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Reply 1580
jbruner17
The average of all applying candidates for PPE last year was around 31-32/50. The average applicant gets rejected, so there's certainly room for improvement, but it's not outright bad.



Thanks, does anyone know if there are any similar tests I can practice, or any way in which I can improve? A lot of the questions I got wrong, I don't think I'd fall for again but there's only one mock :s-smilie:
Reply 1581
Hi all,

I am aplying to oxford this year for PPE, probably to Keble - was hoping to re-kindle discussion for those about to go through the interview proccess come sebtember-november time! is anyone starting to do any work towards it already or is it just exams exams exams (i am about to sit A-levels personally, got rejected last year but got a letter recomending i re-apply, plus i wanted a gap year so happy days! second choice will be warrick, which would be good too no doubt, as its all pretty much oxford rejects for PPE :P).
Background reading anyone?
ANYONE in the same boat as me?
Good luck to all with revision at the moment - i am utterly ncapable of working until about week before exams start...oh well :smile:
Reply 1583
chillipepperUK
Hi all,

I am aplying to oxford this year for PPE, probably to Keble - was hoping to re-kindle discussion for those about to go through the interview proccess come sebtember-november time! is anyone starting to do any work towards it already or is it just exams exams exams (i am about to sit A-levels personally, got rejected last year but got a letter recomending i re-apply, plus i wanted a gap year so happy days! second choice will be warrick, which would be good too no doubt, as its all pretty much oxford rejects for PPE :P).
Background reading anyone?
ANYONE in the same boat as me?
Good luck to all with revision at the moment - i am utterly ncapable of working until about week before exams start...oh well :smile:



Well, I'm doing a lot of reading (attempting about 2 books a week) on top of revision, and am having a look at the aptitude test, trying some of the essay questions.

But from what I know you can only prepare to a certain degree, and at any rate a lot of the preparation is certainly just indulging my intrests in the subjects themselves, and that is apparently what they look for.

So the advice I've been given which I'll pass on, is keep up to date on issues, form opinions on them, and indulge your intrest in the subject through reading books related to it that interest you yourself

Sorry if that's not much help, I'm just a Year 12 working semi-obsessively, but hope it helped in some small way

-Guy
That is a lot of reading/preparation you've been doing there.

Preparation is good but over-preparation is not. Focus on getting good grades now and then once exams are over you can start really getting down to business. Personally I didn't start preparing as such until late August/September and up until then I was just doing a little reading out of pure interest in the subject.
Reply 1585
True, it is a lot, but I do it just as much because I'm interested in the subjects as because I want to do PPE, quite frankly I don't expect to get in, although I'll try my very hardest, but I find the stuff I'm reading much more interesting that the actual schoolwork itself. Also, a lot of it can be used in debating which is one of my interests.

I am revising a lot too, but the reading is in addition to this, make no mistakes, grades obviously come first - this is just in addition when I find the time/have free periods and no homework etc etc

Also, the fact I'm doing this stuff gives me a focus which motivates me to actually work at school which means I'm more likely to get the grades so in a roundabout way it's helping

But thanks for the advie, I'll be sure to prioritise :smile:

-Guy
Mock interviewing will be way more helpful than background reading. Clear thinking is much more important than background knowledge for the interview, and it'll take practice for you to be articulate and lucid in front of an interviewer. Also, the interviewer is most interested in how "teachable" you are, so outright knowledge of any particular thing will most likely not help you.
jbruner17
Mock interviewing will be way more helpful than background reading. Clear thinking is much more important than background knowledge for the interview, and it'll take practice for you to be articulate and lucid in front of an interviewer. Also, the interviewer is most interested in how "teachable" you are, so outright knowledge of any particular thing will most likely not help you.

Where does one get mock interviewing though?
Reply 1588
jbruner17
Mock interviewing will be way more helpful than background reading. Clear thinking is much more important than background knowledge for the interview, and it'll take practice for you to be articulate and lucid in front of an interviewer. Also, the interviewer is most interested in how "teachable" you are, so outright knowledge of any particular thing will most likely not help you.



But isn't that helped a lot by the debating I do?

But thanks - I'm definitely going to sort some out, but after my A-levels

-Guy
Reply 1589
jbruner17
Mock interviewing will be way more helpful than background reading. Clear thinking is much more important than background knowledge for the interview, and it'll take practice for you to be articulate and lucid in front of an interviewer. Also, the interviewer is most interested in how "teachable" you are, so outright knowledge of any particular thing will most likely not help you.

