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    (Original post by Diaz89)
    I wonder how ethnic minorities feel when they go to places that are 100% white, with limited English, financial resources......
    I'm sorry, I don't quite know what your point is?
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    (Original post by Renner)
    Well yes it is, differnet cultures around the world have different moral codes. You think it’s wrong to muder, how about if that man is a convicted paedophile, and you catch him with your kids? Or he is a convicted killer and you know he is going to kill again? You see, entirely subjective.

    Because we voted them in. And how can that be seen as racist in any way

    weather it should or shouldn’t matter is just about the same argument as weather it does or doesn’t matter. I say that on the international stage morality has no place, you either win or you lose and that’s it.
    in this post you have simply demonstrated so much idiocy i think you should go outside and play chicken in the road. I have a lot of time for intelligent arguments against my point of view, but you sir are so stupid i'm not even going to respond
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    (Original post by Jonty99)
    I never mentioned political representation.

    I'm intrigued as to what you think is racist about the government putting its own people first. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it; nationality, however, does.
    by political representation I mean a government representing a group of people's interests politically. Its exactly what you mean.
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    (Original post by 8 is enough)
    in this post you have simply demonstrated so much idiocy i think you should go outside and play chicken in the road. I have a lot of time for intelligent arguments against my point of view, but you sir are so stupid i'm not even going to respond
    If you specialise in intelligent arguments, why do you think the government putting its own people first is racist?
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    (Original post by 8 is enough)
    Oh dear. The debate is who should government favour (or not). You can't win that debate by stating that its their job to represent one group.
    Either:
    The very purpose of a government is to do what is best for the citizens of it's country.

    I thought that much was common sense.
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    (Original post by Voluntas Mos Victum)
    I'm sure they feel absolutely fine.

    The liberal brainwashing most 100% white areas have been subjected to leaves them with a more than accomodating attitude.

    Ethnic minorities in white areas are far better off than whites in ethnic ghettos.
    How the hell would they feel absolutely fine, go to Russia with a fiver in your pocket and see how long you'll survive.

    Ethnic minorities are treated like **** not only by white people but by other ethnic minorities (sometimes more). I was standing in a line in Heathrow and this Iraqi guy was trying to show this Indian women from the UK border Agency his visa and her condenceding frankly insulting attitude was insulting. They do anything these days to refuse you entry/ or get you out of this country.

    People actually think it's really easy to survive in this country until you walk in their shoes.
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    (Original post by Voluntas Mos Victum)
    The very purpose of a government is to do what is best for the citizens of it's country.

    I thought that much was common sense.
    as defined by you, which is no more valid a purpose than put forward by anyone else.

    Common sense in the stage of political debate all too often is simply an excuse to revert to an accepted definition with no hint of reasoning. That is what you have done.
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    Once again we see an example of an establishment fool, losing touch with reality. What is there to be "proud" of with a multicultural/pro-immigration society (which he most probably never experiences)? Proud of Mr. Mohammed claiming his benefits and expensive car with the right to pray wherever he wants? Proud of being sold out to the crappest, cheapest Third World labour when we become unprofitable? Proud of having entire workforces lose their jobs and houses, and replaced by Fryderyk from Poland? Proud of segregated societies at each other's throats all the time? Proud of an alien, anti-British, anti-Christian religion that wants to kill me? Honestly. What?
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    (Original post by Elipsis)
    I'm sorry, I don't quite know what your point is?
    That when come here they go through **** aswell
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    (Original post by Jonty99)
    If you specialise in intelligent arguments, why do you think the government putting its own people first is racist?
    Ok, its not racist but discriminates on the grounds of nationality, which is equally damning.

    Why do you think that more tax contributions should mean greater political representation of a group's interests? I've admitted that I was wrong, I'm sure you can.
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    (Original post by 8 is enough)
    Ok, its not racist but discriminates on the grounds of nationality, which is equally damning.

    Why do you think that more tax contributions should mean greater political representation of a group's interests? I've admitted that I was wrong, I'm sure you can.
    I never said greater political representation of a group's interests.

    I mean that if there is demand for housing, healthcare etc, some priority should be given to those who were born here.
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    (Original post by Diaz89)
    How the hell would they feel absolutely fine, go to Russia with a fiver in your pocket and see how long you'll survive.

    Ethnic minorities are treated like **** not only by white people but by other ethnic minorities (sometimes more). I was standing in a line in Heathrow and this Iraqi guy was trying to show this Indian women from the UK border Agency his visa and her condenceding frankly insulting attitude was insulting. They do anything these days to refuse you entry/ or get you out of this country.

    People actually think it's really easy to survive in this country until you walk in their shoes.
    I'm not talking about Russia, I'm talking about Britain.

    Most children,and indeed citizens, are subject to such vehement anti-racism propaganda that they hold no discriminatory views at all. All anti-racism programmes are directed solely at the white majority, which allows the idea that "only whites can be racist" to permeate throughout society. As a result of this, any anti-white feeling which is festering amongst the various ethnic communities is left to grow,without the slightest amount of attention payed to the issue,especially in large ghettos.

