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BigFudamental
What's it on??

Eek, sorry my reply's a bit late...was busy last night.

It's entitled "The Glassy State of Matter: Novel Properties and Applications ― golf, frozen frogs, memory"

Here's the abstract:
The glassy state is familiar from windows and drinking vessels, but can be found in a very wide range of materials with all types of chemical bonding. We will explore three types of unconventional glasses, based on metals, on carbohydrates and on chalcogenides, in each case highlighting some novel applications.

I'm pretty sure I've seen a similar one given by the same person and it was rather good.
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Game_boy
Are the biological options significantly more wordy/essay based than the applied physical ones (MMS and geology?). I think I would like Biology if it's taught properly (less vague, more rigour) unlike at A-level. I was going to pick MMS but the content of Cell Biology could be more interesting.


There are no essays in physical modules (except in Geology). In MMS, you might get questions to explain something but that means writing a couple of sentences about it, very clear and concise. Similar as in Chemistry, sometimes you need to explain why a certain reaction happens in words rather than just mechanisms and equations. If you are planning on doing MMS, keep in mind than you will spend a fair amount of time using data books, graphs (a lot of them), spectra, micrographs, etc. The problem sheets are quite a bit different for MMS than for other physical modules (but hey, at least you're less likely to get sick of just solving problems mathematically). Take a look at websites of each of these modules (there you can find a lot of the course material- handouts, problem sheets, etc. that we get).
Maths and Business
Reply 5343
Hello there :smile: I'm interested in the NatSci course and am thinking of applying next year and had a few qestions to throw at you here :p:
firstly, im confused about the difference between biological natsci and physical. apparently they arent just equated to biology and physics right? and do you apply to a specific course or just one of those two and specialise later? :biggrin:

Also, is biological natsci a very wordy/essay-y/english-y subject? :s-smilie: sure hope not lol. At school i take bio,chemistry & physics. and i love them all :smile: so not sure where to apply yet. Oh and one last one: i hear some colleges do a test at interview?! (and im not talking about the TSA cuz im gonna avoid that if i can :yep: ) i took a look at the one at magd and trinity.. no comment lol

aanyway you may enlighten me please :smile:
Amahia11

firstly, im confused about the difference between biological natsci and physical. apparently they arent just equated to biology and physics right? and do you apply to a specific course or just one of those two and specialise later? :biggrin:

You're right in that the distinction is not as clear. You apply to one of Biological or Physical on the Cambridge SAQ. Biological touches all the main aspects of biology (from molecular biology to ecology). But Physical refers to chemistry, physics, geology and materials, and their related subjects.


Also, is biological natsci a very wordy/essay-y/english-y subject? :s-smilie: sure hope not lol.

The three first year biological options (Biology of Cells, Evolution & Behaviour, Physiology of Organisms) are all significantly essay-based. Bio NatSci's can choose Chemistry (which only has explanation-type answers) or Geology (which I believe has some essays...). They can theoretically push their DoS (once they're here) to be allowed to do other physical options, but that's fairly rare (though many Bio NatSci students do physical maths e.g. Maths A).


so not sure where to apply yet. Oh and one last one: i hear some colleges do a test at interview?!

That is correct.
Amahia11
Hello there :smile: I'm interested in the NatSci course and am thinking of applying next year and had a few qestions to throw at you here :p:
firstly, im confused about the difference between biological natsci and physical. apparently they arent just equated to biology and physics right? and do you apply to a specific course or just one of those two and specialise later? :biggrin:


Applying for Bio Natsci or Physical Natsci makes no difference to the choice of modules or the degree itself. It's purely for administration purposes. You're free to do any combination of the options in Natural Sciences regardless of which you choose.

Physical is anything that is not Biological, so that includes Chemistry. But, again, it's not an important decision which one you apply under.
michaelyus
They can theoretically push their DoS (once they're here) to be allowed to do other physical options, but that's fairly rare (though many Bio NatSci students do physical maths e.g. Maths A).


That is correct.


