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    (Original post by izinku)
    I thinkkkkk I picked C for the pyramid one. Or B. Cant remember :confused:
    :ditto:
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    i guessed that last 5 questions lol not enough time
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    Wow, at least everyone else found it harder than the practice papers, so I'm not a total idiot. At least we all did **** together :king1: Completely ran out of time on the multiple-choice and guessed about 4 of them.

    Srsly have no clue how you can all remember the questions though, it's just a blur for me tbf.

    Did the reason/rationality essay, but I'm stressing out over it now. Started by talking about rationality in terms of economics & evolutionary theory (ie. incentive to maximise, survival of the fittest etc etc), then I somehow ended up questioning the nature of logic itself and concluded that I couldn't answer the question because there was no way of knowing any truth at all. Hopefully Oxford admissions tutors love the mentally unhinged :emo:
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    misread the granny one, tried to find out the longest amount of time she could have been away for without having a holiday. Im so stupid.

    Did the US invasion one

    1)Essentially an illegal war
    2)sets dangerous precident
    3)Cost more lives/cash thne we would save

    Although on reflection the old age one would have been better, i thought about doing it but the society part of the question got me worried that it would be too socialogical for me. My mind must have been scrambled from the multi-choices!

    Had no idea on the lorry driver ABCX one, how did u work that out???
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    I need to stop reading this thread. It's depressing finding out all the questions you got wrong...
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    (Original post by Clements-)
    Hopefully everyone will do so **** that they'll just have to interview us all as the results will clearly be way too unreliable
    Yeah, really they should^^ Would feel bad if they rejected you without actually *knowing* you...but sadly it's just because there's just 50 squillion applicants to Oxford :eek3:

    but nevertheless, let's not forget that the TSA is still only one part of you application adding to your marks in school as well as your statement and reference and I do believe that they might invite someone to interview who they just believe to be an interesting, interestED and unusual person. They can still reject anyone. I don't think they'll take you if you're just a robot who can beat a quad-core processor at sorting 200gigs of music (or porn) according to how often they listen/look at in in tibet <- please don't ask me where that thought came from :-P
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    Does anyone remember EXACTLY what the reason/rationality question was?
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    Guys, when are you all registering online to get the results? I have no idea when they're being released and you can only register 10 days before??
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    (Original post by Oldspeak)
    Guys, when are you all registering online to get the results? I have no idea when they're being released and you can only register 10 days before??
    IIRC they're released 15th Jan.
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    But it doesn't matter by then we will already know if we have a place or not :/
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    (Original post by Stashup)
    Yeah, really they should^^ Would feel bad if they rejected you without actually *knowing* you...but sadly it's just because there's just 50 squillion applicants to Oxford :eek3:

    but nevertheless, let's not forget that the TSA is still only one part of you application adding to your marks in school as well as your statement and reference and I do believe that they might invite someone to interview who they just believe to be an interesting, interestED and unusual person. I don't think they'll take you if you're just a robot who can beat a quad-core processor at sorting 200gigs of music (or porn) according to how often they listen/look at in in tibet <- please don't ask me where that thought came from :-P
    I'm sorry but no, unfortunetely. Especially considering that personal statements dont hold a lot of weight.
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    It was A lot of people can provide reasons for their actions. Does that mean their actions are rational?

    (I think)
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    I remember the question was phrased to be directed personally at the answerer, they definitely used 'you' not 'a lot of people' or a sentence.

    I think it might have been 'If you have reasons for your actions, does that mean your actions must be rational?' Or something along those lines.
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    (Original post by Schmuckle)
    I very much agree that this test is harder than previous years. A couple of questions such as the rowing machine one I skipped to go back to, and then it took me so long to work out when I was near to the end that I had to just guess.

    As for the one about the man's holidays, I got 25 days. If I recall correctly there were a MAXIMUM of 5 days that could be carried over each year, and he'd already used 5 days of holiday in the 10th year, so he only had the standard 25 days left. Can anyone confirm if they got anything similar?

    I also recall the lorry question.

    It looked a bit like this:

    A B c
    \ | /
    X

    and one of the routes was something like XABCBAX, so I reasoned that this couldn't be the shortest because you're needlessly going back on yourself when you've finished on C and could just go home.

    I did the interventionism essay:

    Introduction defining the concept. Could be claimed that Cold War conflicts e.g. Vietnam were H.Is, but really the term dates to post-Cold War conflicts e.g. Sierra Leone, Iraq.

