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    Hi,
    Incase people haven't seen this on the ou forums or are not current students.
    The main points I suppose are that SXR103 will not be changed, level-2 residential schools will cease after 2011, level-3 residential schools will cease after 2012 and the current named degrees will be available until end of 2013.
    After this a new BSc (Hons) Natural Science with X will be available.
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    Been yet another update on the science curriculum. This one is mostly addressing the residential schools.
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    Heya,

    Just some thanks from a prospective student for flagging up these issues. Will look closer =)

    Looking smarter to place bets with the maths department then a physics one seeming in turmoil.
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    There's been another update to the Science Curriculum on the website. This time they have a solid proposal for the new science degree, which will be called Natural Sciences but allow students to specialise to their area of interest so it doesn't seem too bad. I'm still a little disappointed over the residential schools though.

    January 2010 update on science curriculum.
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    Ugh. I hope there will be plenty of room on those final residential schools as i plan going to one of em next year so i don"t end up with that Natural bloody science degree.
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    (Original post by Lunarsea)
    There's been another update to the Science Curriculum on the website. This time they have a solid proposal for the new science degree, which will be called Natural Sciences but allow students to specialise to their area of interest so it doesn't seem too bad. I'm still a little disappointed over the residential schools though.

    January 2010 update on science curriculum.
    I cant access that page without a log in. Id be very interested in reading it. Any chance of a quick copy and paste please?
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    (Original post by Spiffy)
    I cant access that page without a log in. Id be very interested in reading it. Any chance of a quick copy and paste please?
    Sorry I didn't realise it was a log in only document (I had someone else on another site post the link).

    See attached PDF. I tried copy and paste but it came out as a massive block of text that I couldn't be bothered to sort out. :p:
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  3. File Type: pdf Jan 2010 sci update.pdf (32.1 KB, 111 views)
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    (Original post by Lunarsea)
    Sorry I didn't realise it was a log in only document (I had someone else on another site post the link).

    See attached PDF. I tried copy and paste but it came out as a massive block of text that I couldn't be bothered to sort out. :p:
    Excellent stuff. Thanks for all your help
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    I'm planning to start an Environmental Science degree in october 2010, does anyone know if i will still be able to do it with the changes if they will happen in the middle of me doing it?
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    (Original post by ElleC)
    I'm planning to start an Environmental Science degree in october 2010, does anyone know if i will still be able to do it with the changes if they will happen in the middle of me doing it?
    on every course page it should tell you how long the course is expected to be available for, check there.
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    (Original post by morecambebay)
    on every course page it should tell you how long the course is expected to be available for, check there.
    It only has that for each individual course not the whole BSc :confused:
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    (Original post by ElleC)
    I'm planning to start an Environmental Science degree in october 2010, does anyone know if i will still be able to do it with the changes if they will happen in the middle of me doing it?
    I think that the Environmental Science degree will be affected by the changes as it is listed under the science degrees. Technically you will still be doing it as the new degree will allow you to specialise in what you want to study but it will be called Natural Science, though I think you could probably get away with writing Environmental Science on a CV. That has been recommended to people doing Open Degrees. But it might be worth getting in contact with the OU to ask if you can do that.
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    (Original post by Lunarsea)
    I think that the Environmental Science degree will be affected by the changes as it is listed under the science degrees. Technically you will still be doing it as the new degree will allow you to specialise in what you want to study but it will be called Natural Science, though I think you could probably get away with writing Environmental Science on a CV. That has been recommended to people doing Open Degrees. But it might be worth getting in contact with the OU to ask if you can do that.
    Ok thank you
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    graaargh... I've just realised, I'm not going to get to finish my molecular science degree if they take the project course away... got all my residentials planned though. bah, nuts. will have to wait and see
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    Those proposed changes are annoying. I would rather have a named degree such as Geoscience or Astronomy and Physics, etc, than a catch-all title such as Natural Science, although if the individual courses remain largely the same then maybe it won't make too much difference.
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    (Original post by Cerro_Azul)
    Those proposed changes are annoying. I would rather have a named degree such as Geoscience or Astronomy and Physics, etc, than a catch-all title such as Natural Science, although if the individual courses remain largely the same then maybe it won't make too much difference.
    Yes your that is a common issue for students not taking the current NatSci degree. I think we'd all like a named degree as the Nat Sci title is a little ambiguous but funding cuts mean the OU has to make cut backs. I suppose we should be happy that they can at least keep the science faculty.

    I think a lot of the courses will remain the same, although some courses are being phased out, some of them will be replaced with updated courses. If I see anything about courses being updated I will post it in this thread.

