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Reply 40

:/. I'm not actually convinced by the whole "Detox is a myth" thing. I'm pretty sure your body can lay down toxins in fat cells, so going on one of these detox diets that burns the fat cells releases them into your bloodstream, so they can be excreted. Which could work.

Apart from the fact that doesn't stop it being a really bad idea, because releasing a load of toxins into your system all in one go and not eating anything just doesn't sound clever.

According to one of my old science teachers, that's why a load of women got really ill/died when twiggy was popular - they all went on crash-diets, after eating food covered in pesticides for ages. I think it would be a far better to just eat sensibly, try and cut excess chemicals out by washing food thoroughly, or having homegrown/organic etc. exercise on a regular basis, don't get overweight, and drink plenty of water.

Have to admit, it sounds a lot easier to just starve for a few days and make a wish on the moon though...

Reply 41

so you basically dont eat anything for 24 hrs?

Reply 42

mipegg
Not at all, degrees are hard. But the Alevels? Not at all :rolleyes:

:yes: i agreee :smile:

Reply 43

laurenn.
so you basically dont eat anything for 24 hrs?


yes

Reply 44

meandmyimaginaryfriend
:/. I'm not actually convinced by the whole "Detox is a myth" thing. I'm pretty sure your body can lay down toxins in fat cells, so going on one of these detox diets that burns the fat cells releases them into your bloodstream, so they can be excreted. Which could work.

Apart from the fact that doesn't stop it being a really bad idea, because releasing a load of toxins into your system all in one go and not eating anything just doesn't sound clever.

According to one of my old science teachers, that's why a load of women got really ill/died when twiggy was popular - they all went on crash-diets, after eating food covered in pesticides for ages. I think it would be a far better to just eat sensibly, try and cut excess chemicals out by washing food thoroughly, or having homegrown/organic etc. exercise on a regular basis, don't get overweight, and drink plenty of water.

Have to admit, it sounds a lot easier to just starve for a few days and make a wish on the moon though...



First point: Your opinion vs scientific proof

Second point: Your body stores fat in fat cells, hense the name

Third point: A detox is more than likely going to make your body shed some muscle and not too much fat, releasing potassium into the blood stream which is poisonous...

Reply 45

Sounds like a highly constructive few days and a very important issue, well ******* done.

Reply 46

mipegg
Not at all, degrees are hard. But the Alevels? Not at all :rolleyes:

No experience with law and media studies, but A2 psychology was quite hard. The concensus among people doing both courses at my school was that it was harder than A2 biology, pretty much universally I think.

Reply 47

burningnun
No experience with law and media studies, but A2 psychology was quite hard. The concensus among people doing both courses at my school was that it was harder than A2 biology, pretty much universally I think.


Fair enough, Iv only ever been in an AS psychology class. Im a 1 trick horse see. Maths, maths, maths and maths

Reply 48

Gabriela
The moon "diet", sorry for the word but i don't know what to call it, is based on the study of the moon's gravity and it's influence on the body fluids. :smile:


Which comic did you read that in?

Seriously it's a load of ********, speak to any medical professional and they'd tell you the same.

Gabriela
I know that and i know you are right about the water loss, it's even funny because the water you drink is most prob the one you lose, but it is not meant to harm you if it is only for 24 hrs.

BTW everyone is taking this far too seriously... i don't even know if i will last even 5 hours without food, but there's no harm in trying.


Sure it's unlikely that you will do yourself any harm, but equally you're unlikely to do yourself any good.

Why bother?

Maybe it's just an attention seeking exercise :dontknow:

meandmyimaginaryfriend
:/. I'm not actually convinced by the whole "Detox is a myth" thing.


There is little or no evidence that 'detoxing' or 'cleansing' has any benefit. Surely if it was that beneficial we'd have heard by now and we wouldn't have 10s if not 100s of studies proclaiming that it is BS.

meandmyimaginaryfriend
I'm pretty sure your body can lay down toxins in fat cells, so going on one of these detox diets that burns the fat cells releases them into your bloodstream, so they can be excreted. Which could work.


