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Reply 460
Mia:x
This thread it amazing!! Im only 15, but after meetings with careers officers etc, i am considering PPE as a university course. This thread has answered all questions that i had..thankyou!!

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Exactly the same for me actually, thanks to anyone who has contributed. :wink:
Chruchill
Exactly the same for me actually, thanks to anyone who has contributed. :wink:


*raises hand* I did :p:
PPE results are out
Reply 463
Hi

I also have to say thanks to everybody here who contributed to complete this guide!

I also want to start to study PPE in Oxford next year. I think I understood how I can prepare politics and philosophy, but unfortunately, I have been never taught in economics.
Does anyone here feels like he could recommend a specific book to gain and exercise basical knowledge in economics? Especially, I don't know what kind of maths I need for economics?

Thank you very much for your help

LoveEng
Reply 464
Free Lunch
Freakonomics
The undercover Economist
The armchair Economist

these are all good INTRODUCTORY books LoveEng. Thy will all give you an insight into economics and they are very helpful for those that have not been exposed to the subject before. No maths is involved as such, but Freakonomics certainly has some practical and everyday 'puzzles' that do make you think.
As far as Maths is concerned, I wouldn't worry about specific Economics maths, but rather Maths in general. I hope you are doing Maths to an advanced level at your school. If you are, I wouldn't worry.

I'm not applying for PPE, but im always happy to help with book recommendations etc!

good luck
:smile:
Reply 465
Hi 1361

Thank you for your answer!

Many people here recommend to prepare game theory, e.g. for the interview.
I have absolutely NO IDEA what game theory is and I wanted to ask if anybody here knows a special book which is recommendable to get the basics?

Thank you for your time

LoveEng
Reply 466
yes loveeng, game theory is quite important i'd say. books on the subject are really old, out of print and out of date.
the best thing to do is look at the net.

www.gametheory.net
or type in "stanford encyclopedia of philosophy- game theory" on google
:wink:
For game theory/interview preparation 'Thinking Strategically' is essential.
Reply 468
^^ Well it's certainly not essential (given that I got in and have never heard of it) but whatever.
Excellent Thread London Prophet Good Job Mate,

Had a question to ask you, reading the thread as you said 'PPE attracts the brightest pupils' and i'll explain the dilemma i'm facing with this;

- Basically i have just finished my A-levels and am predicted AAAaa (with the last AS 'a' in General Studies)

However i am doing a gap year with KPMG this year and an extra A-Level or so and will be applying with, AAAAA(A) (with the last 'A' in General Studies) - all of which i have completed at a Grammar School,

But the High School i went to was a bog standard state comprehensive and as a result my GCSE results suffered, i have 4A*'s, 3A's and 3B's (with my high school having a 49% pass rate for pupils gaining 5 GCSE's between A*-C)

I was wondering if you thought i had a reasonable chance of actually getting into PPE with this???

I know i can do well in my Interview (with preparation of course) and PS (as i do 2/3 subjects for A2 and so have a genuine interest in them to begin with), its only my GCSE scores which are making me worrying me badly,

Would Oxford place much emphasis on the fact that my high school was not to good which contributed to my performance???

Also from the people who study PPE with you or that you know of, do most have like all A's and A*'s etc??

Thanks for your help mate it will get me out of a big dilemma that i have at the moment :smile:
Reply 470
Your school background will be taken into account, meaning that your results will be looked at in a slightly more sympathetic light than somebody who got similar results from a higher scoring school. You've got a chance, so as long as your results come through fine, then go for it.
akademic
Excellent Thread London Prophet Good Job Mate,

Had a question to ask you, reading the thread as you said 'PPE attracts the brightest pupils' and i'll explain the dilemma i'm facing with this;

- Basically i have just finished my A-levels and am predicted AAAaa (with the last AS 'a' in General Studies)

However i am doing a gap year with KPMG this year and an extra A-Level or so and will be applying with, AAAAA(A) (with the last 'A' in General Studies) - all of which i have completed at a Grammar School,

But the High School i went to was a bog standard state comprehensive and as a result my GCSE results suffered, i have 4A*'s, 3A's and 3B's (with my high school having a 49% pass rate for pupils gaining 5 GCSE's between A*-C)

I was wondering if you thought i had a reasonable chance of actually getting into PPE with this???

