The Student Room Logo

Oxford PPE (Philosophy, Politics and Economics) Students and Applicants

Scroll to see replies

Reply 420
Lets see. For Politics, I read On Liberty by John Stuart Mill and The Communist Manifesto, both of which are nice and short and easy to understand. Also start regularly reading an intelligent newspaper or The Economist or something if you don't already, and make sure you keep generally up to date with current affairs.

For economics, one or both of Freakonomics and the Undercover Economist (I liked this one better) is a good pop science start. The Worldly Philosophers is a very readable introduction to the history of economic thought and well worth it too.

Otherwise... just try reading into a few things that you think look interesting. I went reading into Existentialism quite a bit before my interview and it was an absolute godsend when my darling Philosophy interviewer went "What do you want to talk about" and my brain just immediately reeled off the first thing I remembered about Satre and off we went. My best piece of advice is to never underestimate the charms of short books, because you can read more of them in a shorter space of time and it makes you feel cleverer, even if you'd still have read the same amount in a big one :biggrin:
Greetings again! Thanks for the reading list, now that exams are over I shall begin tackling these books. My next question is .... what college to apply to? (This is based on the Times University Guide) but they say that Balliol, New, Magdalen and Oriel are the best colleges for PPE. I know that there's not apparently there's not a lot of difference between each college but my neighbour went to Wadham and said that the quality of tutors is actually quite important. New college looks amazing otherwise and it looks as if I would enjoy it there providing they'd have me!
Reply 422
Fortification
Greetings again! Thanks for the reading list, now that exams are over I shall begin tackling these books. My next question is .... what college to apply to? (This is based on the Times University Guide) but they say that Balliol, New, Magdalen and Oriel are the best colleges for PPE. I know that there's not apparently there's not a lot of difference between each college but my neighbour went to Wadham and said that the quality of tutors is actually quite important. New college looks amazing otherwise and it looks as if I would enjoy it there providing they'd have me!

Balliol has the best reputation for PPE. That said, all colleges will teach it well. Balliol's just more well known etc. The tutors at my college (Corpus Christi) have been excellent.

As for choosing a college, I recommend you visit Oxford and have a look around the ones that take your fancy. You should be able to narrow down to around 6 colleges (for example, many people want to be in a certain part of Oxford. St Hugh's college, for example, is a fair distance from the centre. This is a stark contrast to the more central colleges like Corpus Christi, Christ Church, Oriel, Trinity, Balliol, Brasenose, Hertford etc).

But yeah ... come and visit - some colleges will just 'click' with you better than others. Before I had visited Oxford, I intended to apply to Oriel. But, after I had visited, I much preferred Corpus Christi (though this is personal preference, there's no "objectively best college" or anything like that).

Hope that helps.
Thanks for the reading ideas!

How important do you think extra-curricular activities are? I have absolutely nothing.
wave_o_mutilation
Thanks for the reading ideas!

How important do you think extra-curricular activities are? I have absolutely nothing.


Then you are blessed, my dear, because they are absolutely useless.

Unless by "absolutely nothing" you mean that you execute no action outside of that specified by the national curriculum. That would be weird.
samlangfield
Then you are blessed, my dear, because they are absolutely useless.

Unless by "absolutely nothing" you mean that you execute no action outside of that specified by the national curriculum. That would be weird.


That's not quite true, and it will depend on your college and tutors.

For example I have friends who's interview were as much taken up about rowing as about academic questions.

Many tutors like to see well rounded individuals who are not purely academic in nature. It depends on the tutor.
London Prophet
That's not quite true, and it will depend on your college and tutors.

For example I have friends who's interview were as much taken up about rowing as about academic questions.

Many tutors like to see well rounded individuals who are not purely academic in nature. It depends on the tutor.


Maybe at spc.
Thank you everyone for your information, this has been incredibly useful!

I think it's a shame that the written exam may filter the less able applicants, the experience of an Oxbridge itnerview (judging by the replies on here) seems very interesting!

Open day next Wednesday- wooo!
Reply 428
How tolerant are Christ Church for missing offers - I've completely messed up A-Level mathematics (they're asking for AAA incl. mathematics and economics) and I'm very worried I'll miss my offer. :frown: I was really looking forward to reading PPE as well - the course looks amazing and Christ Church seems wonderful! Would AEA performance be taken into account if/when I fail maths - I'm doing them in both chemistry and economics. According to a letter ChCh sent to my school I managed to do very well on the PPE written test and in the politics interview - I maintain both were flukes, especially as I'm abysmal at the word definitions! - and came top of the college in both; would that be factored into it?

Failing that, would they mind if I re-applied? & If I did, would I have to sit the new PPE test? And could I re-apply to the same college?

