorry I rambled on a bit!
hey, sorry if this has already been asked.. i read that most people have 3 sciences at A2 level for natural sciences and just wondered if they counted geology as a science? i emailed them but have yet got no reply...
thanks :smile:

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