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    i know the most common answer is because they are afraid but

    Why doesnt the mainstream news say the details....
    when i read CNN ..i was like wtf is "suspect in religious clothing and ready to go to war".... when a christian priest does a murder, the media goes all crazy identfying how he is christian and religious etc

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/16/...tml#cnnSTCText


    but after some more investigation

    this artilce mentions the name of the suspects which are muslim and that she was wearing a big green robe and scarf aka "Burka and Hijab"
    http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...recovered.html


    then this article states that all he did was listen to islamic radio and QURAN teachings


    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...J4U4QD99GGE080


    my only beef is when the media isnt' fair....why do they mention when it is a christian or jew when they dont need to , but in this case, he was extreme muslim convert, and didnt want to release that
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    Because there's been a lot of discrimination based on someone being Muslim, and most people don't want to get in trouble for it (be it actual trouble or just bad publicity)
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    Because, let's be honest, Religion is ancient fairytales used to exploit people. It should be ridiculued.
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    (Original post by SensiDub)
    Because, let's be honest, Religion is ancient fairytales used to exploit people. It should be ridiculued.

    The truth.
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    There are often very dangerous consequences for criticising Islam in any way; to an extent that journalists are scared to do this. Other religions, namely Christianity, are often freely criticised in the media because there are virtually no consequences; it's not fairly really, is it?
    http://www.religionnewsblog.com/19540/ayaan-hirsi-ali-5
    "Ayaan Hirsi Ali, threatened with death for her anti-Islam writings"

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...rchbishop.html

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/arti...ian_Journalist
    '...a journalist for a Canadian-Pakistani paper was savagely beaten by two Muslim men who demanded that he “stop writing against Islam.”'
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    (Original post by star_5)
    There are often very dangerous consequences for criticising Islam in any way; to an extent that journalists are scared to do this. Other religions, namely Christianity, are often freely criticised in the media because there are virtually no consequences; it's not fairly really, is it?
    http://www.religionnewsblog.com/19540/ayaan-hirsi-ali-5
    "Ayaan Hirsi Ali, threatened with death for her anti-Islam writings"

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...rchbishop.html

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/arti...ian_Journalist
    '...a journalist for a Canadian-Pakistani paper was savagely beaten by two Muslim men who demanded that he “stop writing against Islam.”'

    I see no problem with this, Muslim writers, journalists never criticize Christianity/Judaism even Hinduism.

    Leave them and their religion alone, that's all they ask.....
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    (Original post by BenjyUK)
    The truth.
    Lies.
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    (Original post by star_5)
    There are often very dangerous consequences for criticising Islam in any way; to an extent that journalists are scared to do this. Other religions, namely Christianity, are often freely criticised in the media because there are virtually no consequences; it's not fairly really, is it?
    http://www.religionnewsblog.com/19540/ayaan-hirsi-ali-5
    "Ayaan Hirsi Ali, threatened with death for her anti-Islam writings"

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...rchbishop.html

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/arti...ian_Journalist
    '...a journalist for a Canadian-Pakistani paper was savagely beaten by two Muslim men who demanded that he “stop writing against Islam.”'
    On the other hand though, whenever a crime is carried out by someone who's Muslim. The religion they practise is nearly always pointed out by some newspapers, whereas normally religion does not even come into it.

    As for people who 'bash' Islam. I'm a Muslim and free speech and all that jazz dictates these people be allowed to say what they want. If it's out in the open at least it's easier to try and change negative perceptions.
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    (Original post by Diaz89)
    I see no problem with this, Muslim writers, journalists never criticize Christianity/Judaism even Hinduism.

    Leave them and their religion alone, that's all they ask.....
    This wasn't the point I was trying to make. I meant that (possibly atheist) journalists etc are too scared to criticise Islam but are all too ready to criticise Christianity because there are less consequences and so it is an easier target. For example, Ayaan Hirsi Ali (who I mentioned in my previous post) was threatened to death for writing negatively about Islam, but she isn't a Christian (as far as I know...)
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    (Original post by star_5)
    There are often very dangerous consequences for criticising Islam in any way; to an extent that journalists are scared to do this. Other religions, namely Christianity, are often freely criticised in the media because there are virtually no consequences; it's not fairly really, is it?
    http://www.religionnewsblog.com/19540/ayaan-hirsi-ali-5
    "Ayaan Hirsi Ali, threatened with death for her anti-Islam writings"

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...rchbishop.html

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/arti...ian_Journalist
    '...a journalist for a Canadian-Pakistani paper was savagely beaten by two Muslim men who demanded that he “stop writing against Islam.”'
    Because Christianity is a religion of peace.
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    (Original post by starsdream2)
    On the other hand though, whenever a crime is carried out by someone who's Muslim. The religion they practise is nearly always pointed out by some newspapers, whereas normally religion does not even come into it.
    In these cases, is their religion mentioned because it is the motive for the attack, i.e. terrorist attacks? If this isn't the case, then I don't know why the fact that they are a Muslim would be mentioned.

