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    (Original post by djmarkmclachlan)
    Lol, may be wrong? Most things (IOT for example ) are less strict for MOs than other areas! Pilots definitely need to have better eyesight than Med Officers.



    Whilst this may be something of a cliched response: get the info from the horses mouth and call OASC. They will give you the most up-to-date and relevent information, and if need be can put you in touch with a specialist who will have the final say.

    OASC is at RAF Cranwell, if it helps you in finding the number.

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    :rolleyes: I like to cover myself, just in case, unless I can be bothered to prove it. Can't help being right all the time! But yeah, MOs are pretty loose as far as recruitment restrictions go. :yep:

    Just remembered what the 'shoppy' things are called: Armed Forces Careers Offices. They're in most cities I believe, and will give you lots of job-specific brochures and leaflets and pamphlets and papers and forms and cards and freebies... you get the idea. They'll also chat to you about it if you want, if you're not yet serious, and it means you can have a think about it well before you need to apply. Or else phone as suggested rather cleverly above. But they may just refer you elsewhere if you're in the very initial stages of research (I could be wrong though! ).

    Also: CHECK OUT THE RAF WEBSITE! Very useful. So useful, in fact, I'll give you the address: http://www.raf.mod.uk/careers/

    Though I expect you've already done that.

    So I'll shut up now. :yep:
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    Ok, thanks. As for paperwork, I haven't really looked into it yet, not even starting A Levels until September so it's quite a way away yet. I'll do some more research.
    No worries. Would be a good plan to get your hands on some brochures if you can, even if it is well in the future- they like foresight. :yep:

    Eeek, that sounds like a pun, wasn't meant to be!
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    (Original post by millyme)
    :rolleyes: I like to cover myself, just in case, unless I can be bothered to prove it. Can't help being right all the time! But yeah, MOs are pretty loose as far as recruitment restrictions go. :yep:

    Just remembered what the 'shoppy' things are called: Armed Forces Careers Offices. They're in most cities I believe, and will give you lots of job-specific brochures and leaflets and pamphlets and papers and forms and cards and freebies... you get the idea. They'll also chat to you about it if you want, if you're not yet serious, and it means you can have a think about it well before you need to apply. Or else phone as suggested rather cleverly above. But they may just refer you elsewhere if you're in the very initial stages of research (I could be wrong though! ).

    Also: CHECK OUT THE RAF WEBSITE! Very useful. So useful, in fact, I'll give you the address: http://www.raf.mod.uk/careers/

    Though I expect you've already done that.

    So I'll shut up now. :yep:
    "Loose" used loosely, by chance? I'm sure they bring a lot more to the table than others, maybe ("professional qualifications" )? Perhaps the role doesn't require them to have perfect eyesight/ athletic ability?

    Armed Forces Careers Offices: they sound great. Will need to go check one out some time. What kind of freebies do they give? I'm not sure if I'm serious about it yet though, it is a big decision afterall! I think I will have a think about it!

    I'd have hope that in speaking to OASC, where they determine if someone is eligible or not (pending specialist rep[orts etc), that they wouldn't just throw you off to someone else. I'd have thought they'd be able to give very clear information on exactly what is and is not acceptable wrt. medical (and other) conditions.

    Not sure about RAF though, their site isn't very good. I think I prefer this one... :eek:

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    Warning, the above post may have contained sarcasm :p:
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    Ok, thanks for all the info so far. I've started looking into it a bit more deeply, particularly the fitness side of it.

    I found a PDF on the RAF "Altitude" website that gives a 42-day fitness regime for a prospective officer (NOTE: Not Medical Officer, just an officer in general). For those unfamiliar with this training regime, the 6th (final) week suggests the following exercises:

    Monday:- 30 minute run (mod/high intensity)

    Tuesday:- 30 minutes low impact aerobic activity (mod intensity)

    Wednesday:- 3 x Circuits (of 25xTricep dips, 35xSit-ups, 12xPress-ups, 25xDorsal Raises, 35xStep-ups)

    Thursday:- Rest

    Friday:- 30 minute run (mod/high intensity)

    Saturday:- Fitness test (1.5 mile run in best time, max. possible press-ups in 1 minute, max. possible sit-ups in 1 minute)

    Sunday:- Rest/swim


    My question is whether I am already at a decent level of fitness for the position of a Medical Officer if I can do this "Week 6" regime fairly easily?

    Thanks again.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    Warning, the above post may have contained sarcasm :p:
    :cool:

    Lol, just playing. Though, the part about the RAF site beiong rubbish was obviously jonnick.

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    (Original post by houseelf)
    Ok, thanks for all the info so far. I've started looking into it a bit more deeply, particularly the fitness side of it.

