So sorry for such a long thread....
EDIT: Really really sorry for such a horrificly long thread, started out just jotting down a few points, don't know where it all came from....
I wanted to start this thread really to demonstrate that it's not an unrealistic aim to try to be friends with someone when you're relationship has fallen apart and you break up. I recognise that to a certain degree it does depend what you break up over, but ultimately it's not out of reach.
Ok, I'll briefly describe by story from the beginning and then the recent events which lead me to starting this thread.....
Was with my ex-bf for 5 years until the end of january this year when I broke it off with him. It was for various on-going reasons really, he wouldn't come and visit me at uni, he wasn't supportive of my decision to move out of home, it was always me who had to comprimise, always me that had to do the running....and all these things really got to me, I'd tried talking to him about them ever since I'd started uni really, and he'd said things would change and they didn't....and I suppose it just ate away at the relationship until really the feelings I had for him began to change. I'd been thinking about breaking up with him for a while, but just couldn't decide if it was the right thing to do, didn't want to break up with him and realise it was the wrong decision....and so I suppose had been putting up with being unhappy just in case things changed.
Finally I realised that I just couldn't stay being unhappy and that the relationship was making me so unhappy....and it was affecting me so badly that I thought things really had to change...and seeing as my ex wasn't prepared to budge on anything, he really left me with no other choice. So, he phoned me one evening, I'd been thinking about it all that week, and so I tried to arrange a time to see him the next day when I was planning to break up with him...however he wouldn't let it rest what was wrong etc and kept asking me questions down the phone- I told him that he already knew what was wrong and raised all the various things that I'd already told him about and he still kept up the same familiar attitude of not wanting to change things. Anyway, I ended up saying that there was something I wanted to talk to him about, and he wouldn't let that rest.....so I ended up telling him over the phone that I didn't think we should be together anymore. I really didn't mean to, and didn't want it to happen that way, but I just felt he'd left me with no choice. Obviously he was very upset and tried to talk me out of it etc.....he was crying by this point...I stuck to my guns and tried to explain to him exactly how I was feeling and why I'd made this decision etc...anyway after about another half an hour we said our goodbyes, and I said I'd keep in touch etc, and that he could ring me if he needed to etc. The strange thing was that I didn't cry or anything and just felt strangely relieved...I suppose I'd been thinking about it for so long that I had kind of dealt with it already.
So that weekend he phoned me several times, wanting to meet up....which I really didn't want to do, mainly as I thought that it would make things worse for him. Anyway, he kept asking if he could see me, so I agreed to meet up with him and talk things through. This consisted of him crying for 2 hours, while I tried to explain and get him to understand that I didn't feel the same way about the relationship anymore, and that even if he changed it was just too late. So, after a while and when I think he realised that I wasn't going to change my mind there and then, I went home and so did he, still very upset.
The next few weeks was lots of phone calls from him, and I saw him a couple of times- all at his request. I just wanted to do whatever it took to help him get through it, and although I thought that it wouldn't help him to see me, I decided that i could cope with it and so it was really his decision to make. Gradually over a few more weeks, the phone calls reduced to about one a week, and I made sure to call him occasionally as well, just to keep in touch.
Then I made a mistake, well, I didn't think it would be one, but it turned out to be. He asked me out to have dinner with him on valentine's day, which would have been our 5 year anniversary...I agreed only on the terms that it was just as friends and nothing more. I naively supposed that this would be the case, and we could have a nice meal as friends and that everything would be ok....which it was until the journey home, when he decided that he wanted to talk about 'us'. So again, more of the same , he couldn't understand why I'd broken up with him, why the relationship failed, and was just really hurting, which of course was very understandable....he tried to make me feel guilty and make me feel like I was in the wrong, and that he could change and we could make it work etc. I managed to be strong and just kept explaining to him why i'd broken up with him, and managed not to cry, although he was, and although we weren't together anymore obviously it made me feel so bad that he was so upset.
I think that night really made him realise that I wasn't going to change my mind, and that the decision I'd made was final, even though he told me that night that he would never stop loving me and that he'd always be waiting....which I know he will change his mind about with time.
Since then, we've seen each other a few times, and kept in contact over the phone every few weeks, sometimes him phoning me and sometimes me phoning him. The seeing him part, well and the speaking part, was in the beginning very awkward, as you are so used to doing things by habit such as giving him a kiss etc, that it just felt weird not to do those things, although obviously I didn't want to have that type of relationship anymore, but gradually the longer it's been since we broke up, the less akward it has become. The last time I saw him was over the easter break, when we went for a couple of drinks, and it was the least awkward that it has been so far.
Anway, I suppose the point of this incredibly long thread (and for that I apologise and hope you've made it this far) is that he phoned me up last night...it was nice to catch up and hear what he'd been up to etc, as the last time we spoke was when I phoned him about 3 weeks ago. Well, we had a chat and everything and then he said that there were some things that he felt he needed to say. And he apologised to me for the way he had treated me both before and after we broke up, and said that he realised now that he hadn't been listening to me for a long while before we broke up, and that he'd tried to put pressure on me after I'd broken up with him, and that he had been selfish throughout that time, and was only thinking about what was best for himself and not about what would make me happy......and he apologised for all these things. Well I wasn't really quite sure what to say, so I said that he didn't have to apologise, and that I understood completely why he acted the way he did after we broke up, and that it meant a lot that he could apologise. I then decided to apologise to him for the way I'd broken up with him (over the phone) and explained that it wasn't the way I'd planned it and that it wasn't the way I should have done it etc...... And we both agreed that it had helped to put things into the past, and that it was good that we were still keeping in touch, and agreed that next time I was back home that we'd meet up for a drink or something....
So, I really believe that we will keep in touch, and that we'll stay in contact for a long time to come I hope, as we were a part of each others lives for 5 years, which is a long time in anyones book, and I feel that it would be a shame to throw that all away. So I suppose the point of this thread is to say, be patient, give your ex-time and let them come to terms with it, carry on supporting them as a friend and offer them your friendship, whether it be in the form of listening or just letting them know that you're there for them as a friend.
I think that I was lucky, my ex also wants to be friends, but I also think that the fact I made it clear to him from the beginning that I wanted to keep in touch, and be friends etc really helped the situation, and I think it's such a shame when people who have been together and had something special, never speak anymore....
So just a little (sorry, really hugely long) thing to think about, and hope somebody has got something from it.
Ruthie xx