tongue piercing/tattoos - girlfriend material?

I think that the way you present yourself does display a lot about your character. I know this is probs not gonna go down well with a lot of people who read this post but i personally find tattoos & piercings trashy and they don't reflect well on the person. Also, i really hate to say it but you can't usually be very classy and intelligent and be the type who has a tattoo. You'd have to be a highly unusual person to have all those attributes. They don't mix well. So i personally know quite a few guys who wouldn't even hook up with girls with tattoos and piercings beyond the ears. Maybe this is just the environment that i have grown up in or something that makes me think this way, i don't know.

ok, intellect aside, to be classy surely you have to be tasteful? a woman with a lip/nose/toungue ring, hanging out of their clothes or with obvious fake orange tan may be beautiful or intelligent but in my opinion, not a classy girl.
im not clear how piercings link to promiscuiity though??

ok, intellect aside, to be classy surely you have to be tasteful? a woman with a lip/nose/toungue ring, hanging out of their clothes or with obvious fake orange tan may be beautiful or intelligent but in my opinion, not a classy girl.
im not clear how piercings link to promiscuiity though??

no but having trashy clothes OR fake tan OR piercings are all methods of self expression therefore by the same argument you are all putting forward, wearing obvious fake tan CAN look classy on the right person in the same way a face piercing can?

why aren't they allowed in job interviews and professional occupations eg accountants/lawyers if lip/tongue/eyebrow piercings are so classy and smart?

Which world are you living in? I have 5 tattoos and 3 piercings (not including ears). I was always top of my class throughout school, went to a grammar school, have straight A GCSEs (barring one B), 3 A grade A-levels and I study law at a top 5 university. I hate to base my intellect on exam grades alone (or at all, actually), but that is the only tangible proof that I have to give you. I would say I was classy but I suppose that is a matter of opinion. But I can tell you that I do not sleep around - I never have. The only sexual relationships I have had have been in long-term relationships, and even they were very few.

I think that it's fair to say you wouldn't go with a girl who was pierced/tattooed if it was something you did not find appealing to look at (we all have our own physical preferences)...but what you seem to be saying is that your position has developed from a character judgement you make of girls with body art. We all judge others.. it's a sad fact of life. But the sensible people are the ones who can recognise these judgements for what they are and realise that you cannot paint everyone with the same brush - and make a conscious effort not to act on these stereotypes. What you are doing is recognising your preconceptions and making a conscious effort to actually act upon them and use them as reasons not to be with someone. It's sad and really quite narrow minded that you wouldn't even bother getting to know the person first. I personally think that by living your life in that way you are going to miss out on so much, but that's just my opinion. I assume that you are happy in your little bubble. Myself, I like to experience as much as I can of the world and not letting my own prejudice get in the way of that. Each to their own I suppose.

Please note the word 'usually.' I'm alright in living in my 'bubble.' What's to say i don't get a very happy, diverse and fufilling/adventurous lifestyle by holding preconceptions. You seem to think i don't bother getting to know these people who have ''body art'' when in fact i do and 9/10 the stereotype holds true. I approach them with a preconception which i then assess as well as their character as i get to know them which actually extends further into human nature than you seem to appreciate. It's not narrow mindedness. I'm just saying that i've not met a single sophisticated and truly intelligent girl who has a tattoo. It just does not seem to go hand in hand. That's all i'm saying. Of course there are very big exceptions to that. Maybe you are as you claim to be - one of these highly exceptional people. Personnally i find it quite offensive that you have chalked me up to be narrow-minded from this post when in fact if one person was to prove this stereotype wrong within any period of time of me knowing them then i wouldn't hold this preconception. Not happened yet though and i doubt it will. It's like trying to find a rastafarian asian woman. they just don't seem to exist.

As for me describing it as 'trashy,' it's been a discussion between me and a very large group of male friends and it just seems to be the general consensus.

P.s. I never made any references to promiscuity in my first post all i described it as was 'trashy' which i define as lacking class.

If it's not something that would stop you getting to know somebody then I stand corrected. From your first post it seemed like you wouldn't even consider a girl who had a tattoo purely on that basis - and that is what I took from it, hence I gave you a quite heated response. As I said before, we all judge people - but as long as we don't use this judgements as reasons not to talk to, get to know or 'hook up' with someone then it's hardly an issue, so how you act (now that you have explained it further) isn't behaviour which I disagree with. I think I misunderstood what you were saying and I apologise for offending you as a result.

I do, however, find it strange that you think that intelligent/sophisticated women with tattoos are so few and far between. I guess it depends on the circles you mix in...I think we must lead very different lives.

I hope this addresses everything? I have had minimal sleep and barely know what I am typing currently.

You know what's quite funny, you may have just dented that stereotype of mine with the maturity and open-mindedness of your response .In any case I apologize for being a controversial douchebag and I think you just won this argument lol.

So guys.... you wouldn't date Kat Von D if you had the chance?!