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    Hello all,

    Been playing guitar since the start of this year, just been teaching myself on a Washburn acoustic I got for Christmas. Getting on pretty well. I've been wanting to get an electric for a while and decided to start properly looking. Hoping to spend around £200ish, maybe £250, will look at second hand guitars. I've seen a few Ibanez guitars, but from reading reviews, they seem to just be good for metal music. Is this the case? I do play a bit of metal but not much, mostly sort of stuff like RHCP, Jeff Buckley, Death Cab, Paramore, Nick Drake, Eva Cassidy, quite a mix of stuff, mostly rock with a bit of sort of country-ish/blue-sy stuff. Anything really, basically I don't want a guitar specialised to one type of music. Anyone with a bit more experience with electrics fancy giving me some guidance and pointing me in the right direction? A friend has recommended a Fender Tele or Strat, would it be possible to pick one up for about the £250 mark? Thanks in advance!
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    The Fender Squier, which is very similar in design to the Stratocaster, is only about £160, and is supposed to be good for beginners (haha I'm getting one soon! ), maybe that would be suitable?
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    Get yourself an epiphone :yep:
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    (Original post by Cowboy Dan)
    The Fender Squier, which is very similar in design to the Stratocaster, is only about £160, and is supposed to be good for beginners (haha I'm getting one soon! ), maybe that would be suitable?
    not for her second guitar i wouldn't, as a beginner's guitar though it's fine
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    Hi, comes down to what neck shape you find comfortable ( e.g. a rock strat type guitar like the Ibanez, will have a flat, slim neck, whilst a strat or tele will have more of a v or club type profile ). After that, think about the pickups it has - single coil pickups will sound quite clean and thin whilst humbuckers will sound thicker and a bit more rocky. If you like a mix or rock / metal and general pop type stuff then then an ibanez / yamaha would be a good all round choice. If more poppy then a strat or tele would be great for you, if more rock, then any of the epiphone ones ( thicker sound ) would be good.
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    Tokai would be good, they're better than Squiers and Epiphones. The Japanese made ones are supposed to be nicer than Gibsons. They do several styles including LPs and SGs. Korean made ones are around the £200-£300 mark.

    You'll probably want a guitar with humbuckers for your styles of music, which all of the ones below have. Tokai guitars appear all the time on richtonemusic.co.uk

    Having said that I own an Ibanez RG, and it's very versatile. Has 2 humbuckers and 1 single coil with 5 combinations available to use. I replaced the bridge pickup with a Swineshead Venom and it's amazing for anything from lighter rock through to full on death metal. A lot of Ibanezs' come with floating tremolos though, which are a pain for beginners to deal with.

    Also, what amp are do you have/are you getting? I can tell you good amps for your styles for whatever budget you have.



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    More, all from richtone and all under £300:


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    My first decent electric was an Ibanez GRG; I payed 220 for it.

    Yes, they're designed to be pretty metally guitars, but those humbuckers mean you get a decent clean tone too. But, considering the tastes you described, I'd get a Squier Strat I reckon. (A real Mexican Fender Standard Strat is only about 300 if you can push up to that budget.)

    But I am a little bit of an old school purist when it comes to guitars, and I know there are loadsss of good entry and mid-level guitars about nowadays, so shop around a bit, read reviews, try some in shops and see what takes your fancy really

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    Thanks for all the help everyone, gave me a lot to consider I had a look at those Tokai guitars which I wouldn't have considered before and they seem very decent for the price so I'll look into them. A guitar shop nearish me stocks them so I think the best thing is just to go up there and try a few and see what I think.
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    Also, what amp are do you have/are you getting? I can tell you good amps for your styles for whatever budget you have.
    Currently don't have an amp, really unsure how much I should budget for this. I would like half decent sound quality from it, but it doesn't need to be top of the range. How much would I be expecting to pay for something of a decent quality, and if you could recommend some amps it would be much appreciated because I am rather clueless in this area!
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    (Original post by uthred50)
    (A real Mexican Fender Standard Strat is only about 300 if you can push up to that budget.)
    This! It will be a far superior guitar and will have decent resale value if it went that way in the future. All depends on budget of course.

