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    BMW 130 260bhp and still manages 35mpg! (Just about)

    whoops posted that twice sorry!
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    (Original post by cRaig)
    It only happened a few weeks ago, so nothing has been done to it yet. My estimate is currently at about 3 grands worth of damage.

    If you want to read a bit more about my little pug, I have a project thread on here
    Oooh, ill def keep taps on it :cool:
    Good luck with it. I have recently changed my car to a type r (ep3) and i love it. Those pics that i put up were done by the guy who was trying to sell the car. I'll have to put up some of mine own. Need to do abit of work on it for the moment though :p:.


    I heard in another thread you were thinking about changing your car? :eek:
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    I used to love my hot-hatches and did an almighty amount of research on them, as well as driven many.

    I think you can't really compare a 1990s hot-hatch to the hot-hatches of today firstly.

    Also, what is defined as the best hot-hatch? My interpretation is one that can out-handle pretty much the whole market, be absolutely raw, and one that has enough power to make you enjoy any moment. Step forward this lot.

    In chronological order:

    1) Golf GTI MK1
    2) Golf GTI MKII
    3) Pug 1.9 205 GTi / Clio Williams (can't decide between the two!)
    4) Pug 2.0 306 GTi-6 / Rallye
    5) Honda CTR MKI EP3

    As for the best hot hatch? Too hard. I could argue for every one of these cars. But I wouldn't vote the MKI Golf as 1st. Each of these cars above were a massive step in hot-hatch evolution. No modern hatches right now has done that since the CTR EP3.

    The VXR - can't handle. The ST225 Ford - Not remotely raw enough (although handles very well). The Golf GTi MKV - not powerful enough from a CTR EP3 which is quicker and a lot better.

    Other notable hatches: VTS Saxo; Megane R26 R; Escort Cosworth; Clio Williams; Lancia Delta.

    No BMW is worth its salt in this category.
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    Maestro turbo is awesome.
    205 with one of those turbo 16 engines.
    EK9 Civic
    Diahatsu Ciuro (No joke, 660cc turbo, 4x4, 10,000RPM)
    Starlet turbo
    Diahatsu charade turbo
    AE86
    106 GTI
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    (Original post by Né Stig)
    I used to love my hot-hatches and did an almighty amount of research on them, as well as driven many.

    I think you can't really compare a 1990s hot-hatch to the hot-hatches of today firstly.

    Also, what is defined as the best hot-hatch? My interpretation is one that can out-handle pretty much the whole market, be absolutely raw, and one that has enough power to make you enjoy any moment. Step forward this lot.

    In chronological order:

    1) Golf GTI MK1
    2) Golf GTI MKII
    3) Pug 1.9 205 GTi / Clio Williams (can't decide between the two!)
    4) Pug 2.0 306 GTi-6 / Rallye
    5) Honda CTR MKI EP3

    As for the best hot hatch? Too hard. I could argue for every one of these cars. But I wouldn't vote the MKI Golf as 1st. Each of these cars above were a massive step in hot-hatch evolution. No modern hatches right now has done that since the CTR EP3.

    The VXR - can't handle. The ST225 Ford - Not remotely raw enough (although handles very well). The Golf GTi MKV - not powerful enough from a CTR EP3 which is quicker and a lot better.

    Other notable hatches: VTS Saxo; Megane R26 R; Escort Cosworth; Clio Williams; Lancia Delta.

    No BMW is worth its salt in this category.
    I totally agree with you about this. The last good hatchback has to be the CTR EP3. Since then, all have disappointed. But some do look very sexy
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    (Original post by cRaig)
    Yeah, thats cool, get some pics up!

    Well, now the 205 needs alot spending on it, now would be a logical time to cut my losses and buy something else. Not sure I can go through the hassle of stripping down the 205 again and having it resprayed/rebuilt etc.

    Just been to look at the pics of your 205.. I feel so sorry for you! Looked clean as h3ll!
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    (Original post by jamlid)
    Just been to look at the pics of your 205.. I feel so sorry for you! Looked clean as h3ll!
    Thanks. She was fairly tidy

    Gah.. all you people make me want to fix it up again now :s
    I know I shouldnt.. its a crazy thing to do..
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    (Original post by cRaig)
    Thanks. She was fairly tidy

    Gah.. all you people make me want to fix it up again now :s
    I know I shouldnt.. its a crazy thing to do..
    No - don't bother if you've crashed it. I hear that many other things have gone. It's pretty darn hard to let go to these form of cars, but I had to as it was costing me serious amounts of money a year, which when pitted against a faster sports car, just didn't make economic sense.

