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Law at National University of Singapore...
Hey guys...
Am super depressed right now. Just got a letter from the National University of Singapore accepting me into their LL.B programme. Was rejected last year, but was forcefully coerced by my dad to reapply this year, and unfortunately, even though I tried to screw up my interview and written test, I actually got in! Bah!
Anyways, if I don't secure an education loan, it looks like I'd be stuck on this bloody island.
What I want to know is, if, God forbid I should actually end up in NUS, would I still be able to practice in the UK, as a solicitor? Would I be better off doing an LLM first before applying for jobs in the UK?
Am super depressed right now. Just got a letter from the National University of Singapore accepting me into their LL.B programme. Was rejected last year, but was forcefully coerced by my dad to reapply this year, and unfortunately, even though I tried to screw up my interview and written test, I actually got in! Bah!
Anyways, if I don't secure an education loan, it looks like I'd be stuck on this bloody island.
What I want to know is, if, God forbid I should actually end up in NUS, would I still be able to practice in the UK, as a solicitor? Would I be better off doing an LLM first before applying for jobs in the UK?
ERM, thats a good question. If you goto the LAw society website and look at the list for accepted qualifying law degrees from each accepted university, there ull be able to see. HOWEVER, i have taken a look at this before and im pretty sure thats not on it. SO what ur gonna have to do is do the degree, then the CPE, THEN the LPC then into a firm. Seems a long haul.
i think falique that the LLB of Singapore is generally accepted in the UK due to the fact that it is still based on our system of Common law (from what im told) and i have met a top lawyer who works at Clifford Chance LLP (biggest and best law firm in the world) who graduated from Singapore and did her BCL at Oxford (and remember Oxford only take Law degrees from accepted countries for the entrance for the BCL so singapore must be good!).
Singapore is a great place to study (by reputation) and am hoping i can get a placement to work/study there in 2 yrs time!
Mandeep
Singapore is a great place to study (by reputation) and am hoping i can get a placement to work/study there in 2 yrs time!
Mandeep
I have to agree with Wings_cp, you really should have checked this out before applying! And I wouldn't judge whether it is a qualifying degree based on the BCL - the BCL is an academic course, you don't need to fufil the same technical requirements for it in the way you do for the LPC/BVC etc.
Whenever I've had to contact the Law Society (by email) they've replied in a day or two so just ask them if you're stuck.
Whenever I've had to contact the Law Society (by email) they've replied in a day or two so just ask them if you're stuck.
Yeah, I checked the website, but couldn't find NUS.
I didn't apply to NUS cos I wanted to... My dad forced me to! I mean, come on, I do NOT want to stay in this island for another second, if possible.
I don't he cares that I want to relocate to the UK... I cannot imagine spending another four years on this damn island, it's been too long!
God, I really hope I get the loans...
I didn't apply to NUS cos I wanted to... My dad forced me to! I mean, come on, I do NOT want to stay in this island for another second, if possible.
I don't he cares that I want to relocate to the UK... I cannot imagine spending another four years on this damn island, it's been too long!
God, I really hope I get the loans...
Dreama
Are you over 18? Why not just go to the University you *want* to go to?
Because for overseas students, a degree in a UK university costs £50,000 (£10,000 fees and £7,000 per year x 3 years). With parents who probably earn less than £20-30K per year, it is not exactly easy for students to study here!
Fa|ique
Hey guys...
Am super depressed right now. Just got a letter from the National University of Singapore accepting me into their LL.B programme. Was rejected last year, but was forcefully coerced by my dad to reapply this year, and unfortunately, even though I tried to screw up my interview and written test, I actually got in! Bah!
Anyways, if I don't secure an education loan, it looks like I'd be stuck on this bloody island.
What I want to know is, if, God forbid I should actually end up in NUS, would I still be able to practice in the UK, as a solicitor? Would I be better off doing an LLM first before applying for jobs in the UK?
Am super depressed right now. Just got a letter from the National University of Singapore accepting me into their LL.B programme. Was rejected last year, but was forcefully coerced by my dad to reapply this year, and unfortunately, even though I tried to screw up my interview and written test, I actually got in! Bah!
