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    Hypothetical situation. *cough cough* :ninja:

    I'm walking down the street and hear a scream round the corner in a dark alley. I rush over and see a man - with his penis out - holding a woman against the wall while cutting her dress with a knife. I rush over and in trying to save the woman, I end up killing the man in the struggle to get the knife out of his hands.

    What would happen? (legally). It's not self-defence... would it be counted as vigilante actions? (which I assume to be illegal)...

    hmm... do enlighten me TSRians.
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    (Original post by Kagutsuchi)
    I'm walking down the street and hear a scream round the corner in a dark alley. I rush over and see a man holding a woman against the wall while cutting her dress with a knife. I rush over and in trying to save the woman, I end up killing the man in the struggle to get the knife out of his hands.
    Only to find he was a tailor doing his job and the women had seen a spider.
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    (Original post by Gamer99)
    Only to find he was a tailor doing his job and the women had seen a spider.
    :hmpf:

    I've edited it. :angel:
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    (Original post by Gamer99)
    Only to find he was a tailor doing his job and the women had seen a spider.
    :laugh:

    Oh, knowing Britains *unjust* justice system, you would probably get life imprisonment and a Sun Newspaper campaign championing you as the next Tony Martin.
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    This thread is really disturbing.
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    (Original post by Kagutsuchi)
    It'd probably be from saving you. :rolleyes:
    :emog:


    tbh I dont really know how the law looks at this:dontknow:
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    I'd love to kill a rapist. :moon:
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    would it not be self defence?
    I think it counts if your protecting another person aswell.

    However, this thread is very disturbing!
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    (Original post by Gamer99)
    Only to find he was a tailor doing his job and the women had seen a spider.
    Doing his job with his penis out!?

    Aaaah my bad, was edited afterward. Sorry.
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    (Original post by saab_101)
    Doing his job with his penis out!?
    OP edited his post, re-read my quoted bit of his original post
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    (Original post by kexy)
    This thread is really disturbing.
    Life is disturbing. :yes:
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    Involuntary Manslaughter probably :dontknow:
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    Man slaughter? But then again, since the person was a rapist, I don't think anybody would care.
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    (Original post by Nick_000)
    :laugh:

    Oh, knowing Britains *unjust* justice system, you would probably get life imprisonment and a Sun Newspaper campaign championing you as the next Tony Martin.
    Life imprisonment that lasts 7 years :p:
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    You could possibly be prosecuted, but most Juries probably wouldn't convict you. And even if they did, the judge would probably only give you the minimum sentence for manslaughter.
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    I doub't you'd go to jail, i mean surely the rape is mitigating? Im no lawyer though.
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    (Original post by elsa_89)
    I'd love to kill a rapist. :moon:
    I'd prefer to rape one. Irony value and all that. The rapist would probably enjoy it though. Dirty bugger.

    (Original post by Kagutsuchi)
    What would happen? (legally). It's not self-defence... would it be counted as vigilante actions? (which I assume to be illegal)...
    'Self-defence' is a bit of a misnomer. It applies both to yourself and any other victim of crime. It's perfectly legitimate to defend someone else from attack.

    Anyway, self-defence is not determined by outcome, but rather by the amount of force used. Is it possible to use proportionate and reasonable force, yet still kill someone.

    As a bit of a curiosity, I seem to remember one of Scotland's institutional legal writers (Viscount Stair?) saying that rape is equivalent to murder for self-defence purposes, and that it can be lawfully repelled with equal force.
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    (Original post by Kagutsuchi)
    I'm walking down the street and hear a scream round the corner in a dark alley. I rush over and see a man - with his penis out - holding a woman against the wall while cutting her dress with a knife. I rush over and in trying to save the woman, I end up killing the man in the struggle to get the knife out of his hands.

    What would happen? (legally). It's not self-defence... would it be counted as vigilante actions? (which I assume to be illegal)...
    Actually, it is self-defence. You're allowed to defend someone else with proportionate action.
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    You just saved a woman from being raped, surely she would take the rap for the killing, in which case it would be self-defence?
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    I think someone's been watching Oz...
 
 
 
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