    - the USA is a democracy, and there is a wide democratic mandate for the death penalty. This lessens the case for humanitarian intervention in this circumstance even if we disagree with the death penalty. 'Social Contract', with wide polling support for death penalty, etc.

    - Utilitarian argument - surely resources could be better used stopping greater harm to greater people, e.g. genocidal tyrants in africa

    - Cultural/moral relativism. If we practise humanitarian interventionism, even if it is acceptable, we could provoke Iran invading us for our toleration of homosexuals, or the USA for our healthcare system.

    Conclusion.
    Yeah it did seem harder,
    for the holiday question I think I got what you did,

    I also did the same essay, your points sounded good ...

    My essay was;

    Defined moral codes that dictate a societys decisions, distingushed between dentological religion derived ethicals from a Utilitarian objective standard,

    Then used the definition to define instances where humanitarian intervention is justified.

    Then considered coutner agruments, like "we're only not intervening becasue of the US' economic and military might"

    Then argued that under the ethics id defined humanitarian intervention wasn't justified in the case of the death penalty. Cited Mill's speech on capital punishement actually; it was lucky I remembered it.

    Concluded.
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    (Original post by marlowe92)
    Btw, it seems like the USA/international essay questions were totally different- did anyone else do question "X," whether it is "right" for the majority to always get their way?
    yeah they were definitely different..i was thinking about doing that one (i'm from the US as well) but decided on the one about science having limitations since we had just done the scientific revolution in AP euro
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    Is it just me who left questions blank rather than guess them? I got told it was a test to measure how you think rather than how many you got right, so if you got them completely wrong it just makes you look weird rather than anything else.
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    (Original post by PNEJOE)
    I did that one too!

    how did you do it? I did:

    Intro: defined humanitarian intervention
    para 1: said why ithink the death penalty is inhumane in terms of freedom
    2: put some arguments in favour of the death penalty forward and tried to defeat them
    3: talked about how the loss of life from an invaision would be far greater than that saved from getting rid of capital punishment
    4: talked about how its all hypothetical anyway cz europe couldnt win such a war so pragmatically ts a pointless situation
    5: talked about how europe might say they are using it as a threat to deter america from capital punishment....but thats one of th key arguments for the death penalty!
    conclusion
    I seem to have made identical points to you - bar the final point! I rambled a bit about the principle of whether state x has the right to intervene on laws in state y and whether there is truly a universal law that could govern all states.
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    (Original post by rmorrison12)
    Is it just me who left questions blank rather than guess them? I got told it was a test to measure how you think rather than how many you got right, so if you got them completely wrong it just makes you look weird rather than anything else.
    but the tutors wont get your paper they will just get a score once they have been marked by the computer! leaving answers blank is just ensuring 0 marks instead of 20% chance
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    (Original post by Buffyboy)
    Yeah it did seem harder,
    for the holiday question I think I got what you did,

    I also did the same essay, your points sounded good ...

    My essay was;

    Defined moral codes that dictate a societys decisions, distingushed between dentological religion derived ethicals from a Utilitarian objective standard,

    Then used the definition to define instances where humanitarian intervention is justified.

    Then considered coutner agruments, like "we're only not intervening becasue of the US' economic and military might"

    Then argued that under the ethics id defined humanitarian intervention wasn't justified in the case of the death penalty. Cited Mill's speech on capital punishement actually; it was lucky I remembered it.

    Concluded.
    ****. I wrote like, the exact same thing (with Mill's speech on Capital Punishment in mind), along with deontology and transcendental ethics. I also mentioned stuff like the EU would be assuming infallibility in their moral creed, which I believe to be analytically subjective, etc, and also included Nozick's critique of utilitarianism. I concluded with the fact that both entities are inherently democratic, and hence laws etc. are decided through reasoned debate, and not force, stating something about Thrasymacus'/Plato's 'Might is Right' version of justice.

    I guess great minds think alike, eh? :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by trollman)
    but the tutors wont get your paper they will just get a score once they have been marked by the computer! leaving answers blank is just ensuring 0 marks instead of 20% chance
    I'd have thought they'd get a marksheet so that when they're looking over your application they have something more substantial than just a score because then you could get some marks by guessing every question which would seem to undermine it.
    I don't know obviously but it seems odd to me if they just take a score.
 
 
 
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