    To prove my point, you must think about the very way you perceive society. If you see on the news " 3 white youths attack black male" it always crosses your mind,at the very least, that it was a racist attack .

    If the tide was turned in that news story, would you assume that the attack was racist? Most people wouldn't.
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    (Original post by necessarily benevolent)
    Once again we see an example of an establishment fool, losing touch with reality. What is there to be "proud" of with a multicultural/pro-immigration society (which he most probably never experiences)? Proud of Mr. Mohammed claiming his benefits and expensive car with the right to pray wherever he wants? Proud of being sold out to the crappest, cheapest Third World labour when we become unprofitable? Proud of having entire workforces lose their jobs and houses, and replaced by Fryderyk from Poland? Proud of segregated societies at each other's throats all the time? Proud of an alien, anti-British, anti-Christian religion that wants to kill me? Honestly. What?
    funny how we brought that world labour here in the first place.
    honestly how does Mr Mohammed afford that Ferrari lol....... and get the hell out of the UAE.

    White British and white other are 90% of this country, so ffs complain about something else.
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    (Original post by Diaz89)
    funny how we brought that world labour here in the first place.
    That's what an out of touch political establishment does for you..

    I love how you say world labour- you won't even admit the clear distinction between us and the third world?
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    (Original post by Diaz89)
    funny how we brought that world labour here in the first place.
    I didn't. I wasn't asked anything about whether or not I wanted foreigners taking British jobs.

    (Original post by Diaz89)
    honestly how does Mr Mohammed afford both lol....... and get the hell out of the UAE.
    UAE's foreigners = tourists
    Britain's foreigners = Third World colonisers

    (Original post by Diaz89)
    White British and white other are 90% of this country, so ffs complain about something else.
    Where did I mention anything about white people? :confused:
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    (Original post by Diaz89)
    That when come here they go through **** aswell
    It's all relative. The **** they go through here is paradise compared to where they come from.
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    (Original post by Jonty99)
    I never said greater political representation of a group's interests.

    I mean that if there is demand for housing, healthcare etc, some priority should be given to those who were born here.
    By political representation I mean representation of their interests within the country's political institutions, eg. healthcare allocation.

    Ok so you've changed your argument - being born in the UK =/= contributing more in tax. Also you've merely asserted your point with no process of reasoning at all. Please provide at least a reason as to why someone born in the uk should be inherently more worthy of access to the opportunities this country has to offer than someone born in another geographical location.
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    (Original post by necessarily benevolent)
    Once again we see an example of an establishment fool, losing touch with reality. What is there to be "proud" of with a multicultural/pro-immigration society (which he most probably never experiences)? Proud of Mr. Mohammed claiming his benefits and expensive car with the right to pray wherever he wants? Proud of being sold out to the crappest, cheapest Third World labour when we become unprofitable? Proud of having entire workforces lose their jobs and houses, and replaced by Fryderyk from Poland? Proud of segregated societies at each other's throats all the time? Proud of an alien, anti-British, anti-Christian religion that wants to kill me? Honestly. What?
    lol!
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    (Original post by 8 is enough)
    Please provide at least a reason as to why someone born in the uk should be inherently more worthy of access to the opportunities this country has to offer than someone born in another geographical location.
    The whole point of everyone before us, and us, working hard is that the people who are born here in the future have a better life. You'll find the majority of people work so that the next generation can have a better life, and this simply wouldn't work if we opened it up to the whole world. The only way to survive in a world that competes for resources is to band together; be that through race, geograpical location or whatever, it has to be done.
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    (Original post by Voluntas Mos Victum)
    I'm not talking about Russia, I'm talking about Britain.

    Most children,and indeed citizens, are subject to such vehement anti-racism propaganda that they hold no discriminatory views at all. All anti-racism programmes are directed solely at the white majority, which allows the idea that "only whites can be racist" to permeate throughout society. As a result of this, any anti-white feeling which is festering amongst the various ethnic communities is left to grow,without the slightest amount of attention payed to the issue,especially in large ghettos.

    To prove my point, you must think about the very way you perceive society. If you see on the news " 3 white youths attack black male" it always crosses your mind,at the very least, that it was a racist attack .

    If the tide was turned in that news story, would you assume that the attack was racist? Most people wouldn't.
    No... I was giving you an example that going to live in Alien country with very little resources and understanding of its culture is extremely difficult to do and people only do it when they have no other opportunity.

    Secondly what the hell are you on about anti racist propaganda, I have never in my life been subject to such nonsense, so please tell what sort of propaganda is been distributed because obviously it isn't working since the BNP won it's first European seats.....

    Most people seem to worship white people in this country and even abroad, go and see how you're treated in an Airport compared to an ethnic minority.

    And about your example I think it's quite silly because. Black racisim or any other form of racism has been a result of a background of discrimination and injustice like the Black Panthers, Nation Of Islam as compared with white racism which is rooted in supremacism Nazis, KKK,National Front.
 
 
 
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