Hey there! Sign in to join this conversationNew here? Join for free

Should we have a universal "age of consent"? Watch

    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    Haha what is with:
    In Papua New Guinea, anal sex is illegal in all cases. The age of consent for vaginal sex is 16 for females and 14 for males.

    and there's one where men have to be 18 and women 15? What's with different ages for male and females haha? And what's with all the places allowing lesbian sex but not gay (male) sex?

    WTF?
    Offline

    14
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Melting Sugar.)
    Er so what about paedophilia then?
    What about it in what way?
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by A Stranger in Moscow)
    Haha what is with:
    In Papua New Guinea, anal sex is illegal in all cases. The age of consent for vaginal sex is 16 for females and 14 for males.

    and there's one where men have to be 18 and women 15? What's with different ages for male and females haha? And what's with all the places allowing lesbian sex but not gay (male) sex?

    WTF?
    Exactly, I have no idea how some of these countries decided upon these ages.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    The age of consent isn't there to lock up people who have sex under 16 but to protect them from sexual predators.

    E.g. how many underage teen pregnancies end up with a conviction?
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by cconstant)
    The age of consent isn't there to lock up people who have sex under 16 but to protect them from sexual predators.

    E.g. how many underage teen pregnancies end up with a conviction?
    I think we're all well aware of this, but it's a pretty good indication of what the state thinks about matters to do with sex and it's view on homosexuality.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by 35mm_)
    What about in countries where the age of consent is 20? Why do you think the state should dictate our bedroom lives? Surely a person should be able to decide for themselves when they're ready to have sex without having to (theoretically) wait a year or so to align with the law?

    I don't think there should be an age of consent, for the record.
    You have a good point but i suppose things like that are relative. it is probably the cultural norm to not have sex until you are around that age in *insert name of country*, maybe in a similar way the average age of having sex for the first time in the uk is 16 (so i hear.).

    I know that i am personally mature enough to not need an age restricion on when i should have sex, but i know that there are plenty of stupid kids that do. I think a legal age, if anything, at least provides a pause for thought for these kids, hopefully making them think twice before they do somthing they may later regret.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by cpj1987)
    What about it in what way?
    Without an age of consent it would make it legal to have sex with a child under 16, provided they give their consent. Perfect opportunity for paedophiles to groom small children and convince them sex is a game or some other twisted way to get them to do stuff far beyond what they should.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by 35mm_)
    I think we're all well aware of this, but it's a pretty good indication of what the state thinks about matters to do with sex and it's view on homosexuality.
    My point was that there is a need for an age of consent so that there is such thing as statutory rape.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Melting Sugar.)
    that's what he said :proud:

    consider my masculinity greatly compromised :'(
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by cconstant)
    My point was that there is a need for an age of consent so that there is such thing as statutory rape.
    There's no need for statutory rape; if somebody doesn't consent then it is rape, regardless of age.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by 35mm_)
    There's no need for statutory rape; if somebody doesn't consent then it is rape, regardless of age.
    But don't you think that a 12 year old shouldn't be able to consent her/himself. Don't you think they should have the protection of the sate?
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    An age of consent is most certainly necessary for preventing the sexual exploitation of children; whether a campaign to create a universal one could be orchestrated is another matter. Perhaps an appropiate age of consent for heterosexual sex would be 16? Deciding on the homosexual age of consent would be fraught with difficulties; many countries still do not recognise homosexual relationships as valid and not 'unnatural'.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by cconstant)
    But don't you think that a 12 year old shouldn't be able to consent her/himself. Don't you think they should have the protection of the sate?
    No. Children mature emotionally, physically and sexually at different times. If a child who happens to be 12 can consent with a comprehensive understanding of what they're doing, then I see no reason for the state to intervene. The freedom of sexual expression (and exploration) should be a fundamental right of an individual, regardless of age.

    It is also contrary to both justice and common sense for people who have merely had consensual sex with a teenager who happens to be under-16 (or whatever age) to be arrested and branded with a criminal label (‘statutory rapist’, ‘sex offender’), and thereby be treated on the same footing as rapists, murderers etc.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by 35mm_)
    No. Children mature emotionally, physically and sexually at different times. If a child who happens to be 12 can consent with a comprehensive understanding of what they're doing, then I see no reason for the state to intervene. The freedom of sexual expression (and exploration) should be a fundamental right of an individual, regardless of age.

    It is also contrary to both justice and common sense for people who have merely had consensual sex with a teenager who happens to be under-16 (or whatever age) to be arrested and branded with a criminal label (‘statutory rapist’, ‘sex offender’), and thereby be treated on the same footing as rapists, murderers etc.
    I think it's a given that the majority of 12 year olds would not have the necessary understanding to consent to sex in a meaningful way, especially when the other individual involved is much older than them (say 30) and the possibility for psychological manipulation and threats is much greater.

    The purpose of an age of consent is to protect vulnerable children from people who groom children for sex, not to protect underage teenagers from other underage teenagers, since acts like that, though technically illegal, are rarely brought to court.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Olivia_Lightbulb)
    An age of consent is most certainly necessary for preventing the sexual exploitation of children; whether a campaign to create a universal one could be orchestrated is another matter. Perhaps an appropiate age of consent for heterosexual sex would be 16? Deciding on the homosexual age of consent would be fraught with difficulties; many countries still do not recognise homosexual relationships as valid and not 'unnatural'.
    You mean natural right?
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by 35mm_)
    Why though? What's so evil about sex that kids need to be "deterred" from?
    its not evil, but there are consequences, which is quite apparent from our soaring teen pregnancy rate. i think any younger than 16/17 you're not mature enough to deal with the consequences.
    Offline

    3
    ReputationRep:
    I think it should be lowered, but not necessarily universal. We could do with lowering the age of sexual consent to 14 or 15 and porn participation and viewing to 16.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Liquidus Zeromus)
    I think it should be lowered, but not necessarily universal. We could do with lowering the age of sexual consent to 14 or 15 and porn participation and viewing to 16.
    Out of interest, why a higher age for porn participation/viewing?
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by cconstant)
    You mean natural right?
    No - within the context of that sentence I mean not unnatural, although the phrasing is somewhat clumsy.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Liquidus Zeromus)
    I think it should be lowered, but not necessarily universal. We could do with lowering the age of sexual consent to 14 or 15 and porn participation and viewing to 16.
    No 14 or 15 is too young. 16 is more appropiate. If only there was some way of banning porn ...
 
 
 
Reply
Submit reply
TSR Support Team

We have a brilliant team of more than 60 Support Team members looking after discussions on The Student Room, helping to make it a fun, safe and useful place to hang out.

Updated: July 14, 2009
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • Poll
    Would you like to hibernate through the winter months?
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

    Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

    Quick reply
    Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.