    (Original post by starsdream2)
    As for people who 'bash' Islam. I'm a Muslim and free speech and all that jazz dictates these people be allowed to say what they want. If it's out in the open at least it's easier to try and change negative perceptions
    I completely agree with you here.
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    (Original post by star_5)
    This wasn't the point I was trying to make. I meant that (possibly atheist) journalists etc are too scared to criticise Islam but are all too ready to criticise Christianity because there are less consequences and so it is an easier target. For example, Ayaan Hirsi Ali (who I mentioned in my previous post) was threatened to death for writing negatively about Islam, but she isn't a Christian (as far as I know...)
    Not necessarily, it will be very soon illegal in Western Secular Ireland to blaspheme and any such act will carry a fine of 25,000 Euros.

    Most criticisms towards Islam are not criticisms they're insults. Calling the Prophet Of Islam a "pervert" as Ayaan Hirsi Ali did, is not criticism.
    Most "criticisms" towards Muslims are made by people who know literally jack-s**t Ayaan Hirsi Ali said she lost her faith in Islam because she questioned herself as to why she should go to hell for drinking Alcohol which is not a sin that sever under Islam.

    Muslims have always accepted criticism towards their religion but when you insult it, like those Muhammed cartoon you can't claim to be a victim.
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    Not another one of these threads...

    God, TSR is infested!! The whole debate begs the question: Who really cares anymore?
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    (Original post by star_5)
    In these cases, is their religion mentioned because it is the motive for the attack, i.e. terrorist attacks? If this isn't the case, then I don't know why the fact that they are a Muslim would be mentioned.


    I completely agree with you here.
    I mean cases in which religion is not even a factor. One of the ones I can think of is when that Lord Ahmed was jailed for the whole texting issue and the headlines of a few newspapers seemed to point out he was Muslim, as if that was anything to do with what happened.
    Our english teacher was pretty pissed of about that one.
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    (Original post by Diaz89)
    Not necessarily, it will be very soon illegal in Western Secular Ireland to blaspheme and any such act will carry a fine of 25,000 Euros.

    Most criticisms towards Islam are not criticisms they're insults. Calling the Prophet Of Islam a "pervert" as Ayaan Hirsi Ali did, is not criticism.
    Most "criticisms" towards Muslims are made by people who know literally jack-s**t Ayaan Hirsi Ali said she lost her faith in Islam because she questioned herself as to why she should go to hell for drinking Alcohol which is not a sin that sever under Islam.

    Muslims have always accepted criticism towards their religion but when you insult it, like those Muhammed cartoon you can't claim to be a victim.
    Even if people do insult Islam, I don't think that they should be sent death threats because of it, or anything as extreme as that! The very fact that so much controversy was caused because of what Ayaan Hirsi Ali said, (which I'll admit was disgusting and wrong) shows how severe the consequences can be for attacking/criticising/insulting Islam in any way. Countless blasphemous things are said about God on a daily basis (google it and you'll see the youtube vids) but the perpetrators aren't sent death threats! Surely you can agree that there is far less freedom of speech concerning Islam compared to Christianity?
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    (Original post by starsdream2)
    I mean cases in which religion is not even a factor. One of the ones I can think of is when that Lord Ahmed was jailed for the whole texting issue and the headlines of a few newspapers seemed to point out he was Muslim, as if that was anything to do with what happened.
    Our english teacher was pretty pissed of about that one.
    Well, as Islam didn't provide the motive for this crime then it's unnecessary to point it out, as I said in my previous post.
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    (Original post by star_5)
    Even if people do insult Islam, I don't think that they should be sent death threats because of it, or anything as extreme as that! The very fact that so much controversy was caused because of what Ayaan Hirsi Ali said, (which I'll admit was disgusting and wrong) shows how severe the consequences can be for attacking/criticising/insulting Islam in any way. Countless blasphemous things are said about God on a daily basis (google it and you'll see the youtube vids) but the perpetrators aren't sent death threats! Surely you can agree that there is far less freedom of speech concerning Islam compared to Christianity?
    I totally agree with you that people should be more open minded and less aggressive when it comes to their religion. It fired back on Muslims in the end anyway. They've been made to look like perpetually angry intolerant people.
 
 
 
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