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Reply 5780
sirensinging
While I am entirely against studying for a test/exam, imho, I think you're at the stage where it's probably going to be one of the best things you can do. So maybe try familiarising yourself with the kind of language (structure) in the TSA, especially the critical thinking problems. So maybe try reading critical thinking textbooks and things like that, and get used to writing essays, because there is a time limit, and it'll be more difficult for you since English isn't your first language.

But it sounds like you'll do well, so don't stress too much, hard as it is not to :smile:


Well, I hope so.:wink:
Since I talked to a person, whom I met at Tuesday, who had done the TSA for engineering at Cambridge, who told me that he did nothing in preparing for the test, I´m more relaxed.

How did you prepare for the topics of the essay? I mean I´ve thought about a few philosophical problems, like for example constructivism, but I´m far away from knowing most of the main issues, which begs the question: How should I answer porblems like "Is forgiveness always right?", which I´ve never thought before, in 30min?

And which kind of questions do applicants normally get at the interview? What topics do I have to prepare, for example should I focus more on current affairs or on political philosophy?

Which collage would you recommand and can I find stats about colleges´ admissions figures?

Thanks a lot for responding to my questions, it helps a lot.:smile:
Hi, been on here after quite some time I reckon! :smile:
I was invited for interview last year but rejected afterwards. Currently debating whether to reapply to Oxford, let alone for PPE. However. I have 5A's at A level, but no A*s. This includes History, for which A*s are not awarded. To be honest, I performed very well in my AS exams but not so well in my A2 exams. Do you think that my lower UMS scores are likely to lead to a pre-interview rejection?
TsarinaMeg
Hi, been on here after quite some time I reckon! :smile:
I was invited for interview last year but rejected afterwards. Currently debating whether to reapply to Oxford, let alone for PPE. However. I have 5A's at A level, but no A*s. This includes History, for which A*s are not awarded. To be honest, I performed very well in my AS exams but not so well in my A2 exams. Do you think that my lower UMS scores are likely to lead to a pre-interview rejection?

Oxford doesn't ask for any UMS scores, so that won't bother you. No A*s isn't ideal but having five A-levels on the other hand is positive point.
Wheter you should reapply is a difficult question. Are you starting another course or taking a gap year? If you're going to uni, reapplying tends to be quite a hassle and not many people do it or make it in. If you're taking a gap year (and don't have a place for deferred entry, in which case you're not allowed to apply) you'll have to make an application anyway so might as well include Oxford, as long as you're not too fussed about giving up one choice.
Reply 5783
elieshout
Oxford doesn't ask for any UMS scores, so that won't bother you. No A*s isn't ideal but having five A-levels on the other hand is positive point.
Wheter you should reapply is a difficult question. Are you starting another course or taking a gap year? If you're going to uni, reapplying tends to be quite a hassle and not many people do it or make it in. If you're taking a gap year (and don't have a place for deferred entry, in which case you're not allowed to apply) you'll have to make an application anyway so might as well include Oxford, as long as you're not too fussed about giving up one choice.


Really? You're not allowed to apply for undergraduate study at Oxford after taking a year out unless having secured deferred entry?
JoshW7
Really? You're not allowed to apply for undergraduate study at Oxford after taking a year out unless having secured deferred entry?

No, sorry, I was probably unclear: you're not allowed to apply for anything if you have a place for deferred enty.
TsarinaMeg
Hi, been on here after quite some time I reckon! :smile:
I was invited for interview last year but rejected afterwards. Currently debating whether to reapply to Oxford, let alone for PPE. However. I have 5A's at A level, but no A*s. This includes History, for which A*s are not awarded. To be honest, I performed very well in my AS exams but not so well in my A2 exams. Do you think that my lower UMS scores are likely to lead to a pre-interview rejection?

A*s are not awarded in History?!
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A*s are not awarded in History?!


They are for all A level subjects, dunno where that one came from.
Andy the Anarchist
They are for all A level subjects, dunno where that one came from.

I was wondering whether she was talking about some special board because I'm pretty sure there were A*s in History this year at my school...!
Reply 5788
I've got my remark result, History has gone up to an A. So A's in: Maths, History, Economics and Politics. I'm still unsure as to what to do study at uni. Does anyone have access to previous TSA papers(apart from the ones on their site)? I'm pretty sure my GCSEs and AS will not count for much but the TSA will, so maybe if I do well in the mock tests, I might give it a go and see if I can get an interview. :/
Reply 5789
Hi I'm a student going into year 11. I realise it's a little early to be thinking about all this but the idea of PPE seems like the only interesting degree to me. So I was wondering; is it really that hard to get into Oxford? Someone told me it was the most competitive degree?

Also I have to pick my a levels soon. If I were to pursue this, would I need 1/2 of the subjects included in PPE? Or could I just take Maths, History and two others? I hear Phil/Pol is a soft option :s-smilie:
badadada
Hi I'm a student going into year 11. I realise it's a little early to be thinking about all this but the idea of PPE seems like the only interesting degree to me. So I was wondering; is it really that hard to get into Oxford? Someone told me it was the most competitive degree?

Also I have to pick my a levels soon. If I were to pursue this, would I need 1/2 of the subjects included in PPE? Or could I just take Maths, History and two others? I hear Phil/Pol is a soft option :s-smilie:


Actually, it's not the most competitive degree. I had a document a while ago (on another computer, so idk where to find it now), but in 2008 PPE was ranked something like 5th in terms of number of applicants per place. EEM and E&M were the most competitive, if that's what you mean. Though admittedly there are way more PPE places offered.