Anyways, if I don't secure an education loan, it looks like I'd be stuck on this bloody island.
What I want to know is, if, God forbid I should actually end up in NUS, would I still be able to practice in the UK, as a solicitor? Would I be better off doing an LLM first before applying for jobs in the UK?
This is probably not what you want to hear, so don't show this to your dad. :-) But as a law student, tutor and future trainee at a Magic Circle law firm, I can categorically tell you that NUS has a very fine and respected law school in the common law world. Countless NUS law graduates do VERY well on the Oxford BCL and the Harvard LLM.
lawgrad
Because for overseas students, a degree in a UK university costs £50,000 (£10,000 fees and £7,000 per year x 3 years). With parents who probably earn less than £20-30K per year, it is not exactly easy for students to study here!
*The mind boggles*
Ok that's alot of cash, sorry for inconsiderate comment before
Seems like NUS won't hinder your chances at least..
Good luck.D xxxx
I'd recommend you and your dad sit down and have a chat about this as you and your dad seem to want very different things for yourself. It seems that you haven't made your intentions explicit enough to your father. As i'm sure at the end of the day he has your interests at heart.
I've basically told my dad if i don't get into my firm, i'm taking a gap year and i thought he'd be annoyed but he didn't mind as long as i do something in the gap year. As he's always been one of those guys who preaches about education all the time. So i do have an idea of what you are going through.
Also my friend, it doesn't seem as if NUS is that bad from what i'm hearing from some of the guys above! lol. Good luck.
I've basically told my dad if i don't get into my firm, i'm taking a gap year and i thought he'd be annoyed but he didn't mind as long as i do something in the gap year. As he's always been one of those guys who preaches about education all the time. So i do have an idea of what you are going through.
Also my friend, it doesn't seem as if NUS is that bad from what i'm hearing from some of the guys above! lol. Good luck.
It's not that NUS isn't good, (though am biased against it anyways, and believe that its' ranking of 18 in the world league tables is absolute rubbish...). But I don't want to live and study here anymore. I went for the NUS open house, and walking around the campus made me sick to the stomach. It was such a horrid place, and one where I could NOT see myself spending the next 4 years in.
Since I want to live and practice in London, it'll make a lot more sense if I got a degree from the UK. Plus, I absolutely adore Nottingham, from what I've seen of it so far, and have been looking forward to the day I finally touchdown in UK to embark on my university studies.
Now all I feel is this queasy feeling, filled with apprehension and worry.
I guess all I can do now is hope and pray that the banks here will give me the education loans I need. I'd really wouldn't know what to do...
If you guys know of any organisations that give out bursaries, grants or scholarships to foreign students, please let me know. I could use all the help I can get now.
Since I want to live and practice in London, it'll make a lot more sense if I got a degree from the UK. Plus, I absolutely adore Nottingham, from what I've seen of it so far, and have been looking forward to the day I finally touchdown in UK to embark on my university studies.
Now all I feel is this queasy feeling, filled with apprehension and worry.
I guess all I can do now is hope and pray that the banks here will give me the education loans I need. I'd really wouldn't know what to do...
If you guys know of any organisations that give out bursaries, grants or scholarships to foreign students, please let me know. I could use all the help I can get now.
fair enough Falique.....I can let you know of how to get some sort of sponsorship....contact the British Council. When I worked at the airport i worked for a company that had a part to play in giving foreign graduates (or students in any sense of the word) money to pay for some of their studies. Not much i have to say (like between £250 to £750 i think) but it was something. Check out their website, give them a call/email. Competition im guessing must be quiet high from the people i spoke to...most were going to Top 10 uni's (though you dont need to worry as Nottingham is perfect) and some (a sizable number) had Masters, PhD's though some were students embarking on undergraduate programmes.
Give it a shot! and i sincerely hope u get the money to come here and study!
Mandeep
Give it a shot! and i sincerely hope u get the money to come here and study!