    I found a PDF on the RAF "Altitude" website that gives a 42-day fitness regime for a prospective officer (NOTE: Not Medical Officer, just an officer in general). For those unfamiliar with this training regime, the 6th (final) week suggests the following exercises:

    Monday:- 30 minute run (mod/high intensity)

    Tuesday:- 30 minutes low impact aerobic activity (mod intensity)

    Wednesday:- 3 x Circuits (of 25xTricep dips, 35xSit-ups, 12xPress-ups, 25xDorsal Raises, 35xStep-ups)

    Thursday:- Rest

    Friday:- 30 minute run (mod/high intensity)

    Saturday:- Fitness test (1.5 mile run in best time, max. possible press-ups in 1 minute, max. possible sit-ups in 1 minute)

    Sunday:- Rest/swim


    My question is whether I am already at a decent level of fitness for the position of a Medical Officer if I can do this "Week 6" regime fairly easily?

    Thanks again.
    I don't believe there's anyone here that's went through the SERE route, though there's conflicting information about how difficult it is vs. IOT. If you're capable of IOT then I'm certain you're capable, physically, of SERE (MO's IOT).

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    (Original post by djmarkmclachlan)
    I don't believe there's anyone here that's went through the SERE route, though there's conflicting information about how difficult it is vs. IOT. If you're capable of IOT then I'm certain you're capable, physically, of SERE (MO's IOT).

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    That's fantastic news, thanks.

    EDIT: Oh, one more thing I forgot to ask. I've read somewhere that RAF personnel have to be able to swim 3 lengths of a large pool, tread water for 2 minutes, and then exit the pool unaided. I'm not the most confident swimmer, does anyone know if this applies to Medical Officers or not? If so, exactly how "large" is a large pool?
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    Eyesight standards (found via search on the helpful little search box at the top of the page...):

    http://www.aop.org.uk/uploaded_files/raf_july_07.pdf

    houseelf- I'm as blind as a bat (wear contacts 24/7; couldn't even see my computer screen unaided) and I still meet the requirements - but that's just shortsightedness, remember they look other aspects of vision as well.
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    (Original post by houseelf)
    My question is whether I am already at a decent level of fitness for the position of a Medical Officer if I can do this "Week 6" regime fairly easily?
    As with any aspect of military training and service, the fitter you are, the less difficult it all is. Mental and physical stress all take their toll. So - don't think you are 'fit enough' as, if you could be fitter, then it will be to your advantage. I'm guessing you are 16 years old - you have quite a bit of time to maintain and improve fitness!
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    As with any aspect of military training and service, the fitter you are, the less difficult it all is. Mental and physical stress all take their toll. So - don't think you are 'fit enough' as, if you could be fitter, then it will be to your advantage. I'm guessing you are 16 years old - you have quite a bit of time to maintain and improve fitness!
    Just turned 17, and planning on exercising to at least the "week 6" regime where possible throughout sixth form and uni, time permitting. So yeah, hopefully fitness shouldn't be /too/ much of an issue. And by the sounds of some of the people on here with poor eyesight, I should be fine. Getting the idea that laser eye surgery wouldn't be the smartest way to go though...might just stick with glasses/contacts until I get some official confirmation.
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    For what it's worth, the guidance of that PDF - and a booklet called 'Fitness to Lead' - seems to be aimed at a fairly low level. I'm easily reaching the week 6 level at the moment but know I'm not fit enough.

    But I'll agree, they're not bad as a starting point.
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    (Original post by djmarkmclachlan)
    "Loose" used loosely, by chance? I'm sure they bring a lot more to the table than others, maybe ("professional qualifications" )? Perhaps the role doesn't require them to have perfect eyesight/ athletic ability?

    Armed Forces Careers Offices: they sound great. Will need to go check one out some time. What kind of freebies do they give? I'm not sure if I'm serious about it yet though, it is a big decision afterall! I think I will have a think about it!

    I'd have hope that in speaking to OASC, where they determine if someone is eligible or not (pending specialist rep[orts etc), that they wouldn't just throw you off to someone else. I'd have thought they'd be able to give very clear information on exactly what is and is not acceptable wrt. medical (and other) conditions.

    Not sure about RAF though, their site isn't very good. I think I prefer this one... :eek:

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    Please do forgive my stupidity in advance if you realised (I'm half asleep, still): the rest of the post, past paragraph one, was addressed to the OP. You seem to already be in the Navy? In which case you are a lost cause, I'm afraid.

    AFCO do Navy too, you might get a free inflatable dingy. (I'm speculating...)

    'Loosely' was in reference to fitness, medical checks etc., since clearly they would indeed need to be qualified and I think have done a year (or maybe a few years) training. Hence the much higher age boundary. Though I may be wrong. :rolleyes:

    And yes, I would hope that OASC would try to help, and no doubt they would, especially to specific questions, what with being no doubt very lovely people. But for general info, I think I'd get pretty annoyed if I was busy and little kids kept ringing up asking really general stuff that they could find out elsewhere- hypothetically speaking, not that that's what the OP would be doing. Best to ring up after you know the basics.

