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    (Original post by Baki)
    Thats too bad, if you did, and you didn't qualify for the MBBS 5 year course, you get automatically put into the 6 year course.
    sometimes I think I'd have had a better chance of getting in if I'd upped and moved to the worst inter city area possible, enrolled at the worst school, then invested in private tutors. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by lekky)
    sometimes I think I'd have had a better chance of getting in if I'd upped and moved to the worst inter city area possible, enrolled at the worst school, then invested in private tutors. :rolleyes:
    Well for a 6 year course, at the interview stage there's more competiton.

    Only 1/3 chance of getting an offer rather than the usual 1/2 chance of getting an offer. :p:
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    (Original post by Baki)
    Well for a 6 year course, at the interview stage there's more competiton.

    Only 1/3 chance of getting an offer rather than the usual 1/2 chance of getting an offer. :p:
    interview is my strong point though
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    My opinion is that if you meet a certain universities entry requirements/admissions policy, then you have a good chance of getting into their medical school, regardless of your ethnicity. Am I wrong?
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    (Original post by lekky)
    interview is my strong point though
    Thats what you think.

    (Original post by hawflo)
    My opinion is that if you meet a certain universities entry requirements/admissions policy, then you have a good chance of getting into their medical school, regardless of your ethnicity. Am I wrong?
    No, you are not wrong.

    As long as you are a good candidate, that is all that matters.
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    (Original post by Baki)
    Thats what you think.
    lol yes, that's true, but I think it's part of the advantage that comes with being a little older, you have had more actual job interviews & more practice generally. I've also had 2 medical interview styled interviews for work experience placements which seem to have gone well and I was successful with. So yup it is purely my opinion but if anything I certainly don't fear interviews nor do I think that my interview would destroy my application.
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    (Original post by lekky)
    lol yes, that's true, but I think it's part of the advantage that comes with being a little older, you have had more actual job interviews & more practice generally. I've also had 2 medical interview styled interviews for work experience placements which seem to have gone well and I was successful with. So yup it is purely my opinion but if anything I certainly don't fear interviews nor do I think that my interview would destroy my application.
    How old are you (if you don't mind me asking)?
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    (Original post by Baki)
    Thats too bad, if you did, and you didn't qualify for the MBBS 5 year course, you get automatically put into the 6 year course.
    You don't automatically get put into it, you are just eligable for it.

    (Original post by lekky)
    sometimes I think I'd have had a better chance of getting in if I'd upped and moved to the worst inter city area possible, enrolled at the worst school, then invested in private tutors. :rolleyes:
    Most people eligable for these schemes do not have the money for private tutors and aren't playing the system. I'm extremely grateful to Kings and places like it who have made it possible for people from schools like mine to get into medical school.

    I would have gladly swapped my crap school for a better one, but I didn't get in to any. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by vas876)
    They way they treat applicants from non-selective low preforming state schools who have excellent academia and personal statements.
    I fit into that category exactly and wasn't treated unfairly in any way. So apart from anecdotes, of which their will be examples for both sides, what evidence do you actually have to back up your statement?
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    (Original post by jonnyofengland)
    I fit into that category exactly and wasn't treated unfairly in any way. So apart from anecdotes, of which their will be examples for both sides, what evidence do you actually have to back up your statement?
    What is your version of low performing?
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    (Original post by vas876)
    What is your version of low performing?
    A community college specialising in Media Studies, with no selectiveness of any kind.

    I just looked up them on the league table and they have 57% of pupils getting 5 A*-C Grades at GCSE (39% with two sciences), which granted is a lot higher than i was expecting.
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    (Original post by jonnyofengland)
    A community college specialising in Media Studies, with no selectiveness of any kind.

    I just looked up them on the league table and they have 57% of pupils getting 5 A*-C Grades at GCSE (39% with two sciences), which granted is a lot higher than i was expecting.
    Unfortunately that does not count as a low preforming school.

    The definition is less than 45%, well below the NA
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    (Original post by vas876)
    Unfortunately that does not count as a low preforming school.

    The definition is less than 45%, well below the NA
    The percentage for my school is 37% and in the year I got my GCSE's only 28% got 5+A*-C (and equivalent) including English and maths.

    Even though I applied for widening access schemes (as I met the criteria) I also applied for standard entry. Yes I got rejected, but not because of inherent bias.

    In my interviews and any contact i've had with medical schools (and not just those with specific widening access courses) i've never received or heard of anyone who was made to feel different.

    Just another anecdotal story that proves nothing.
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    Oh my god I did not realise I go to the worst sixth form in Lambeth and I went to the worst secondary school in Lambeth. LOL
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    (Original post by vas876)
    2008 Entry

    Total Applicants for Medicine & Dentistry (applicants 20 and under) = 11,932

    White(Total) = 7,162
    Black(Total) = 495
    Asian(Total) = 3,304
    Mixed(Total) = 427
    Other&Unknown(Total) = 544

    The Above Stats are only for applicants 20 and under (the majority)

    I also know the Socio-Economic groups and the breakdown of the Ethnicity and Ethnic Origin within each of the main groups above. E.G 2,617(36.5%) of all white applicants come from families in the Highest Socio-Economic Group, and 127(25.6%) of all Black applicants are from families in the highest Socio-Economic group.

    Total Applicants from Highest Socio-Economic group from 2008 Entry were 4,020(34%) (20 and Under)
    That's me :p:

    I love refusing to declare ethnicity et al on forms.
    If not such refusal to declare box exists I write Cornish :p:
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    (Original post by vas876)
    They way they treat applicants from non-selective low preforming state schools who have excellent academia and personal statements.

    Its practically a fact, almost zero Cambridge students fit into the category above. From my own experience this year i have seen 9 students at my school and local schools receive 4 offers from High preforming universities to be rejected from cambridge and oxford after interview and no real reason being provided.

    And competition at Oxbridge is roughly equal to that of Imperial and LSE.
    Explanation - they did worse at interview than the other candidates.

    I fit into the non-seletive low performing state schools bracket and had an awful CV but got in due toa strong interview performance.
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    (Original post by crazylemon)
    If not such refusal to declare box exists I write Cornish :p:
    Don't you mean "fruit"?
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    (Original post by crazyferret)
    Don't you mean "fruit"?
    Nope :p:
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    (Original post by Madprof)
    What's your evidence for Oxford and Cambridge being elitist and dishonest??
    Elitist, yes. Dishonest, no. Anyway, what exactly is the nature of truth? What is the epistemological criterion or criteria for your proposed epithets?

    (Original post by vas876)
    They way they treat applicants from non-selective low preforming state schools who have excellent academia and personal statements.

    Its practically a fact, almost zero Cambridge students fit into the category above. From my own experience this year i have seen 9 students at my school and local schools receive 4 offers from High preforming universities to be rejected from cambridge and oxford after interview and no real reason being provided.

    And competition at Oxbridge is roughly equal to that of Imperial and LSE.
    That is not true. They are under-pressure to accept state school applicants. They probably wasn't very bright, or that they are, but there simply are not sufficient number of places for everybody qualified.

    I am from a state school and didn't have problems getting in... if you have the grades, and have a nearly flawless academic record and can outsmart your interviewers, you will get in.
 
 
 
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