Hey there! Sign in to join this conversationNew here? Join for free

General Election 2010 - Who would you vote for? watch

  • View Poll Results: General Election 2010 - Who would you vote for?
    Conservative
    28.17%
    Labour
    20.43%
    Liberal Democrat
    23.22%
    Green
    6.81%
    UKIP
    5.26%
    BNP
    3.72%
    Libertarian
    5.26%
    Respect
    0.62%
    SNP
    1.86%
    DUP
    0.31%
    Sinn Fein
    1.24%
    Plaid Cymru
    0.31%
    SDLP
    0.31%
    UUP
    0
    0%
    Health Concern
    0.31%
    Independant/Other
    2.17%

    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by NEVERYOUMIND)
    that would be the LibDems you silly nonce. lol. and the bit about clegg being a tory-sympathiser made me laugh too.
    no, not really.
    Offline

    16
    ReputationRep:
    It is nice to see a decent amount of liberatarian voters however you are taking votes away from the conservatives and it is vital that we kick out that scottish socialist Gordon Brown.
    Offline

    12
    (Original post by usainlightning)
    It is nice to see a decent amount of liberatarian voters however you are taking votes away from the conservatives and it is vital that we kick out that scottish socialist Gordon Brown.
    Blue labour? No thanks ...

    I'd sooner vote lib dem anyways.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by mfm89)
    no, not really.
    what do you mean ' not really'? sure there's SOME centre-left MPs in labour but the vast majority are new labour which is right-wing. while the LibDems, especially with their tax policy, is centre-left. they stand up for the centre-left much better than the centre-left MPs in the lbaour party. i mean cmon what tax policy do they offer? does it include permanant tax cuts for working and middle class people and a promise to clampdown on tax avoidance? cos if it doesnt and you're centre-left, you're in the wrong party cos labour aint what it used to be.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by NEVERYOUMIND)
    what do you mean ' not really'? sure there's SOME centre-left MPs in labour but the vast majority are new labour which is right-wing. while the LibDems, especially with their tax policy, is centre-left. they stand up for the centre-left much better than the centre-left MPs in the lbaour party. i mean cmon what tax policy do they offer? does it include permanant tax cuts for working and middle class people and a promise to clampdown on tax avoidance? cos if it doesnt and you're centre-left, you're in the wrong party cos labour aint what it used to be.
    Labour is turning back into old Labour so don't go there.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by NEVERYOUMIND)
    what do you mean ' not really'? sure there's SOME centre-left MPs in labour but the vast majority are new labour which is right-wing. while the LibDems, especially with their tax policy, is centre-left. they stand up for the centre-left much better than the centre-left MPs in the lbaour party. i mean cmon what tax policy do they offer? does it include permanant tax cuts for working and middle class people and a promise to clampdown on tax avoidance? cos if it doesnt and you're centre-left, you're in the wrong party cos labour aint what it used to be.
    There is a massive disparity between the membership of the labour party and a many MPs with that of the current leadership. When Labour lose the election they are not going to start thinking..'oh well, lets just stick with those things that riled the electorate the most, 10p tax, smoozing with big business etc', what they will do is stick up for what the labour party has and always will stand for, funding education, investment in welfare to work, redevelopment of deprived areas, surestart, tax credits (or hopefully a more efficient system, but the motive is right) minimum wage, and the 50% tax rate for high earners. The labour party despite what the leadership would want, is still home to credible and important debate on centre left issues. New Labour was for its time, that was accepted by the party, its already moving on despite Brown. And who is it that will survive the election, certainly see Diane Abbott more likely to stay than Jacqui Smith.

    Plenty of nice ideas have come from the LDs over the years, but I don't think much of Clegg, and i certainly see little promise when they've actually gained power locally. If there was a hung parliament or just a narrow majority for the Tories, I can't see any 3rd party making even an informal alliance with a Labour party thats been kicked in the nuts by the electorate and the electoral system will still deny the LDs a decent enough position.

    Of course we'll have to wait 4-5 years to see where the social democrats are, who has the loudest voice. Also depends on what the Tories will do, if the electorate will be listening to the centre left.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    Liberal democrat.
    Offline

    11
    ReputationRep:
    If i was on the mainland Conservative.

    Back home...hard to know really. A unionist candidate of some description but in my constituency that isn't particularly important as it's always unionism that wins.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by technik)
    If i was on the mainland Conservative.

    Back home...hard to know really. A unionist candidate of some description but in my constituency that isn't particularly important as it's always unionism that wins.
    I'm guessing its Isles of Scilly?
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    Conservatives. Labour has turned me from a Red to a Blue. I'm hoping for some tougher action on Immigration and fresh minded politicans who haven't spent the last 10 years in power.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Afcwimbledon2)
    I'm guessing its Isles of Scilly?
    please tell me that was a joke........


    (Original post by Stettin)
    Conservatives. Labour has turned me from a Red to a Blue. I'm hoping for some tougher action on Immigration and fresh minded politicans who haven't spent the last 10 years in power.
    Erm, why exactly would the Tories be tougher on Immigration? :confused: The Tory party is the friend of big business(men), people who make money from paying an immigrant a pittance over a British worker.

    Yeah they may talk tough due to trying to win over the lower middle classes but they have absolutely no incentive to change anything. Remember it was Thatcher who brought this ideology to the Conservatives and Labour's view on immigration was stolen from pro-Free Capitalist Thatcherism to make themselves electable in 1997. The Tories aren't any different, they originated the idea!
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by orangeboy)
    Go read about the 2001 and 2005 general election - the Tories produced tough immigration policies.

