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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    :facepalm2:

    Europeans face absolutely no external threat.

    They face many INTERNAL threats, but no country in their right mind will do anything to Europe.

    And the new powers of this world, India and China have no interest whatsoever in Europe (territorially).
    how can you predict the future? they could be big wars for oil and water and all sorts of things,even another world war.
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    (Original post by cpj1987)
    I'd rather my taxes went on benefits than war, personally.
    Me too, but it's to the healthcare of soldiers who have been injured... it wasn't their decision to go to war...


    (Original post by Quady)
    You want to take pensions away for bombs? Nice...
    No, just benefits..
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    (Original post by MrJolly1902)
    why the hell you Indians spend on defense when 800 million poor *******s
    How about because they have land border with a failed state, a border with somewhere that gets flooded all the time and another with China?
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    (Original post by Comp_Genius)
    No, just benefits..
    Since when wasn't state pension a benefit?
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    (Original post by MrJolly1902)
    how can you predict the future? they could be big wars for oil and water and all sorts of things,even another world war.
    You're an idiot.

    Oil will be obsolete within our lifetimes, and a replacement is not difficult OR expensive (atleast if we use ethanol from sugar cane).

    Wars for water? :facepalm2: Maybe in sub saharan africa. Is the UK located in sub saharan africa?

    Considering the stupidity of your previous statements, i'm actually going to go ahead and definitively answer this one for you: NO, the UK i not located in sub saharan africa.
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    (Original post by Comp_Genius)
    it wasn't their decision to go to war...
    I've managed not to. They picked their job. Not that I have any problem with soldiers receiving health care, of course.
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    (Original post by Quady)
    Since when wasn't state pension a benefit?
    When normally the people claiming it have worked most of their lives and are deserving of it?
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    (Original post by bourney)
    Or just put people on benefits in the armed forces.

    National Service for benefitee's.
    good idea.. but Britain would be invaded by midnight.. haha.
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    :facepalm2:

    Europeans face absolutely no external threat.

    They face many INTERNAL threats, but no country in their right mind will do anything to Europe.

    And the new powers of this world, India and China have no interest whatsoever in Europe (territorially).
    Not now no, but you have absolutely no idea what the future will bring. You may be an optimist but I would rather stay prepared.

    I'm thinking resurgent Russia, or perhaps the collapse of the EU could bring us to a ultimate Euro showdown, or perhaps space aliens could try and take 10% of the kids the possibilities are endless.
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    (Original post by Shortarse1)
    When normally the people claiming it have worked most of their lives and are deserving of it?
    You mean its dependent on NICs in the same way JSA is?
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    (Original post by Shaniqua)
    Yet there are a proportion who spend it on garbage, and they are the ones in question. Keep up, love.



    Source?



    An extensive string of lazy adjectives, which are suited to the playground certainly will not offend me. I suggest you take off your rose-tinted glasses and enter the real world, you're clearly drowning within a sea of socialist drivel.
    One of the problems of our current Government seems to be their obsession with watching and controlling everything we do (e.g. ID cards, their love for expansive databases, dubious use of anti-terror legislation). I reckon they already spend enough trying to find out who is committing benefit fraud without having to then analyse the spending patterns of those who receive benefits.

    The fact is that the majority of people on benefits deserve those benefits and don't spend it on frivolous things. The money lost in trying to find those who might be spending their benefits inappropriately may be greater than the money recouped.
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    You're an idiot.

    Oil will be obsolete within our lifetimes, and a replacement is not difficult OR expensive (atleast if we use ethanol from sugar cane).

    Wars for water? :facepalm2: Maybe in sub saharan africa. Is the UK located in sub saharan africa?

    Considering the stupidity of your previous statements, i'm actually going to go ahead and definitively answer this one for you: NO, the UK i not located in sub saharan africa.
    Go way, you don't know nothing about the world, you don't understand politics, and you know nothing of water.

    You know nothing about, trouble somewhere else can bring nations in to war by supprize.

    sugar cane? enough to power the whole world? land when needed for farming for food?
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    (Original post by Renner)
    Not now no, but you have absolutely no idea what the future will bring. You may be an optimist but I would rather stay prepared.

    I'm thinking resurgent Russia, or perhaps the collapse of the EU could bring us to a ultimate Euro showdown, or perhaps space aliens could try and take 10% of the kids the possibilities are endless.
    1) A resurgent Russia? :woo: Maybe in dreamland. Russia will no doubt recover but it will never be a threat to the west like it was in the past.
    2) Collapse of the EU? :facepalm2: The future of the world will be in trade blocs like the EU.
    3) :woo:

    (Original post by MrIdiot1902)
    Go way, you don't know nothing about the world, you don't understand politics, and you know nothing of water.

    You know nothing about, trouble somewhere else can bring nations in to war by supprize.

    sugar cane? enough to power the whole world? land when needed for farming for food?
    :rofl: Such dribble :rolleyes:

    I'll explain it to you anyway.

    I know much more about politics than you. Unlike you, i can form an argument without resorting to insults (although it is too darn fun to rip you apart :sad) and more importantly my argument is not based on delusion, hallucination or pure idiocy.