    The big problem is the residential schools if you have to do any. The level 1 residential science course will remain the same so no worries there, the level 2 resi courses are in their last presentation next year and the level 3 resi courses will have their last presentation in 2012. But if you don't mind getting the new degree there are practical courses being introduced for doing at home.
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    (Original post by Lunarsea)
    Yes your that is a common issue for students not taking the current NatSci degree. I think we'd all like a named degree as the Nat Sci title is a little ambiguous but funding cuts mean the OU has to make cut backs. I suppose we should be happy that they can at least keep the science faculty.

    I think a lot of the courses will remain the same, although some courses are being phased out, some of them will be replaced with updated courses. If I see anything about courses being updated I will post it in this thread.

    The big problem is the residential schools if you have to do any. The level 1 residential science course will remain the same so no worries there, the level 2 resi courses are in their last presentation next year and the level 3 resi courses will have their last presentation in 2012. But if you don't mind getting the new degree there are practical courses being introduced for doing at home.
    I definitely agree with you that it is better to have one big fat, but tailorable, degree than them to ditch the science faculty altogether. I guess this is symptomatic of funding cuts right across higher education.

    There were a couple of residential schools I was planning on doing - one of the geology field trips and Observing the Universe (as I am interested in doing Geoscience with a bias towards Planetary Science), but the only real concern I'd have with not being able to do those is the lack of 'laboratory time', as I'd be concerned with that being a disadvantage when looking for work after completing the degree.
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    (Original post by Cerro_Azul)
    I definitely agree with you that it is better to have one big fat, but tailorable, degree than them to ditch the science faculty altogether. I guess this is symptomatic of funding cuts right across higher education.

    There were a couple of residential schools I was planning on doing - one of the geology field trips and Observing the Universe (as I am interested in doing Geoscience with a bias towards Planetary Science), but the only real concern I'd have with not being able to do those is the lack of 'laboratory time', as I'd be concerned with that being a disadvantage when looking for work after completing the degree.
    Over on the OU science careers forum there was a post about gaining some lab experience.

    I've attached it to this message as I assume that it would be a log in part of the website which may not be available to some people on this thread. I thought it might be something that everyone worried about the residentials might be interested in.
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    Thanks Lunarsea, that's very helpful information.
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    There has been a new release by the physics department regarding the changes. It's not really "new" just a summary but it is helpful none the less. The end date for the physics degree may not apply to the other degrees (I read on a course forum that there may be similar posts to come from the other departments) and obviously you'd still need to do any compulsory residential schools before they are discontinued.

    The actual link is HERE but I will post the text here for any students/prospective students that can't access the website.

    Summary of imminent changes to Courses and Qualifications

    There has been an understandable degree of confusion recently concerning imminent changes to Science courses and qualifications. In the spirit of clarification, I will try to set out where we are with regard to Physical Science Courses.

    Qualifications

    * The existing BSc (Hons) Physical Science degree (B27) will finish at the end of 2014. If you've not made progress towards this already (by 2010) you are unlikely now to be able to accumulate sufficient points to claim it. Instead you should plan for:
    * A new BSc (Hons) Natural Science degree (B64) will likely be launched before the end of 2010. This will have both Physics and Astronomy recommended pathways through it. All existing science courses will be allowed to count towards the requirements of this degree.

    Practical Science

    * A Level 1 non-residential, practical science course, S155, has already launched.
    * The existing Level 2 residential school courses, SXR207 & SXR208, will both have final presentations in 2011.
    * The existing Level 3 residential school courses, SMXR358 & SMXR359, will have final presentations in 2011 and 2012 respectively.
    * The Level 3 project course, SXP390, is expected to continue for the forseeable future, with some revisions taking place over the next couple of years.
    * A new 30pt Level 2 Practical Science course, S288, is planned to launch in 2012. It will provide study options that will include site specific field, site specific laboratory and non-site specific practical experience, including Physics and Astronomy options.
    * S155 & S288 cannot count towards the 'old' B27 degree, but S155 or SXR103 plus S288 plus SXP390 will be compulsory for Physics or Astronomy routes through the 'new' B64 degree.

    Other Course changes

    * S207 is likely to undergo some updating but is planned to continue for the forseeable future.
    * S282 & S283 are likely to undergo some updating but are planned to continue for the forseeable future.

    Nomenclature

    Over the next few years some nomenclature changes will be phased in to bring the OU in line with other institutions:

    * 'Courses' are to be referred to as 'Modules'
    * 'Points' are to be referred to as 'Credits'
    * 'Awards' are to be referred to as 'Qualifications'

    Andrew Norton
    Physical Science Awards Director, May 2010
    There is also a Q&A document about the new degree that was posted on one of my course forums by a tutor. I can't post a link to it from there and I don't know where else to find it on the website so I've attached it to this post.

    I found it interesting anyway. :yes:
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