And according to Oxford:
You may apply for PPE having done any combination of subjects at school; it is not necessary to have studied politics, philosophy or economics. History and Mathematics are useful backgrounds, but are not essential.
TsarinaMeg
Hi, been on here after quite some time I reckon! :smile:
I was invited for interview last year but rejected afterwards. Currently debating whether to reapply to Oxford, let alone for PPE. However. I have 5A's at A level, but no A*s. This includes History, for which A*s are not awarded. To be honest, I performed very well in my AS exams but not so well in my A2 exams. Do you think that my lower UMS scores are likely to lead to a pre-interview rejection?

If it helps you decide, I got 4A's this year and I'm doing PPE at Hertford...

Tbh, if they're asking for 3A's then you have every chance of getting in as you have already met and exceeded their offer. Can't help to give it a try.

Did you get feedback from your tutors re: why you were rejected?
Reply 5792
sirensinging
Actually, it's not the most competitive degree. I had a document a while ago (on another computer, so idk where to find it now), but in 2008 PPE was ranked something like 5th in terms of number of applicants per place. EEM and E&M were the most competitive, if that's what you mean. Though admittedly there are way more PPE places offered.

And according to Oxford:
You may apply for PPE having done any combination of subjects at school; it is not necessary to have studied politics, philosophy or economics. History and Mathematics are useful backgrounds, but are not essential.


Ah really? Not too bad then :o:

And yeah, I read that on the website but what's preferable? Like to maximise my chances?
Thanks :smile:
badadada
Ah really? Not too bad then :o:

And yeah, I read that on the website but what's preferable? Like to maximise my chances?
Thanks :smile:

Maths. Take Maths. If you can get an A in it, take it absolutely for sure. There are nasty Ec tutors out there who make a big deal out of it.
Other than that, History is good, obviously because they reccomend it. Then you could take any of the branches of PPE at A-level (although I remember reading RS is looked on more favourably than Philosophy, not sure though) and any science or otherwise acadamic subject. Make sure there's at least one essay-based subject in your mix.
badadada
Ah really? Not too bad then :o:

And yeah, I read that on the website but what's preferable? Like to maximise my chances?
Thanks :smile:

like elieshout said, Maths is probably good. They seemed to like that I was doing Maths HL in IB, while the others I interviewed with said they struggled on the maths questions we got during the Econ interview. Beyond that, I'm not sure...
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A*s are not awarded in History?!


Well, I did Edexcel A2 History and we don't get awarded A*s because of the coursework unit. I was surprised as well, I was really upset I didn't get an A* for History, and it was my history teacher who said "oh don't worry, there aren't any A*s for History."

He could be wrong, but that wouldn't make a very good teacher out of him would it now? :s-smilie:

Hmm... I'm off to investigate...
TsarinaMeg
Well, I did Edexcel A2 History and we don't get awarded A*s because of the coursework unit. I was surprised as well, I was really upset I didn't get an A* for History, and it was my history teacher who said "oh don't worry, there aren't any A*s for History."

He could be wrong, but that wouldn't make a very good teacher out of him would it now? :s-smilie:

Hmm... I'm off to investigate...

Hmm...that's interesting...

Why would c/w mean you don't get A*s?

Let me know what you find out!
elieshout
Oxford doesn't ask for any UMS scores, so that won't bother you. No A*s isn't ideal but having five A-levels on the other hand is positive point.
Wheter you should reapply is a difficult question. Are you starting another course or taking a gap year? If you're going to uni, reapplying tends to be quite a hassle and not many people do it or make it in. If you're taking a gap year (and don't have a place for deferred entry, in which case you're not allowed to apply) you'll have to make an application anyway so might as well include Oxford, as long as you're not too fussed about giving up one choice.


sorry, do you mean IS ideal?? :p:
Thanks... I really want to apply for PPE but it's so competitive. I have an A for A2 Maths, but literally barely scraping by, simply because my C4 unit was a D :eek: If I can revise more econ-focused maths, and I do reasonably well at answering the mathsy question at interview, is there any reason for me to resit?

I am taking a gap year- I rejected an offer from Sheffield for it, because at the time I really wanted to try for Oxford again. Now I'm wondering if that was a big mistake... :frown:

Also are there any less maths-y colleges? Or are they mostly all the same?
TsarinaMeg
sorry, do you mean IS ideal?? :p:
Thanks... I really want to apply for PPE but it's so competitive. I have an A for A2 Maths, but literally barely scraping by, simply because my C4 unit was a D :eek: If I can revise more econ-focused maths, and I do reasonably well at answering the mathsy question at interview, is there any reason for me to resit?

I am taking a gap year- I rejected an offer from Sheffield for it, because at the time I really wanted to try for Oxford again. Now I'm wondering if that was a big mistake... :frown:

Also are there any less maths-y colleges? Or are they mostly all the same?

She meant not having any A*s is not ideal for reapplication...but don't worry too much about that!

I don't think you should resit - that wouldn't look too good, particularly because Oxford don't ask to see UMS in the first place.

You've rejected the offer from Sheffield now so just look forward. You still have all of these opportunities so go for it. Best of luck with your reapplication!

I think the colleges are generally the same. I mean, I'd heard that Univ was a maths-y college but the Econ interview didn't have any straight maths questions like other colleges did. I don't think you can tell exactly what you'll get till you get there...by interview period, though, you just have to make sure you're on top of the basics!
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Hmm...that's interesting...

Why would c/w mean you don't get A*s?

Let me know what you find out!


Because your teachers and others help you significantly in writing it and it's not "fair". I don't really see that as a valid argument, but hmm. :s-smilie:
I haven't been able to find anything from the official websites so I'm resorting to forming a thread on this...

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