    If the world's suitable farming land was to be utilized with CURRENT agricultural techniques, we'd be able to feed a pop of 12.4 billion. So yes, forgive me for believing that we can easily power cars for the whole world with efficiently produced sugarcane ethanol.

    Yes, there's a difference between unexpected wars and insane speculation, the latter of which you seem to be employing quite excessively right now.
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    (Original post by Comp_Genius)
    That was my EXCAT reaction when I saw the news. 15 billions in benefits for housing alone compared to a few millions..

    I would rather my tax go to 'fradulent' (or not) soldiers who have been injured! Who could blame them for claiming the extra pennies when they are treated like crap when they come home. Or lazy people who can't be arsed to work...
    Thank you.

    Instead we have a country scared of immigrants, allowing them to shout abuse at our troops returning to their own country. Thankfully over the last few months peoples' opinions seem to be coming around to supporting our troops; unfortunately (and I'm not racist) we still house too many of these illegal b*stards!

    If they don't support our country's soldiers, then they can **** off back to where they came from. Far too many of them are on our benefits scheme and can't even speak a word of English, yet they're entitled to demonstrate against our boys coming home? It's ******* sick, and people like cpj1987 do nothing but help them with it, because they don't like fighting.

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    (Original post by cpj1987)
    I've managed not to. They picked their job. Not that I have any problem with soldiers receiving health care, of course.
    Sure - I think the majority just want to defend their country. Of course, there are a few who want to shoot and kill people...
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    (Original post by Shaniqua)
    So, you would rather your taxes went towards some scrounger buying a wide-screen TV, rather than going towards potentially protecting the lives of young people involved in the government's war? At least the war has some good intentions about it.

    What a repugnant thought process you have.
    Shouldn't generalise
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    1) A resurgent Russia? :woo: Maybe in dreamland. Russia will no doubt recover but it will never be a threat to the west like it was in the past.
    2) Collapse of the EU? :facepalm2: The future of the world will be in trade blocs like the EU.
    3) :woo:



    :rofl: Such dribble :rolleyes:
    Your type of fool, who would have said resurgent germany? hahah after world war 1

    then what happen?

    child go away, you know nothing of the mans world
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    (Original post by djmarkmclachlan)
    Good, honest people sweep the streets rather than sit on their arses "scrounging".
    A lot of people live on benefits because they are physically incapable of work. "Sweeping the streets" isn't an option for such people.

    A lot of very young single parents live on benefits because the alternative would mean abandoning their children to childcare services, to go off and do a minimum wage job like "sweeping the street" to earn so little that the bulk of it would be spent on said childcare in any case, and there wouldn't be enough left over for food or shoes.

    A lot of "benefits" is actually pension money, without which our old people would what just curl up and die? Or should people to old to be employed earn a wage by busking or something?

    A lot of so called "benefits" money is spent on tuition fees and grants, without which many intelligent people couldn't afford to go to university. And before you say "students pay back all their fees" - not if they don't get jobs earning more than £15000 a year they don't, and of course in a perfect no-benefits world, they wouldn't have the opportunity to search for jobs which suited their qualifications, because they'd be all too busy sweeping the streets.

    Yes there are benefits scroungers - but do you honestly believe that's what the government wants? You think Gordon Brown sits around giggling because he's handing over cash he could be spending on something that will win votes to someone who could get a job but is just too lazy? Noone likes the real scroungers, least of all the gov., seeing as they are being robbed most directly. That's why they have many departments investigating benefits fraud all the time, and that's why its soo bloody difficult atm for people genuinely in need of benefit money to get a penny.

    Unfortunately, a side-effect of looking after the needy is that you'll get the odd leech enjoying a free ride. IMO, the scroungers that don't get caught are worth helping the people who need help.

    I think you've been reading too much daily mail. I think everyone's been reading too much daily mail.
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    (Original post by Lefty Leo)
    1) A resurgent Russia? :woo: Maybe in dreamland. Russia will no doubt recover but it will never be a threat to the west like it was in the past.
    2) Collapse of the EU? :facepalm2: The future of the world will be in trade blocs like the EU.
    3) :woo:
    It’s unlikely, but don’t rule it out. I don’t think the military should just be for defence anyway
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    (Original post by djmarkmclachlan)
    Thank you.

    Instead we have a country scared of immigrants, allowing them to shout abuse at our troops returning to their own country. Thankfully over the last few months peoples' opinions seem to be coming around to supporting our troops; unfortunately (and I'm not racist) we still house too many of these illegal b*stards!

    If they don't support our country's soldiers, then they can **** off back to where they came from. Far too many of them are on our benefits scheme and can't even speak a word of English, yet they're entitled to demonstrate against our boys coming home? It's ******* sick, and people like cpj1987 do nothing but help them with it, because they don't like fighting.

    :top:


    Don't use the word "immigrants" trying to tar every one with the same brush.
    immigrants are made of all sort of races and culture,,and can not be generalized.
 
 
 
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