I know i can do well in my Interview (with preparation of course) and PS (as i do 2/3 subjects for A2 and so have a genuine interest in them to begin with), its only my GCSE scores which are making me worrying me badly,

Would Oxford place much emphasis on the fact that my high school was not to good which contributed to my performance???

Also from the people who study PPE with you or that you know of, do most have like all A's and A*'s etc??

Thanks for your help mate it will get me out of a big dilemma that i have at the moment :smile:


Your GCSEs aren't bad at all. Unless your Bs were in Maths/English, they are hardly going to be the worst they've seen.
Reply 472
Hey everybody

I'm sure I'm not the only one who hasn't got Economics as a subject at school.
Now do you guys think I should nevertheless prepare for Economics (I mean Macro- and Microeconomics) for the interview? I know the interview is in December (if I really get invited), however, I need to plan just now.
So do you think they consider that I just can't know really something about Macro-and Microeconomics? Or do they expect me to prepare for it?

Thanks!
Reply 473
LoveEng

I'm sure I'm not the only one who hasn't got Economics as a subject at school.
Now do you guys think I should nevertheless prepare for Economics (I mean Macro- and Microeconomics) for the interview? I know the interview is in December (if I really get invited), however, I need to plan just now.
So do you think they consider that I just can't know really something about Macro-and Microeconomics? Or do they expect me to prepare for it?


Plenty of PPE applicants don't have economics at A level - it's not even on the "useful background" subject list. In fact, the tutors on the open day told me A level economics is sometimes taught so crudely that they prefer people not to have done it.

It's a good idea to have read an introductory economics book, a newspaper every day, and (if possible) The Economist, so that you are familiar with basic economic concepts. However, the tutors will be testing how you think rather than what you know.

I haven't done it for AS but I am picking it up for A2 in September, but that's more out of interest than specific preparation for PPE.
Budgie
Plenty of PPE applicants don't have economics at A level - it's not even on the "useful background" subject list. In fact, the tutors on the open day told me A level economics is sometimes taught so crudely that they prefer people not to have done it.

It's a good idea to have read an introductory economics book, a newspaper every day, and (if possible) The Economist, so that you are familiar with basic economic concepts. However, the tutors will be testing how you think rather than what you know.

I haven't done it for AS but I am picking it up for A2 in September, but that's more out of interest than specific preparation for PPE.


:s-smilie: you've made me abit worried now by saying this as i have it as one of my A2 subjects lol, would that then be considered a bad thing (I.e. would say a another candidate is the same in all aspects to me but has not done economics a-level, would they prefer him over me)???

i'm just asking as i would have thought even though a-level economics may be thought of as being taught crudely, it still helps easier understand and better prepare you for many elements of PPE - e.g. having looked at the course spec i understand most of the philosophy elements as i have also taken that subject for A2 :smile:
Reply 475
^^ You are not advantaged either way by having taken, or not, economics A Level.

Your GCSEs aren't a problem as the tutors know the average GCSE attainment at the school you took them, and will take it into account.
Reply 476
I have started a facebook PPE in an attempt to develop a community of PPE aspirants- I presume you understand the advanages of Facebook for community building.

So please join and let's pool our ideas!!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3815493030

Best of luck:smile:

DNA
Reply 477
akademic
:s-smilie: you've made me abit worried now by saying this as i have it as one of my A2 subjects lol, would that then be considered a bad thing (I.e. would say a another candidate is the same in all aspects to me but has not done economics a-level, would they prefer him over me)???


Nono I didn't mean it like that exactly - it's a good subject to do and I wish I had done it this year! I think what they meant is that they occasionally come across a student who they find has been taught "crudely".

To balance my earlier comments, a tutor at the Cheltenham Oxbridge day said "in my opinion, History, Maths and Economics would be the perfect A level combination" - so having done economics is hardly going to put tutors off.

I agree with kizer - you are neither advantaged nor disadvantaged by having done it.
Budgie
Nono I didn't mean it like that exactly - it's a good subject to do and I wish I had done it this year! I think what they meant is that they occasionally come across a student who they find has been taught "crudely".

To balance my earlier comments, a tutor at the Cheltenham Oxbridge day said "in my opinion, History, Maths and Economics would be the perfect A level combination" - so having done economics is hardly going to put tutors off.

I agree with kizer - you are neither advantaged nor disadvantaged by having done it.


History, Maths and anything is a perfect combination.
Reply 479
History, Mathematics and Economics maybe?

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