Mandeep
lawgrad
This is probably not what you want to hear, so don't show this to your dad. :-) But as a law student, tutor and future trainee at a Magic Circle law firm, I can categorically tell you that NUS has a very fine and respected law school in the common law world. Countless NUS law graduates do VERY well on the Oxford BCL and the Harvard LLM.
Out of interest - which MC firm are you off to? You are doing the LPC at present I take it?
Fa|ique
It's not that NUS isn't good, (though am biased against it anyways, and believe that its' ranking of 18 in the world league tables is absolute rubbish...). But I don't want to live and study here anymore. I went for the NUS open house, and walking around the campus made me sick to the stomach. It was such a horrid place, and one where I could NOT see myself spending the next 4 years in.
Since I want to live and practice in London, it'll make a lot more sense if I got a degree from the UK. Plus, I absolutely adore Nottingham, from what I've seen of it so far, and have been looking forward to the day I finally touchdown in UK to embark on my university studies.
Now all I feel is this queasy feeling, filled with apprehension and worry.
I guess all I can do now is hope and pray that the banks here will give me the education loans I need. I'd really wouldn't know what to do...
If you guys know of any organisations that give out bursaries, grants or scholarships to foreign students, please let me know. I could use all the help I can get now.
Since I want to live and practice in London, it'll make a lot more sense if I got a degree from the UK. Plus, I absolutely adore Nottingham, from what I've seen of it so far, and have been looking forward to the day I finally touchdown in UK to embark on my university studies.
Now all I feel is this queasy feeling, filled with apprehension and worry.
I guess all I can do now is hope and pray that the banks here will give me the education loans I need. I'd really wouldn't know what to do...
If you guys know of any organisations that give out bursaries, grants or scholarships to foreign students, please let me know. I could use all the help I can get now.
Hi falique, Im a fellow sporean and I can understand the predicament u are gg through. Firstly I should warn you that its definitely not cheap to stay in the Uk and mind you, Im not even located in london. As lawgrad has stated, it would costs at least 30,000GBP in tuition fees alone and this excludes an additional 9,000GBP for the LPC (assuming you dont have a training contract). Its very difficult to get loans from banks unless ur family are open to the idea of putting your house as security (assuming of cos u live in a private housing). If not, the banks would only give up to three times the monthly salary of that applicant. So if your dad or mum earns about 5,000SGD, u would only get about 15,000SGD as a loan. Wat I suggest to most students who want to study in the UK but can't afford to is to go and check out co-operatives. One I would recommend is either NTUC co-operatives or TCC (located at Kiliney Road). They offer education loans to students who are keen on studying abroad. However, having said that, their interest rates are a killer. U can easily pay up to 3,000SGD a year just for the interest rate and this excludes the repayment of the principal loan. But this is an option and I would seriously suggest u to go to them for further advice. They offer loans for tuition fees but not for accomodation though. Have a talk with your dad and hopefully he would be willing to support you. Hope my advice helps. Good luck and keep us updated as to whether u will be joining us in the land of fish and chips.
PS: Here is the webaddress for the TCC which I mentioned: https://tcc.org.sg/index1.htm
Yeah, am aware of those facilities. My dad and I will be applying for education loans from HSBC, NTUC Income, AUPE Cooperative (if possible) and TCC (v high interest i know...)
HSBC and NTUC Income both can give up to 6 times my dad's monthly income, with HSBC allowing the addition of my dad's income together with my bro. If I can get HSBC, NTUC Income and either AUPE or TCC, it should be enough to last me the three to four years. We're just waiting for my dad's notice of tax assessment to come in before we can apply for the loans...
Will keep u guys updated regarding my fate...
HSBC and NTUC Income both can give up to 6 times my dad's monthly income, with HSBC allowing the addition of my dad's income together with my bro. If I can get HSBC, NTUC Income and either AUPE or TCC, it should be enough to last me the three to four years. We're just waiting for my dad's notice of tax assessment to come in before we can apply for the loans...
Will keep u guys updated regarding my fate...
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