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  • View Poll Results: The government should only subsidise courses for people who have achieved an 'A'
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    (Original post by Bagration)
    I meant it isn't right. At the moment you are absolutely correct that people are forced to pay tax to subsidise's someone who wants to go to uni for "the experience." What I should have said is "The taxpayers ought not to be obligated to pay for x"
    How do you filter out the 'experience' people?

    Also most people posting disagree, but the vote itself is quite even, so perhaps some of the people in the middle group could step foward out of the shadows.
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    (Original post by Bagration)
    I meant it isn't right. At the moment you are absolutely correct that people are forced to pay tax to subsidise's someone who wants to go to uni for "the experience." What I should have said is "The taxpayers ought not to be obligated to pay for x"
    well in that respect, if by uni experience ACS means 'solely drinking' then i agree 100%

    BUT, i understand the uni experience as the balance between work and fun in general, others may define uni life as pure work or pure drinking (extremes) so i would encourage people to to subsidise the uni experience if the 'uni experience' is how i view it to be (or hoep to, i'm not at uni yet :P)
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    (Original post by DeeDub)
    How do you filter out the 'experience' people?

    Also most people posting disagree, but the vote itself is quite even, so perhaps some of the people in the middle group could step foward out of the shadows.
    Tbh, I think that while this measure is harsh, if we ever needed to cut funding desperately, it would work well. People with at least an A are going to an internationally competitive university -- regardless of the fact they may or may not be going for "the experience." This is going to sound bad but IMO it seems that the people going for the lower unis are more likely to go for "experience." that said I know some people who genuinely deserve to go to Uni but wouldnt be able to afford it otherwise so I'm going to say I ticked the wrong box (Wholeheartedly Agree)
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    (Original post by ronaldo91)
    well in that respect, if by uni experience ACS means 'solely drinking' then i agree 100%

    BUT, i understand the uni experience as the balance between work and fun in general, others may define uni life as pure work or pure drinking (extremes) so i would encourage people to to subsidise the uni experience if the 'uni experience' is how i view it to be (or hoep to, i'm not at uni yet :P)
    I agree on the last point but IMO the "Uni experience" is also about independence and learning to live by yourself, one reason I disagree with catered halls tbh

    then again im not there either XD
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    (Original post by Bagration)
    Tbh, I think that while this measure is harsh, if we ever needed to cut funding desperately, it would work well. People with at least an A are going to an internationally competitive university -- regardless of the fact they may or may not be going for "the experience." This is going to sound bad but IMO it seems that the people going for the lower unis are more likely to go for "experience." that said I know some people who genuinely deserve to go to Uni but wouldnt be able to afford it otherwise so I'm going to say I ticked the wrong box (Wholeheartedly Agree)
    Do you not think this would hurt social mobility though? As someone said previously children from more affluent families often go to better schools and get better results. There were news stories today saying that the increase in social mobility had stalled:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8160052.stm.
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    (Original post by DeeDub)
    Do you not think this would hurt social mobility though? As someone said previously children from more affluent families often go to better schools and get better results. There were news stories today saying that the increase in social mobility had stalled:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8160052.stm.
    I don't really care.
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    (Original post by Bagration)
    I don't really care.
    But surely a resurgence of class warfare is not something that would beneficial to the economy either.
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    BBB in Maths, Physics and Chemistry would be better then AAA in Psychology, Philosophy and ICT. So the system would have to take account of this for example.
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    I do think we need less people joining universities for the ''uni experience'' however I have to blame the universities themselves for that partly as many market themselves as being in party towns and having an excellent nightlife. Yes, there will always be students who go to university because of this and yes, most students enjoy a drink and there's nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is universities attracting the wrong type of students in their prospectuses.

    I think this threshold is too high as my friend got BBC at A level and has done the first year of her degree -I certainly believe she deserves it!! I don't think anydegree is worthless but I do think some vocational courses would be better off in a non university setting.
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    your going to have even fewer people going to university. there's going to be less specialism for jobs. It's the worst thing you can do.
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    Disagree. I got BBC at A-Level and have gone on to achieve a First, a best-in-year award, a Distinction for my MA (from UCL), AHRC funding for both MA and PhD, and have published both academic work and fiction.

    I was a different person when I was 17/18 and found A-Level painfully tedious. For snotty undergrads/sixth-formers to say that someone with Bs and Cs should have taken a 'less academic' route is extremely patronising.
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    disagree: because every student has its own potential ability, not everyone can hit all A's
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    I think there should be a minimum UCAS score (maybe something equivalent to BBBb), - this would stop wastes from going just for the "experience", and would help put an end to mickey mouse ridiculous degrees which really dont have value to anybody.
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    No, I don't agree with this. Firstly, they could do it in a subject unrelated to their degree which they find easy. Secondly, many people improve once they get to uni and may do better than some other students who got better A-Levels. I don't even think they should need an A in the subject they want to study. I know that I certainly didn't and I finished on a 2:1 this year. People reach their best academically at different ages I think.
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    (Original post by Solid_Snake_100)
    I think there should be a minimum UCAS score (maybe something equivalent to BBBb),
    You know that BBBb is half way between AAB and AAA, right?
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    I think a reasonably similar proposal would be OK, but this example is a bit too simplistic; obviously, ADD, with the A in IT or Film or whatever is hardly better than BBB in Maths, Further Maths and Physics, but I do somewhat agree that utterly non-academic people should perhaps not be going to University
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    I think this is a retarded idea, I got BCE for my A-levels, I got into uni to do a foundation year and now I have the equivalent of AAB + BCE.




    A-Levels =/= intelligence.
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    right idea, wrong threshold.

    CCC and above excluding General studies is more like it.

    and if you are JUST going to uni for the experience (living alone(ish) and getting wasted 247) then you should definitely not get subsidized. think of it this way...would you want to pay for some chavvy nutjob to spend a year drinking and then dropout? errrrr no. you wouldn't.

    personally, i wouldn't subsidise it at all.

    uni should be about investing time (AND MONEY!) in better yourself and your future. it shouldn't be a "right".
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    i just had the best idea ever:

    if someone drops out of uni, or fails uni, they should have to pay back their fair share of subsidy.

    if only the politricks people had more balls...
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    There should be some standard, but if this particular rule was introduced a nuber of universities would have trouble filling places.
 
 
 
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