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    (Original post by Svenjamin)
    It is? :confused:
    Ol' Winston Churchill himself was a eugenicist I believe.
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    (Original post by littleshambles)
    Ol' Winston Churchill himself was a eugenicist I believe.
    Well I guess we should be grateful not everyone decided to put their misguided ignorance into practise then.
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    In reality Nazi economic policy was quite unimpressive, Germany was already coming out of the depths of recession in 1933. The autobahns actually only employed about a hundred thousand people.

    As for 'social reform' - don't know of any evidence as to policies worthy of merit. They actually had a system of medals awarded to women depending on how many children they had. Hitler's refusal to bring women into the workforce like the allied powers had disasterous consequences for the German war machine.

    Apparently, their advancement of applifier technology for the Nuremberg rallies eventually had a massive effect on popular music though - see Stephen Fry's bbc documentary about it.
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    I think there have been worse governments.
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    (Original post by Svenjamin)
    It is? :confused:
    Was.

    As a social movement eugenics reached its height of popularity in the early decades of the 20th century. By the end of World War II eugenics had been largely abandoned,[3] though current trends in genetics have raised questions amongst critical academics concerning parallels between pre-war attitudes about eugenics and current "utilitarian" and social darwinistic theories[4].
    Eugenics was practiced around the world and was promoted by governments, and influential individuals and institutions. Its advocates regarded it as a social philosophy for the improvement of human hereditary traits through the promotion of higher reproduction of certain people and traits, and the reduction of reproduction of certain people and traits.
    Source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
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    good intentions...very bad way of doing it
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    (Original post by Shiny Dirt)
    good intentions...very bad way of doing it

    ...Nick Griffin is on tsr?! :eek3:
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    (Original post by littleshambles)
    Ol' Winston Churchill himself was a eugenicist I believe.
    Eugenics was far more popular with the left than the right at that time.
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    (Original post by Ekpyrotic)
    (1) There's no way to traverse Hume's guillotine, and (2) objectivity is not accessible to us.
    You're only saying this because you're not objective.
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    (Original post by Don_Scott)
    Eugenics was far more popular with the left than the right at that time.
    Care to elaborate?
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    (Original post by Gaishan)
    Care to elaborate?
    Many socialists like Woolf, for example, supported the eugenics movement.

    Many supported it on the right but most Christians (who tended to be more conservative) were against it.
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    (Original post by Heyjude)
    In reality Nazi economic policy was quite unimpressive, Germany was already coming out of the depths of recession in 1933. The autobahns actually only employed about a hundred thousand people.

    As for 'social reform' - don't know of any evidence as to policies worthy of merit. They actually had a system of medals awarded to women depending on how many children they had. Hitler's refusal to bring women into the workforce like the allied powers had disasterous consequences for the German war machine.

    Apparently, their advancement of applifier technology for the Nuremberg rallies eventually had a massive effect on popular music though - see Stephen Fry's bbc documentary about it.
    Finally someone talking sense, yeah his economics sucked balls on the social side as everything went towards the war effort. Guns vs Butter was a major part of Nazi economics, where its abundantly clear that military industry was put first. I dont think self sufficeny worked for them either, i cant remember who with but I think they were still importing rubber, and it got that bad that coffee subsititue was made from acorns.
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    (Original post by MancStudent098)
    Except this is what you said. If we take almost any regime in history and strip away the bad stuff we'll be left with some kind of good residue* This isn't some kind of breakthrough in objective history.








    *Except Mao Tse Tung, he did nothing good. Whatsoever. Plus he was fugly. Unmitigated failure all round.:yep:
    http://cnparm.home.texas.net/Nat/Chi...ng,%201911.JPG

    Beauty.
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    (Original post by Don_Scott)
    Many socialists like Woolf, for example, supported the eugenics movement.

    Many supported it on the right but most Christians (who tended to be more conservative) were against it.
    Thanks for the information. As I said above, it was popular in the early 20th century, now it has been banished to the fringe of politics.
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    They weren't that bad really...







    Oh **** off!
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    then again, i don't like the whole selective breeding, it's natural to be imperfect, and hitler not being blonde and blue-eyed himself is quite a contradiction...
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    He played with some very interesting branches of science, his scientists, not the Americans, got us to the moon. His doctors did also did a lot of research into the limits of human endurance. I believe there is much he looked into which hasn't either yet been fully released, ie is still classified (much of the technology embedded in current weapons programs can trace its ancestry back to Nazi technology), there was much of his research which was destroyed as the allies advanced, and there was more which was abandoned without its potential being realised.

    Warfare advances nations.
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    Hitler was a very good leader and did great things for Germany. Aside from that, he was a frickin' maniac and if you didn't tick enough of the boxes required to be considered a true German then you had a problem.
    He didn't approve of whispering either...
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    (Original post by Cj-Tj)
    Warfare advances nations.
    Warfare or lunacy?
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    (Original post by Don_Scott)
    Eugenics was far more popular with the left than the right at that time.
    Oh who ******* cares? Are you suggesting I am a eugenicist? Did I suggest that eugenics was solely a "right-wing" thing? Aren't you the kind of deeply unpleasant person who will probably spend hours arguing the Nazis were left-wing as if their place on the political spectrum is of any relevance to how evil they were anyway?

    Your comment is useless partisan mud-throwing and I will have no part in it.
 
 
 
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