You cannot lose fat cells without surgery. You can reduce the quantities of lipid droplets within adipose and decrease the size of fat cells but you can't lose them completely.

Now tell me what happens to these toxins if we are to assume what you're saying is true?

meandmyimaginaryfriend
According to one of my old science teachers, that's why a load of women got really ill/died when twiggy was popular - they all went on crash-diets, after eating food covered in pesticides for ages. I think it would be a far better to just eat sensibly, try and cut excess chemicals out by washing food thoroughly, or having homegrown/organic etc. exercise on a regular basis, don't get overweight, and drink plenty of water.


No the defining factor here was that they were starving themselves for extended periods of time.

Reply 49

How about we all eat regular balanced meals and snacks, eat from hunger and lack of energy so that the food does us good, and see food as something to be enjoyed in a balanced and moderate way, instead of something to invent shiny new ways every week to avoid?

Oh no, that would be far too terrifying a concept, wouldn't it? Jeez.

Reply 50

mipegg
Fair enough, Iv only ever been in an AS psychology class. Im a 1 trick horse see. Maths, maths, maths and maths

That's OK, the journalists who like to wax lyrical about "soft subjects" have never been in those classes either. Actually, this phenomenon is just about universal. The people who talk **** about equipped lifters are always raw, the people who call bodybuilders gay have never been in competition shape themselves and the guys who talk **** about drug users are always "lifetime natty."

Talking down other people's accomplishments and knowing what the **** you are talking about are almost always mutually exclusive.

Reply 51

Gabriela
yes

but wont you be like REALLLY hungry

Reply 52

This is not healthy. There is no need to 'detox'. Your liver does it all for you... and its had billions of years practise. If you want to be healthy, eat a consistent well balanced diet. Don't buy into any of this new-age crap.

Reply 53

The moon link with this is complete rubbish but the concept of a short 24 hour fast is not a bad one, I think. It gives your system a chance to clean itself out. I've done it before and it's a pretty good feeling; you get hungry about five hours in but after that it just goes away and you get plenty of energy (actually I find it's quite good doing quite active stuff in this state because you have the same energy as if you'd just had a proper meal but without the risk of getting a stitch or something). It works for me anyway, once in a while. 24 hours is really not long enough to push your body into starvation mode anyway.

Although obviously any great weight loss that comes off this is simply going to be loss of water retention.

Reply 54

Sprockette
As coffee is a toxin (I think?) I'd say it'd be a no. Though you've probably come to that conclusion by now anyway!


Reply 55

Gabriela
i have decided to go on this moon "diet" starting tomorrow morning?
has anyone been on it? does it have a yo-yo effect?(i know it's only a detox diet, not a fat-loss one)

Can you drink coffee during the 24 hours or not?

Thank you




Two slaps in one thread!! They were needed.

Reply 56

catzrin
The moon link with this is complete rubbish but the concept of a short 24 hour fast is not a bad one, I think. It gives your system a chance to clean itself out. I've done it before and it's a pretty good feeling; you get hungry about five hours in but after that it just goes away and you get plenty of energy (actually I find it's quite good doing quite active stuff in this state because you have the same energy as if you'd just had a proper meal but without the risk of getting a stitch or something). It works for me anyway, once in a while. 24 hours is really not long enough to push your body into starvation mode anyway.

Although obviously any great weight loss that comes off this is simply going to be loss of water retention.


Your system doesn't need a chance to clean itself out though. Where's this mystery energy coming from? Your energy stores. It's not good for you and even worse to be exercising while doing it.

Reply 57

SMed


Two slaps in one thread!! They were needed.


Explanation is also needed. Obviously.

Reply 58

Sprockette
Explanation is also needed. Obviously.

Coffee is not a toxin. Is it obvious now?

Reply 59

SMed
Coffee is not a toxin. Is it obvious now?


I thought caffeine was a sort of toxin and cut out of detox diets. I know stimulants and toxins are different but...