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    (Original post by normalothercitrusfruit)
    now i'm sorry, but passive smoking is just a load of crap - and if you smoke when pregnant then you're a nitwit, anyway that's unlikely to be a problem for me i'm thinking
    It is not a load of crap. Passive smoking counts as an environmental irritant which can cause asthma amongst other things.
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    (Original post by Mushi_master)
    I make it look good :cool:
    i'll make smoking look good :cool:
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    (Original post by normalothercitrusfruit)
    now i'm sorry, but passive smoking is just a load of crap - and if you smoke when pregnant then you're a nitwit, anyway that's unlikely to be a problem for me i'm thinking


    Anyway, im done with this.

    Fatal, I looove Hot chocolate. mmmmm
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    (Original post by normalothercitrusfruit)
    No it isn't because they smoke, that is just a pattern i've noticed

    Other things like what? I really don't see any
    A) A happy life can be a life with a lot of friends, a family, children, perhaps if that's your thing. Or one with a good career, or an interest in something. To me, a healthy life will allow me to be happier than one with constant medical problems.

    B) A hobby will give you something to do. Personally I haven't found something I adore yet, but I'm certainly trying and in the mean time I've found a few hobbies I like a lot. Going out with friends or whatever will give you something to do, and you probably wouldn't have the money to do that as much whilst smoking.

    C) You can live without the smell.

    D) You can collect lighters anyway.

    E) Surprise your friends by doing something else. I surprised my friends when I decided to go into medicine (no joke) and when I decided that I'd take up rowing and the violin, or when I paid for a meal for them.

    F) The risk is what makes a lot of things fun, like gambling, or sky diving.

    G) Smokers aren't more interesting than the average person.
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    (Original post by scaryhair)
    Meeee - I was craving it earlier :sad:
    Currently enjoying a mug thought I'd try break up the fray but alas...
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    (Original post by normalothercitrusfruit)
    now i'm sorry, but passive smoking is just a load of crap
    Source?
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    (Original post by fatal)
    Currently enjoying a mug thought I'd try break up the fray but alas...
    Oh :sad: We have none at home :sad: Yeah, I'm pretty sick of arguing actually - I think you get to a certain point where you can't try to help someone any more and just have to let them do what they want. There's only so much you can do :dontknow:
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    (Original post by scaryhair)
    I've seen this argument loads on TSR. What I'd really like to see is how much the government gets in tax from smokers, and how much smokers cost the NHS directly and indirectly (effects of passive smoking, smoking during pregnancy etc), just think it'd be interesting to see if it is true and if so just how much of a difference there is - cold, hard numbers. There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics :p:
    Here: http://www.the-tma.org.uk/tobacco-tax-revenue.aspx

    most recent figures 06-07 its £10bn which is double fatals quoted figure
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    You lot are probably right, i'll think about it - but i've wanted to smoke since I was little, and i've never stopped wanting to really. But I do take all your arguments and i'll consider what you're saying.
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    (Original post by crazylemon)
    Here: http://www.the-tma.org.uk/tobacco-tax-revenue.aspx

    most recent figures 06-07 its £10bn which is double fatals quoted figure
    Yeah but no source for what it costs the NHS...
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    (Original post by fatal)
    does anyone like hot chocolate?
    I just had one :coma:
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    (Original post by crazylemon)
    Here: http://www.the-tma.org.uk/tobacco-tax-revenue.aspx

    most recent figures 06-07 its £10bn which is double fatals quoted figure
    Sort of shows how much smokers are being exploited :sadnod:
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    (Original post by Mushi_master)
    After those pits during Slipknot at Download, I beg to differ :p:
    I got stuck in a mosh pit once, it was a scary experience but that's mainly because I'm too small :sadnod:
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    (Original post by scaryhair)
    Yeah but no source for what it costs the NHS...
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8086142.stm

    This says about 5 bn so smokers pay 2x that
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    (Original post by crazylemon)
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7654153.stm

    This says about 3 bn so smokers pay 3x that
    thanks once again :top:
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    (Original post by crazylemon)
    Here: http://www.the-tma.org.uk/tobacco-tax-revenue.aspx

    most recent figures 06-07 its £10bn which is double fatals quoted figure
    small change like, as long as some people look kinda cool, impress their friends and emulate their heroes eh?
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    (Original post by normalothercitrusfruit)
    thanks once again :top:
    I found a more recent one, closer to 5bn
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    (Original post by crazylemon)
    I found a more recent one, closer to 5bn
    Yeah, you could have kept that to yourself though :hmmm:
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    (Original post by normalothercitrusfruit)
    You lot are probably right, i'll think about it - but i've wanted to smoke since I was little, and i've never stopped wanting to really. But I do take all your arguments and i'll consider what you're saying.
    Sometimes, things you want to do when you're little are the ones that you should let go of when you're older. Like, I always wanted to be a singer, but unfortunately that would cause ear problems for the british population.
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    (Original post by fatal)
    small change like, as long as some people look kinda cool, impress their friends and emulate their heroes eh?
    Not my place to judge, people can do it for whatever reason they want, personally I have no desire or intention to smoke.
    But to say they are a drain on the NHS is wrong, they give more than they take
 
 
 
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