    The crazy thing is, you learn so much from them because they are so unreliable. They have their cliquey way of being repaired which any old garage couldn't do. It took someone to understand the engine. Everytime you gunned it, you grinned the smile of a cheshire cat, but you knew it would cost you in the pocket if not immediately, but later on.

    Compared to a ST225 Focus where maintenance will be minimal, somehow bizarrely, it just won't be the same feeling.
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    for me, it has to be either a leon cupra (MK1) or any golf GTI/GTD/R32 or any civic R (especially the latest model, the one which looks like the USS enterprise at the front)

    (although the octavia VRS is a worthy second choice to the above)
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    (Original post by Né Stig)
    No - don't bother if you've crashed it. I hear that many other things have gone. It's pretty darn hard to let go to these form of cars, but I had to as it was costing me serious amounts of money a year, which when pitted against a faster sports car, just didn't make economic sense.

    The crazy thing is, you learn so much from them because they are so unreliable. They have their cliquey way of being repaired which any old garage couldn't do. It took someone to understand the engine. Everytime you gunned it, you grinned the smile of a cheshire cat, but you knew it would cost you in the pocket if not immediately, but later on.

    Compared to a ST225 Focus where maintenance will be minimal, somehow bizarrely, it just won't be the same feeling.

    Mm, I know its the right thing to do, but its still hard to part with what was esentially a mint 205. Ive got a 20,000 mile Mi16 engine sitting in my shed ready to make it nice and reliable.
    Plus it was my baby. The first car I bought for myself, first car I did any work on, me and my two best mates spend literally thousands of hours working on it. Seems a shame to throw it all away, even if the reality doesnt quite live up to things. Plus it is awesome when its working..
    I dunno. Sigh, sometimes I wish Id just crashed it a bit faster so it was a total wreck and beyond any kind of repair and I wouldnt have to decide.
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    I can't believe I forgot the Fiesta XR2...



    Both the MK1 and MK2 Fiesta XR2s are ACE



    Craig, I really do hope you fix the 205... I want to see it in the metal if you do
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    (Original post by cRaig)
    You can still come see it.. the drivers side is literally untouched, bar one scratch that will polish out. With new bumpers you could never tell from the drivers side
    Can you enter concourse with one side of your car only?!

    Cool fiestas btw.. if only they went around corners well..
    How much work would it be to replace the passenger side?

    Does it need welding for the repair, and are you able to weld?

    Let me know if theres anything I can help with to get it back on the road, I'm nearly at the paintwork stage on my Beetle, just getting excited about being able to drive it again...

    I've never driven a Fiesta faster enough to tell what the handling is like... and the MK2 one I drove squeaked from the dashboard EVERY time the steering wheel moved :mad:
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    (Original post by Rossshaw)
    Should hopefully be a good discussion fingers crossed haha.

    I like the Honda Civic Type R, lovely handling, very fast and comfotable.... not to mention absolutly stunning :cool:

    http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/lar...%20r|TypeR|CTR
    I have finally got to drive this car, just a quick test drive but I loved it. Amazing!
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    Craig.... stop dithering mate... get the readies together and get it sorted.

    Its never about the money with a hobby car. If it is, you're in the wrong game.
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    (Original post by cRaig)
    Well, it needs about 650quid worth of panels, a new rear quarter panel welding in, wing bolted/bonded on.
    New rear suspension (250-300quid)
    Two new alloys, 4 new tyres, New lights, boot, and then about half the car respraying.
    If I got the bodyhop to do the panel work and paint, and I did everything else, I cant see me getting change for 3 grand. Which is basically what the car is worth, and thats excluding the 6 Ive already spent on it.
    A nine thousand pound car? I think not..

    Buy a shell and reshell?

    Buy one off Pistonheads that's not in the best condition and combine the two?
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    http://pistonheads.com/sales/1124658.htm
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    (Original post by cRaig)
    Mm.. Thats been around for a week, been so very tempted. 700 quid as well. Utter bargain. Could take alot of stuff like the hubs, brakes off mine.. Soo tempting.. :s
    If you reckon your one is far too gone, then go for it

    I reckon you could probably make nearly the purchase price of that one back by breaking yours and selling the bits you don't want to swap over - but I have little idea of the price of 205 bits generally
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    Got to be the Escort RS Cosworth. No one will ever hate you for owning that car.
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    (Original post by Sir Galahad)
    Got to be the Escort RS Cosworth. No one will ever hate you for owning that car.
    wrong. everyone in an rs focus will hate you :laugh:
 
 
 
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