    I have also heard good thinkgs and yamaha pacificas which are cheaper but I havent played on myself.

    As for amps I would like at roland or Vox. Most manufacturers make cheap amps. I had a marshall mg series when I first got an electric, sounds pretty awful!
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    Just remember to never get a squire
    Ibanez isn't only good for metal. I reckon one of the reasons they come off as metal guitars is because of the very thin necks which are useful for shredding. Having small hands I find 'em very comfortable.
    Everything else has already been said so I'll finish here.
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    (Original post by MySweetheartTheDrunk)
    Currently don't have an amp, really unsure how much I should budget for this. I would like half decent sound quality from it, but it doesn't need to be top of the range. How much would I be expecting to pay for something of a decent quality, and if you could recommend some amps it would be much appreciated because I am rather clueless in this area!
    Sorry I forgot about this thread until it was bumped lol. I'd suggest never spending less than £100 on an amp, they tend to be quite nasty. Here's a few options:

    Peavey Vypr 30 - £159
    http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/77819

    This is a modelling amp, which means it can pretend to be lots of different expensive amps. They make good practice amps due to the range of sounds you can get out of it but the quality will never be as good as the actual expensive amps it pretends to be. They have lots of effects built in as well which can be fun to play around with.

    Blackstar HT-5 5W combo - £299
    http://www.andertons.co.uk/Blackstar...GoogleShopping

    This is what's know as a valve amp (or tube amp in america). It uses valves (vacuum tubes) instead of transistors like the amp above (which is called solid state). Valves are generally found in the more expensive amps as they are generally thought to sound warmer and more "organic". This amp would have less of a range of sounds, but the ones it did have would sound better. These are awesome little amps. Only 5 watts but it will be surprisingly loud if you crank it (not to mention sounding amazing). Valve amps sound better the louder they get usually. There's a video demo on the link above to andertons, sounds very nice. The downside is valves are a bit like light bulbs in that they can blow occasionally. It's not hard to put in replacements but new valves tend to be £5-10 each. (You'd only have to replace 1 or 2 if they went though, and they should last months to years.

    Basically it boils down to whether you want lots of good sounds, or a few great ones. There's a few more options for each type of amp but it's best if you decide which way you want to go first.

    You may have guessed I'm a valve amp fan lol. This is what I have:
    http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/...king-112/68946

    It's not amazing but is pretty good for the price. The blackstar is nicer though, but not as loud as my monster of an amp
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    (Original post by Lapis lazuli)
    This! It will be a far superior guitar and will have decent resale value if it went that way in the future. All depends on budget of course.
    It won't have decent resale value because it's a Mexican.. :P

    I'd recommend the Yahama Pacifica, it's a fairly standard 'first guitar' and many people recommend it.

    Ibanez are basically only for metal, at least the RG series is. The fact it has dual humbuckers means you don't get a very good tone from them other than metal tones. I tried one through my Orange amp, and even then it sounded bad!
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    Humbuckers are great for all kinds of music, the neck in particular is good for smooth bluesy tones. Even with high output ones like mine I can back off the volume a little or just run it through a clean channel to play jazz or blues or whatever. I'd suggest looking at your amp settings.
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    (Original post by White Zenith)
    It won't have decent resale value because it's a Mexican.. :P
    They will in comparison to a squire or a pacifica, which will be practically worthless second hand.
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    Get this:


    Round guitars FTL, especially ones by Fender or Gibson.
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    (Original post by CapenCyber)
    Get this:


    Round guitars FTL, especially ones by Fender or Gibson.
    Is that a Ran? They're expensive aren't they?

    Eventually I will get a custom guitar made by them. One day. Maybe. :eek3:
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    (Original post by del1507)
    Is that a Ran? They're expensive aren't they?

    Eventually I will get a custom guitar made by them. One day. Maybe. :eek3:

    Yeah tis indeed a Ran, my student loan paid for it!
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    (Original post by CapenCyber)
    Yeah tis indeed a Ran, my student loan paid for it!
    Now THAT is a good use of a student loan. :drool:

    What's it play like?
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    Like a guitar made almost entirely of money. Cold hard cash.
 
 
 
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