I definitely found the reading I had done to be of much more use than any mock interviews - one of the philosophy questions was simply to discuss something I had read about and if I had not done reading then I would've been screwed, whereas my actual interview was nothing like my mock one. Just personal experience though of course
I had one mock interview which was nothing like the real thing, contrary to what some 'specialist' interview firms might say.
Reply 1591
It's very hard to get someone who is actually capable of giving you a good mock interview. if you do arrange some, try to get people who have studied the relevant subjects at university, and make clear that the focus should be purely academic and focused on specific problems.

I would also recommend becoming really familiar with important books (like the Jonathan Wolff book) rather than just reading loads.
Reply 1592
Well the reading I'm doing is on reccomended books which give a good idea as to the basics of the school of thought so to speak

Eg. Das Kapital, On Liberty, The Social Contract etc etc

I'm trying to only read things that are relevant, and am mkaing sure it all sinks in by making notes

As for mock interviews, I was thinking the relevant Politics, Philosophy and Economics teachers in my school, plus possibly the English teacher who does debating as she is an extremely good arguer and so would certainly keep me on my feet (figuratively at least)

Although you obviously don't know these people, is this in general the best strategy, and indeed if there is an abundance of teachers (I can count 5 or 6) should I try and practice as much as possible?


And on a sidenote, sorry about the continuous questions - I just really don't want to miss a trick with regards to any preparation I can do alongside getting the grades - So thank you very much as well

-Guy
Reply 1593
I wouldn't bother reading Das Kapital, or even secondary material on it. It's a sort of obscure cul-de-sac in the history of economic thought.

Although you obviously don't know these people, is this in general the best strategy, and indeed if there is an abundance of teachers (I can count 5 or 6) should I try and practice as much as possible?

yes. but really do try to arrange things so that the interviews are of a good quality.
lol_wut
I wouldn't bother reading Das Kapital, or even secondary material on it. It's a sort of obscure cul-de-sac in the history of economic thought.


Dr Lawrence Klein (1970 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics), who is, in no way a Communist, would disagree. His works about the impact of Marx on mainstream economics are fascinating.
GuyM
Well the reading I'm doing is on reccomended books which give a good idea as to the basics of the school of thought so to speak

Eg. Das Kapital, On Liberty, The Social Contract etc etc

I'm trying to only read things that are relevant, and am mkaing sure it all sinks in by making notes

As for mock interviews, I was thinking the relevant Politics, Philosophy and Economics teachers in my school, plus possibly the English teacher who does debating as she is an extremely good arguer and so would certainly keep me on my feet (figuratively at least)

Although you obviously don't know these people, is this in general the best strategy, and indeed if there is an abundance of teachers (I can count 5 or 6) should I try and practice as much as possible?


And on a sidenote, sorry about the continuous questions - I just really don't want to miss a trick with regards to any preparation I can do alongside getting the grades - So thank you very much as well

-Guy


A good way to prepare for interview is to film yourself trying to answer questions that they could ask you... and then you can see how you did, or even ask someone who doesn't know a thing (then they can see of you explain well what you think, give clear arguments. etc
Reply 1596
thegluups
I just got rejected from Oxford, didn't even make it through to the interview ... Does anyone know if it's worth applying again? Is a second go worth it?

thegluups, how do you have an offer from Cambridge if you get rejected from Oxford for PPE this year?
~Ollie~
thegluups, how do you have an offer from Cambridge if you get rejected from Oxford for PPE this year?


I study in France, and I wanted to do the Double Maitrise at Cambridge (french uni and cambridge) so I had to apply the french way, and i couldn't apply through UCAS.
Basically, next year I'll be , on paper, a student at both Assas(french Uni) and Cambridge.

That's why I could apply to Oxford at the same time.

PS : if i could have applied to Cambridge through UCAS, i would have applied there, and not to Oxford, but since i had to apply through France, i figured i'd try oxford as well
Reply 1598
thegluups
I study in France, and I wanted to do the Double Maitrise at Cambridge (french uni and cambridge) so I had to apply the french way, and i couldn't apply through UCAS.
Basically, next year I'll be , on paper, a student at both Assas(french Uni) and Cambridge.

That's why I could apply to Oxford at the same time.

PS : if i could have applied to Cambridge through UCAS, i would have applied there, and not to Oxford, but since i had to apply through France, i figured i'd try oxford as well

Oh right, just curious. How come you applied for such a different subject, rather than law at oxford also?
~Ollie~
Oh right, just curious. How come you applied for such a different subject, rather than law at oxford also?


I wanted to do something "international", and with ppe i could do international relations.
I'd like to specialise in international crime .. and you can do that with very different uni diplomas ..
the great thing with that law course, is that I'm half and half (British and French) so getting a diploma from both countries is great otherwise, i probably wouldn't have wanted to do a straight law degree

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