    Joking aside, I do actually like the Navy. In fact I like all sections of everything that does anything, pretty much. I'm just more of a Riff Raff person myself, I suppose. :yep: Maybe.
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    (Original post by millyme)
    Please do forgive my stupidity in advance if you realised (I'm half asleep, still): the rest of the post, past paragraph one, was addressed to the OP. You seem to already be in the Navy? In which case you are a lost cause, I'm afraid.

    AFCO do Navy too, you might get a free inflatable dingy. (I'm speculating...)

    'Loosely' was in reference to fitness, medical checks etc., since clearly they would indeed need to be qualified and I think have done a year (or maybe a few years) training. Hence the much higher age boundary. Though I may be wrong. :rolleyes:

    And yes, I would hope that OASC would try to help, and no doubt they would, especially to specific questions, what with being no doubt very lovely people. But for general info, I think I'd get pretty annoyed if I was busy and little kids kept ringing up asking really general stuff that they could find out elsewhere- hypothetically speaking, not that that's what the OP would be doing. Best to ring up after you know the basics.

    Joking aside, I do actually like the Navy. In fact I like all sections of everything that does anything, pretty much. I'm just more of a Riff Raff person myself, I suppose. :yep: Maybe.
    Lol, yeah, I realised; but that sounds about right - you're interested in the RAF, and have no concept of tongue-in-cheek/ "banter!!" - yeah, sounds about right...

    Lost indeed, lost on my way to the shops and ended up here! Senior Service though, traditions not habits and all that. :eek:

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    (Original post by djmarkmclachlan)
    Lol, yeah, I realised; but that sounds about right - you're interested in the RAF, and have no concept of tongue-in-cheek/ "banter!!" - yeah, sounds about right...

    Lost indeed, lost on my way to the shops and ended up here! Senior Service though, traditions not habits and all that. :eek:

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    Ok, so maybe I was being a bit slow. I hadn't slept. I'm usually good with sarcasm, honest! :p:

    As for Senior service- some would argue it's reached the very limits of old age. :captain: And is filled with socially inept mummy's boys :titan:

    Mind you, I suppose Geeks in the RAF is just as bad a stereotype.

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    (Original post by houseelf)
    That's fantastic news, thanks.

    EDIT: Oh, one more thing I forgot to ask. I've read somewhere that RAF personnel have to be able to swim 3 lengths of a large pool, tread water for 2 minutes, and then exit the pool unaided. I'm not the most confident swimmer, does anyone know if this applies to Medical Officers or not? If so, exactly how "large" is a large pool?
    Sorry dude, no idea. Large pool, I assume will be the same as the RN uses, is 50/25/3m. If it's any consolation, the RN made us do it wearing overalls (overalls one size fits all, ie. 7ft ******* things... not good for short arses like yours truly!).

    Then there was the penultimate/ final week monday exercise or whatever it was... Overalls and a 2/3m (forget height) diving board, tread water for a couple of minutes before about 5 lengths (I think, again, can't remember) with bricks and the likes. Before stretcher runs and an obstacle and assault course. Not a good day...

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    (Original post by millyme)
    Ok, so maybe I was being a bit slow. I hadn't slept. I'm usually good with sarcasm, honest! :p:

    As for Senior service- some would argue it's reached the very limits of old age. :captain: And is filled with socially inept mummy's boys :titan:

    Mind you, I suppose Geeks in the RAF is just as bad a stereotype.

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    I'm more a daddy's boy, personally. But no dramas there, beats all those "socially inept" Regiment types. :eek:

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    There are are two swim tests you may do in the RAF:

    Both wear coveralls which don't really fit. You may use any stroke (apart from on your back).

    1. Aircrew (Role Related) Swim Test (done by aircrew plus one or two other branches) - 4 lengths of 25m pool without touching the sides, followed by 2 mins tread water.
    2. Adventure Training Swim Test - 2 lengths of 25m pool without touching the sides followed by 3 mins tread water.

    Both then require getting out of the pool unaided and not using steps.


    The aircrew one supercedes the AT one, though I reckon the treading water is the hardest bit. As a doc you will do test number 2!
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    (Original post by FatFridge)
    How does flat-feet make it harder? Could you explain please, I dont see how having flat-feet makes any difference to anything
    I heard that you can't join the RAF If you're flat-footed... :/
    Idk if this is right though, so don't quote me on that, I guess the only way to find out is to wait and see...
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    I reckon at this stage you don't really need to worry about the specifics of the fitness requirements- as long as you can swim well, in a large swimming pool, and keep up a generally good level of fitness you'll be ok for the next 6 or so years until you join.

    Unless you were thinking of being sponsored? :confused:
 
 
 
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