    They are more likely than labour anyday to put real controls on immigration. For that reason, and many others, I'm voting Conservative.
    Politicians and their promises. Do you believe everything they say, especially when they are proven to have their own interests at heart?

    The 2005 Tory manifesto promised a points based system, "similar to the one used in Australia". Obviously it did not suit them to point out that Australia is an independent country which does not have its immigration policy run by the EU. :rolleyes:

    The Tories will not be putting any real controls on immigration. They're quacks.
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by orangeboy)
    They specified it would control non-E.U immigration.

    A dam better start than what Labour have done - unlimited immigration.
    What is non-EU immigration? Citizens of all former colonies of EU member states are eligible to live in those member states where they are entitled to citizenship, which in turn gives them citizenship of the EU. Once they have that, they are entitled to live anywhere in the EU.

    And even people from outside those areas just have to get into the country and claim their human rights would be affected if sent back to their own countries. They're almost never sent back.

    David Cameron is in favour of mass immigration. It keeps wages down. Projected population increases for this country are staggering, and there seems to be hardly any debate about it, except of course in election campaigns when there are gullible voters to be had.

    Again, politicians and their promises. Do you believe everything they say, especially when they are proven to have their own interests at heart?

    Another one of the Tory promises (in the 2005 manifesto) was that they'd restore our opt-out from the Social Chapter. They did not say what they would do when the other member states refuse to let them do that. And they would need the agreement of the other member states. Don't be under any illusion about that.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    I've read a few posts claiming that leftist voters should defect to the lib dems. Surely the Green Party is the more logical choice (seeing as there aren't any mainstream communist or socialist parties in the uk). The greens have traditionnal socialist views on the economy and society as well as being (relatively speaking for a political party) consistent. All mainstream parties have just hopped on to the "lets go green" to grab some votes whereas the greens have supported such policies when they weren't in the publics favour.

    Furthermore there seems to be a lot of support from rightwingers limiting immigration. Surely the free movement of labour is just as essential to free trade as is limited state intervention.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by orangeboy)
    Go read about the 2001 and 2005 general election - the Tories produced tough immigration policies.

    They are more likely than labour anyday to put real controls on immigration. For that reason, and many others, I'm voting Conservative.
    A tough manifesto pledge is very different from actually getting anything done! :rolleyes:

    Why are the Tories more likely than Labour to put controls on Immigration? Because they say so? The wealthy people that fund the Tories are the very people who make money from an immigrant based economy!

    They just appeal to saps by telling them they'll be tough, enact a few programmes that appear tough like some loophole filled variation on a points system like Labour have, and then laugh all the way to the bank while more immigrants flood in. It happened with Thatcher and it'll happen with Cameron.
    • PS Helper
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    PS Helper
    Conservatives. Sure, they're far from ideal, but who else are you going to vote for? Labour - too left wing and generally utterly useless for my liking; Lib Dems - too pro EU for me, and I disagree with other policies too; Greens - too, well, green obsessed, and also too left wing; BNP - too racist/extreme; other parties - too small and often too off the wall to get in. The only other viable alternative for me would be UKIP, to register my dislike of the EU.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    Well to be totally frank it doesn't make an ounce of difference because I live in a Labour safe seat anyway so we will have a Labour MP and the Tories will be in Government:o: .

    Who will I vote for? Our Labour MP is a very good local MP, does a lot for the constituency and I've met seen him a couple of times, so I may vote Labour for that but the thought of actually voting for the Labour Party as a whole puts me off (and I was always a Labour supporter growing up). The only other alternative for me is an anti-EU party. I voted BNP in the Euros but I'm not sure yet I would vote for them in a General Election even if they did have no chance. I would have to look at their manifesto.

    So all in all I don't really know:confused:
    Offline

    12
    (Original post by simon mulligan)
    The only other alternative for me is an anti-EU party. I voted BNP in the Euros but I'm not sure yet I would vote for them in a General Election even if they did have no chance. I would have to look at their manifesto.
    UKIP are a far more respectable and popular anti EU party.

    Then again if you're a labour boy maybe you prefer the BNP's leftie economics compared to UKIP's rightie economics.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by CandyFlipper)
    UKIP are a far more respectable and popular anti EU party.

    Then again if you're a labour boy maybe you prefer the BNP's leftie economics compared to UKIP's rightie economics.
    Yes. That's the reason I did not vote UKIP who I considered because they have the more 'respectable' image advocated from mainstream media although their right-wing economics does put me off I have to admit. Things like privatisation of the NHS etc. They seem to be like a 'deflected Tories' group especially with Nigel Farage and his overgrown public schoolboy image.
    Although it's probably fair to say some of the BNP voters would probably be more at home with UKIP's immigration/EU policies I prefer the BNP's economic policies. I know they have an image problem and still some suspicion over what their 'real aims and beliefs' are which is why I would hesitate to vote in a GE for them although how much this image is just media-driven I'm not sure.
    Offline

    12
    (Original post by simon mulligan)
    I know they have an image problem and still some suspicion over what their 'real aims and beliefs' are which is why I would hesitate to vote in a GE for them although how much this image is just media-driven I'm not sure.
    You do know the BNP was founded by a neo-Nazi right?
 
 
 
Poll
Do you agree with the PM's proposal to cut tuition fees for some courses?
Useful resources

Groups associated with this forum:

View associated groups

The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

Write a reply...
Reply
Hide
Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.