Merci beaucoup.
Reply 429
You could reapply, but if you've missed your offer this time around I assume you'll be doing it with AAB or AAAB, and to be honest that's not going to be good enough- all other post A-level applicants will have AAA or AAAA. The best thing to do is just to have faith and hope your Maths grade comes out alright anyway...
Reply 430
Aj_deity
You could reapply, but if you've missed your offer this time around I assume you'll be doing it with AAB or AAAB, and to be honest that's not going to be good enough- all other post A-level applicants will have AAA or AAAA. The best thing to do is just to have faith and hope your Maths grade comes out alright anyway...


Do they not consider resits?
Reply 431
Crazy, I wouldn't have ever thought that I'd even be considering applying to Oxford again, but for whatever reason, I am.
Applied for PPE last year and was rejected, and I totally see why - when looking back, it feels like I was in trance or on drugs all the time, simply not getting my head to work at all - I thus messed up the test and sat with the philosophy tutor in meaningful silence.
Situation is: I have just received my Abitur grades - I was predicted 1.2 - 1.4 (which is what I told Oxford) and have now got 1.0 (does this mean anything to you at all?) which is bloody cool. I believe I can do much better than I did last year and that I am clever enough to do alright at Oxford - I guess though this is what everybody thinks. Really don't know what to do now - getting rejected a second time would probably destroy my remaining confidence and would also mean - again - lots of work and effort for nothing.
Anyone else in this position? :redface:
Reply 432
Oceansize - I assume the closer to one, the better? In which case, go for it! Presumably you won't have any education commitments (school, college, etc.) until the interviews? If that's the case, you should have loads of time to acquaint yourself with all the PPE concepts which the Oxford interviewers like.

Which college did you apply to last time, and presumably will you go for a different one if you re-apply?

Aj_deity
Otherwise... just try reading into a few things that you think look interesting. I went reading into Existentialism quite a bit before my interview and it was an absolute godsend when my darling Philosophy interviewer went "What do you want to talk about" and my brain just immediately reeled off the first thing I remembered about Satre and off we went.


Did you apply to Christ Church by any chance? & If you did, would you happen to be that Welsh guy who's dad's infamous for sinking a punt with a barrel of beer?

Aj_deity
My best piece of advice is to never underestimate the charms of short books, because you can read more of them in a shorter space of time and it makes you feel cleverer, even if you'd still have read the same amount in a big one :biggrin:


True, but long ones can be more rewarding and look more impressive!

Edit: Double-post; sorry.
Reply 433
Cicero


Did you apply to Christ Church by any chance? & If you did, would you happen to be that Welsh guy who's dad's infamous for sinking a punt with a barrel of beer?



Oh, if only. I'm female, from East Anglia, I applied to Wadham and the most interesting thing my father has done with punts is take them up rapids on that river in Durham. Close, though. :biggrin:

You are 100% right about the book thing, of course. I tend to just like the way that big ones look on the shelves rather than actually considering reading them, though. In much the same way as I'll make a giant colour coded revision poster and then think that putting it up and never looking at it again constitutes ongoing revision. Oh, impending failure, how I love thee.

And huh, I thought I'd replied to your "Do they not consider resits"... I wrote something along the lines of "Yes but doing three years of exams doesn't look fantastic but then again what do I know I'm just a lowly applicant, go for it". But it was much better phrased.
Reply 434
hello.
yes, 1.0 is the best you can have. bloody cool, wouldn't have expected that at all.
anyway, i think i'll start studying maths here in germany from october on - to keep my brain busy etc. or even expand it :biggrin: , and still apply to oxford, and, should they want me, just leave after my first year of maths.
but yes, i have lots of time over the summer to read and write my ps etc. do you recommend any books apart from those that were mentioned above? what else to do to prepare? problem is - last year the questions in the interview weren't mean or particularly difficult, when looking back it simply feels like i walked in there without my head.
applied to magdalen last time round - and i'm not normally the type of person that feels intimidated quickly but it was quite awful.
dunno which college to apply to this time round, want it to be a bit smaller maybe, and more relaxed, somewhere in the upper middle of the ranking? :biggrin: suggestions?
do i need to write a new ps? because my main motivation has not changed. and after spending hours on my ps i actually quite like it. do you think they'll look at last year's application and compare the statements / references, even if i apply to a different college? do i need a new reference? updated, surely, but all new? :confused:
thank you for your help!
Reply 435
oceansize
hello.
yes, 1.0 is the best you can have. bloody cool, wouldn't have expected that at all.
anyway, i think i'll start studying maths here in germany from october on - to keep my brain busy etc. or even expand it :biggrin: , and still apply to oxford, and, should they want me, just leave after my first year of maths.
but yes, i have lots of time over the summer to read and write my ps etc. do you recommend any books apart from those that were mentioned above? what else to do to prepare? problem is - last year the questions in the interview weren't mean or particularly difficult, when looking back it simply feels like i walked in there without my head.
applied to magdalen last time round - and i'm not normally the type of person that feels intimidated quickly but it was quite awful.
dunno which college to apply to this time round, want it to be a bit smaller maybe, and more relaxed, somewhere in the upper middle of the ranking? :biggrin: suggestions?
do i need to write a new ps? because my main motivation has not changed. and after spending hours on my ps i actually quite like it. do you think they'll look at last year's application and compare the statements / references, even if i apply to a different college? do i need a new reference? updated, surely, but all new? :confused:
thank you for your help!