Don't know about bio natsci doing physical courses but there are quite a lot of physical natscis doing bio options so it's not all that rigid.
Reply 5347
I think the distinction may be more or less strict at different colleges. Here (Christ's) there's no official division, and you can choose any combination of options (as long as the lectures don't clash, obviously)
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Scipio90
I think the distinction may be more or less strict at different colleges. Here (Christ's) there's no official division, and you can choose any combination of options (as long as the lectures don't clash, obviously)


Ah right.. but at interview, do they base questions based on which one you take? And at christs do they do a test at interview :s-smilie: ? i read somewhere they want written work sent in...do they mean like an essy or report ot what? and do you do many essays and written reports? :biggrin: cheers :smile:
Reply 5349
I think you'll get interviewed as either biological or physical, yes. I didn't have to send in any work when I applied, but they might have changed it since then.
Reply 5350
Amahia11
Ah right.. but at interview, do they base questions based on which one you take? And at christs do they do a test at interview :s-smilie: ? i read somewhere they want written work sent in...do they mean like an essy or report ot what? and do you do many essays and written reports? :biggrin: cheers :smile:

I'm a physical NatSci who took a bio option (cells) last year. We had to do about 1 essay a week for that- but it's a science essay not an English essay. In other words, there's no forming an argument and all that sort of stuff, just writing down 1500 words on for example functions of the cell membrane (with diagrams).
I hate science essays. Every essay question essentially boils down to "write down everything you know about ____ ". Completely takes the fun out of writing.
Reply 5352
Hi everyone,

As you can see in my sig, I applied to read Computer Science (with Physics). I applied to Cambridge because of the flexibility of the tripos system. So in my first year I would be studying 25% Maths (same as NatScis), 25% Physics (same as NatScis) and 50% Computer Science.

I am really interested in Computer Science and looking forward to starting in october. The thing is, do you know if DoSs usually say no to transfers between tripos (mine would to Physics)? I am absolutely not sure I want to transfer after next year, but I've read that everywhere says "at the discretion of the college and DoSs".

So that would be my question. Do they usually accept or sometimes say no?

Thanks
Reply 5353
Assuming you do physics in the first year, and can make a reasonable case for switching, it should be quite straightforward.
EmUIbA
Hi everyone,

As you can see in my sig, I applied to read Computer Science (with Physics). I applied to Cambridge because of the flexibility of the tripos system. So in my first year I would be studying 25% Maths (same as NatScis), 25% Physics (same as NatScis) and 50% Computer Science.

I am really interested in Computer Science and looking forward to starting in october. The thing is, do you know if DoSs usually say no to transfers between tripos (mine would to Physics)? I am absolutely not sure I want to transfer after next year, but I've read that everywhere says "at the discretion of the college and DoSs".

So that would be my question. Do they usually accept or sometimes say no?

Thanks


Definitely one of the easier transfers.
Reply 5355
Thanks alot, Scipio90 and BigFudamental. I was afraid DoSs were stricter and didn't want to lose/get students.
Reply 5356
A question to all NatScientists: the colleges that want school essays or project work for admissions procedure... what if one has no project work or essay (this is for bionatsci that is). I'm confused? :confused:

aaand how, other than expressing interest and passion and further reading, can one show interest on a Natsci personal statement?
cuz i heard work experience isn't really usefull. that so? cuz there's a neurology facility near where i live where i'm interested in shadowing for a while . hmmm :biggrin:

advice appreciated! :smile: :biggrin:
Amahia11

aaand how, other than expressing interest and passion and further reading, can one show interest on a Natsci personal statement?
cuz i heard work experience isn't really usefull. that so? cuz there's a neurology facility near where i live where i'm interested in shadowing for a while . hmmm :biggrin:

advice appreciated! :smile: :biggrin:


If you're interested and have the opportunity you should do that anyway because all work experience is good experience, and other unis that don't share Cambridge's grades-only tunnel vision will probably be impressed. Don't worry too much about beefing up your personal statement for Cambridge, they'll skim through it and might make some polite chit chat about it but they don't really care.
Reply 5358
Can anyone tell me exactly what sort of stuff is covered by the Maths A course? I'd rather not take the biological maths course as I didn't much enjoy stats that much at A level, but I'm terrible at mechanics and I assume that the Maths A course would be very physicsy.
Skittle
Can anyone tell me exactly what sort of stuff is covered by the Maths A course? I'd rather not take the biological maths course as I didn't much enjoy stats that much at A level, but I'm terrible at mechanics and I assume that the Maths A course would be very physicsy.


http://www.maths.cam.ac.uk/undergrad/nst/schedules.pdf

There's not much mechanics in maths a/b because you do that in physics. It's basically just methods, with a couple of physicsy examples.

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