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    (Original post by usainlightning)
    How would you know you don't even live here.
    A-level gold standard? It's internationally regarded as deteriorating in authenticity actually.. thus resulting in the desperate governmental attempt to reduce the disproportionate number of 'A' yielding students by introducing the A*. It's still a decent secondary education system, but globally, the IB is regarded in better light than GCE A-levels.
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    we have it a LOT tougher than you guys anyway...so we get our results earlier...
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    (Original post by Prilynn)
    A-level gold standard? It's internationally regarded as deteriorating in authenticity actually.. thus resulting in the desperate governmental attempt to reduce the disproportionate number of 'A' yielding students by introducing the A*. It's still a decent secondary education system, but globally, the IB is regarded in better light than GCE A-levels.

    yupp agree with what you said, thats what I meant
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    I find it unfair we have to do 6 subjects+TOK+EE
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    (Original post by HiBear)
    :puke:

    thank god IB is finally over. :moon:
    lucky 4 u, I still have one year left.
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    (Original post by LottanPottan)
    I know, only the first part of my post was your answer haha sorry!

    First of all, EB is taken by students who go to the European schools (most of their parents work for the EU), while the IB is mostly taken by students who go to International School.
    The IB is marked out of a max grade of 45, while the EB is marked as a percentage of 100. For the IB, each subject is marked out of a grade 1-7, and then you can get up to 3 extra points for the combined grades of your TOK Essay and Extended Essay.
    75-80% of an IB:ers final science/humanities/math/arts grade is from the exam taken in May, and 20-25% is from an Internal assesment (project) while for languages the exam taken in May is worth 50% and the orals and written internal assessments are worth 50%. For EB:ers, their grading works like this:
    15% coursework from 7th year (last year of EB)
    25% exams in January
    24% Oral exams in June
    36% Written exams in June

    For the IB you take 6 subjects, plus write a 4000 word Extended Essay and a 1500 word TOK (its like philosophy) essay. For the EB you take 11 subjects.

    Both the EB and the IB comprise of many compulsory subjects.
    The EB comprises of the following compulsory subjects: a foreign language, a science, mathematics, philosophy, gym, history and geography (these are taught in the students' first foreign language, i.e. English, German or French).
    The IB comprises of the following compulsory subjects: at least 1 foreign language, English, at least 1 science, at least 1 humanities subject (geography, history, ITGS, B&M, Economics, Philosophy or Phsycology), and math. Optional subjects include art, theatre and music. In total you need to have 6 subjects.

    For the IB we have to take at least 3 subjects at Higher Level (HL) and 3 subjects at Standard Level (SL). The higher level subjects are usually graded harder have more exams because if you study a subject at a higher level you are expected to have further knowledge of the subject than if you were at standard level. There are therefore more teaching hours for a HL subject than a SL subject.

    ok a long post sorry but hope you have further understanding of what the difference between the two are now
    Couldn't have put it better myself. Yeah, as there's only 14 European Schools at all, that means that students currently studying for it merely number in the thousands. In the EB you also have different levels of subjects, from standard to advanced, like Maths, first language, History and Geography, so in some ways I suppose there are similarities between the two.

    Out of interest, how have you heard about the EB?
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    (Original post by ParadigmShift)
    Couldn't have put it better myself. Yeah, as there's only 14 European Schools at all, that means that students currently studying for it merely number in the thousands. In the EB you also have different levels of subjects, from standard to advanced, like Maths, first language, History and Geography, so in some ways I suppose there are similarities between the two.

    Out of interest, how have you heard about the EB?

    I live in Luxembourg and one of the European Schools is here, and as Luxo is such a small country I know several people at the EU school so I've heard about it through them! I'm assuming you go to a European School then?
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    Ah cool. Yeah, going to start 7th year in September, so only one year left of Uccle in Brussels... sigh. Have to say, from what I've heard from A-level students, I'm pretty pleased at having done the EB - or rather almost - even though atm British universities still seem to be wary of it. :/
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    (Original post by usainlightning)
    Last time I checked A levels were still the gold standard. A levels prepare you better for university as we go into far more detail with our subjects. So i wouldn't call it a doss you ****
    I wouldn't say that front-page headlines every month about how your qualification is being irreparably dumbed-down are exactly symptomatic of a "gold-standard". There's just no question that the IB is tougher. To take a bog standard example, over 50% of people get an A at Further Maths A-level, whereas only 8% get a 7 at Maths HL in the IB. If you honestly think A-levels are worth anything, you're verging on delusional.
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    (Original post by overtherainbow)
    You have more subjects to study but its the bredth of IB that makes it hard- you have to be good across lots of subjects but we study the 3/4 subjects we do to a higher level as we have more time to learn within each subject- standard level IB is equivalent to a cross between GCSE and AS level and a higher level is equivalent to a cross between AS and A level
    Err, no it's not. IB HL subjects are usually greater than or equal to full A-levels in both content and difficulty, with some, such as Maths, easily covering the material in an A-level and an additional AS. SL subjects aren't "between GCSE and AS". They're probably around an AS-level's worth of content with an A-level's worth of difficulty.

    Source.
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    (Original post by LottanPottan)
    Actually last time I checked, the IB was ranked higher by the unis than A-Levels. :yep:
    Maybe they do, but they certainly don't show it. Oxbridge IB-ers can get offers of 7,7,7 at HL and 42 points overall. There's no way in hell that's equivalent to AAA.
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    Yeah, it sucks prostate gland.
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    Honestly some of the arguing in this thread is pathetic.