You will be fine as long as you apply directly to any college besides Magdalen. I doubt they will have access to your previous application material (2 years ago, they surely didn't, but I don't know if the procedure has changed now). Don't worry though; there are many who re-apply to Oxford and some are fortunate enough to be accepted the second time round.
Reply 436
oceansize
hello.
yes, 1.0 is the best you can have. bloody cool, wouldn't have expected that at all.
anyway, i think i'll start studying maths here in germany from october on - to keep my brain busy etc. or even expand it :biggrin: , and still apply to oxford, and, should they want me, just leave after my first year of maths.
but yes, i have lots of time over the summer to read and write my ps etc. do you recommend any books apart from those that were mentioned above? what else to do to prepare? problem is - last year the questions in the interview weren't mean or particularly difficult, when looking back it simply feels like i walked in there without my head.
applied to magdalen last time round - and i'm not normally the type of person that feels intimidated quickly but it was quite awful.
dunno which college to apply to this time round, want it to be a bit smaller maybe, and more relaxed, somewhere in the upper middle of the ranking? :biggrin: suggestions?
do i need to write a new ps? because my main motivation has not changed. and after spending hours on my ps i actually quite like it. do you think they'll look at last year's application and compare the statements / references, even if i apply to a different college? do i need a new reference? updated, surely, but all new? :confused:
thank you for your help!


Going for the first year in Germany sounds like a good idea- then you've got nothing to lose, as it were. If you get a place at Oxford, then you'll still be in pratice with learning but you're not going to find the first year totally dull because you've just gone over the same stuff, if you don't then at least you've had a fun few days in England and you're doing Maths somewhere great in Germany.

You might want to look over your PS again, particularly if you are reading new stuff, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Same with the reference.

I've just torn my room apart looking for the reading list I got from an Eton summer school for PPE, but no joy unfortunately. Your best bet is to read things you think you'll enjoy, so pick things that interest you and take it from there.
Reply 437
hey guys.just wanted to ask u some questions before i start writing my PS.
On oxford''s website it says that starting from Year 2,you can basically specialise in 2 subjects(i.e:tongue:olitics and philosphy) or continue with all 3.
Is that true?if so,does that mean i wont have to take any eco classes at all during those 2 years?my problem is the lack of AS/A level maths.and also the current a levels im taking are not considered to be as strong as others:accounting,law,politics and economics.was thinking of picking up History AS next year.
also,how mathsy does the 1st year eco get?are the mathematical concepts used ,AS or A2 level?also what proportion of people that are currently taking PPE dont have A Level Maths,from the people u personally know,of course?
thanks
Reply 438
andy87
hey guys.just wanted to ask u some questions before i start writing my PS.
On oxford''s website it says that starting from Year 2,you can basically specialise in 2 subjects(i.e:tongue:olitics and philosphy) or continue with all 3.
Is that true?if so,does that mean i wont have to take any eco classes at all during those 2 years?my problem is the lack of AS/A level maths.and also the current a levels im taking are not considered to be as strong as others:accounting,law,politics and economics.was thinking of picking up History AS next year.
also,how mathsy does the 1st year eco get?are the mathematical concepts used ,AS or A2 level?also what proportion of people that are currently taking PPE dont have A Level Maths,from the people u personally know,of course?
thanks


The first year of economics is supposed to be very mathsy, in fact as I recall there's even a question entirely on maths in the Economics prelims. As such if you're going to pick up any AS you'd probably be best picking up maths, as the vast majority of applicants and those accepted have maths to A2 level, and from what I've heard, those without it tend to struggle in the first year.
Reply 439
oceansize
hello.
yes, 1.0 is the best you can have. bloody cool, wouldn't have expected that at all.
anyway, i think i'll start studying maths here in germany from october on - to keep my brain busy etc. or even expand it :biggrin: , and still apply to oxford, and, should they want me, just leave after my first year of maths.
but yes, i have lots of time over the summer to read and write my ps etc. do you recommend any books apart from those that were mentioned above? what else to do to prepare? problem is - last year the questions in the interview weren't mean or particularly difficult, when looking back it simply feels like i walked in there without my head.
applied to magdalen last time round - and i'm not normally the type of person that feels intimidated quickly but it was quite awful.
dunno which college to apply to this time round, want it to be a bit smaller maybe, and more relaxed, somewhere in the upper middle of the ranking? :biggrin: suggestions?
do i need to write a new ps? because my main motivation has not changed. and after spending hours on my ps i actually quite like it. do you think they'll look at last year's application and compare the statements / references, even if i apply to a different college? do i need a new reference? updated, surely, but all new? :confused:
thank you for your help!


I thought Economics by Alain Anderton was a good book, tough going but good for giving a basis grounding in some introductory Economics, and very much helped me when I came to the Economics interview and the Economics question in the written test.

Quick Reply

Latest