    What does the difficulty of the qualification even have to do with the thread topic, which was about results dates?

    Some people need to grow up with the "My qualification is better than your qualification" rubbish.

    At the end of the day we took whichever qualification because we either a) didn't have a choice, or b) thought it was best for us, so the bickering is pointless.
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    (Original post by shamrock92)
    Oh boo-*******-hoo. A-level guys lave LONGER to learn and revise, so it's LONGER before the results come out.

    Stop winging. You lot have every advantage - you can do retakes; you only have to do a couple of subjects; your qualification is a doss. Live with the one upshot of A-levels.
    Absolutely, that's why it is world renowned.
    Unlike IB which has how many candidates world wide?

    IB is better than A Level, but going around saying A Levels are doss is just stupid, lets face it.
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    (Original post by shamrock92)
    Maybe they do, but they certainly don't show it. Oxbridge IB-ers can get offers of 7,7,7 at HL and 42 points overall. There's no way in hell that's equivalent to AAA.

    Yeah I know and thats ridiculous ... but from what I've heard most unis like to hear that ppl have done the IB and have a broader knowledge range.. but then again as I don't live in this country (as someone so rightly but unneccessarly pointed out) , I've only heard from what our friends in England who have contacts with admissions people at diff unis have said regarding qualifications and uni...
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    In fact, I've actually heard the opposite Whenever I've talked to admissions at universities, particularly at places like Cambridge they've always viewed the broad range of study in the EB - though as it is somewhat similar to the IB I'd imagine their stance wouldn't change - as a disadvantage when compared to the more specialised A-levels.

    I don't know how it is for the IB, but in EB schools the few offers we get from Oxbridge are usually 90% - well over their supposed equivalent of 85% to AAA.

    Though I have to say, this "my qualification is better/harder/prepares you better for uni" stuff is pointless and stupid.
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    (Original post by jordan12)
    Honestly some of the arguing in this thread is pathetic.

    What does the difficulty of the qualification even have to do with the thread topic, which was about results dates?

    Some people need to grow up with the "My qualification is better than your qualification" rubbish.

    At the end of the day we took whichever qualification because we either a) didn't have a choice, or b) thought it was best for us, so the bickering is pointless.
    When you're with a group of friends, you start the conversation with a topic, which is later replaced by another topic whether its relevant, related or not at all. This is a student forum. Everything we're discussing is not wholly relevant to the thread's title, I agree, but it is indeed related.

    When you're with your group of friends, do you run the conversation by regulating what comes out the mouths of the other participants? I think not. Please, show a little more tolerance.
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    (Original post by Shayke)

    So all of the marking wont be started until after 24th.
    Not strictly true - the marking starts as the exams are done or else there'd be a HUGE backlog if they waited for every exam to finish before they started marking.

    Having said that, your point still stands, in that until the very last exams (which were sat on the 24th of June) are marked, the entire marking system is incomplete, therefore rendering our marking process the longer of the two qualifications.
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    (Original post by shamrock92)
    Maybe they do, but they certainly don't show it. Oxbridge IB-ers can get offers of 7,7,7 at HL and 42 points overall. There's no way in hell that's equivalent to AAA.
    This definitely true, but the point is, universities (until this year) cannot give offers higher than AAA, unless the candidate is taking more than 3 subjects.

    You may be exaggerating however. While those offers you stated happen, they rarely do. It's much more common to see a 7,7,6 at HL and 40 points overall offer.

    With IBers, universities have the chance to really make sure they really did choose the right people. In that sense, it may be easier for IBers to get offers, because there is a much higher level discrimination which A levels just can't provide. This is just speculation though.



    Why are there so many A level vs. IB posts in here?
    Everyone knows the IB is harder, so what?
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    I knew this thread would become an opportunity for a lot of IB students to flaunt their superiority complexes.

    (Original post by ellie_flower)
    i find it extremely unfair that A level students only have to do 3 subjects. Which are much easier. Touche.
    Really, much easier? I'm pretty sure most of us learn the same information as you, particuarly in sciences, so don't use that one and don't feel sorry for yourselves. It's not extremely unfair, it's A DIFFERENT QUALIFICATION. Also, I did 4, some people did 5 or even 6 in very specialised subjects.

    (Original post by CHEETS)
    we have it a LOT tougher than you guys anyway...so we get our results earlier...
    Awwww, want a medal?

    (Original post by shamrock92)
    Oh boo-*******-hoo. A-level guys lave LONGER to learn and revise, so it's LONGER before the results come out.

    Stop winging. You lot have every advantage - you can do retakes; you only have to do a couple of subjects; your qualification is a doss. Live with the one upshot of A-levels.
    Whilst, in some ways, you can say that the IB is harder, in no way can you say A-levels are a doss unless you think like a douche. I'd also like to point out the fact that A-level students who get AAA do as well as IB students with the 7,7,7 or whatever at uni so your point is redundant. Also, we don't have longer to revise? You do all your exams at the end of the 2 years and have a long period of study leave, whilst it could be seen as easier that we do modules, it means we have less time to learn the detail for each module so we have to be on top form all the time.

    Seriously, get over it already. A-levels are seen equally to IB to UK universities.
 
 
 
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