(Original post by DR_X)
Ok, I just remembered, something my ethics teacher said about women and society. So don't stone me
if you disagree and personally I don't agree.
here it goes.
We were discussing about women before and after the sex equality bill(not sure what is called
). Obviously we were all defending the passing of the bill as a good thing, but my teacher likes to play the devil's advocate, so he says the bill has done worse to women in general than it helped. He said, before the bill was passed, women wasn't expected to work whereas now they do whether they like it or not( I am sure they do
), his main point was, by working women has lost that precious time spent raising her children, which is very important, as schools are good but children tend to learn more from their parents as they are seen as role models, modern society expect women to work(for an average family
). The importance of raising a children well is all to well known, not only could the women raise children but also look after the household and socialise among themselves, do charitable work together. So don't have to stay in the house the whole day but able to spent quality time with the kids(I am sure you all do anyway
), the important decisions can be trusted with the husband(Not sure
), as you trust him that is why you married him.
Obviously, my teacher only took this argument so we could argue so don't stone him either
. Just wondering if any one you are sympothetic to this argument, especially women
This argument also missed the importance of equality, which is very important......
(might add a poll to this)
thank you for being really sensitive in what could have been a really awkward debate. i really appreciate this.
i would hazard that we don't fully have equality as yet. we have come a long way. a huge way in fact, but we're not there yet.
if we are talking about life before the act and after the act alone
, then i would say alot has changed, and i'm not sure it hinges just on this act.
i would question what your tutor has presented: why does the position of caring and childrearing fall on women? is this biologically determined or a social construct of gender? if there is no proof either way, how can we say which is better? and if the caring role does turn out to be a social construct, then why are more men not staying home to child-rear and complete domestic work? and does this say something about people are or are not valued in society?
further, have women entered the workplace specifically due to the equality legislation, or could there be other factors, such as in real terms wages have been decreasing, and people have actually been getting poorer, so more families are having to bring in two wages in order to keep the household going?.. also if in the 1970s when this law was passed, women entered the workplace in droves, it says something about their desire to have something other than a domestic role.
imo, one measure of equality will be when the "caring" and domestic work actually reaches the 50/50 level, where there are as many men staying in to tend to children, elderly, disabled and partake in household chores as there are women. a second measure will be when the gendered pay-gap disappears, particularly for those industries which are thought of as typically feminine (and so have lesser pay).
then we can actually start realistically talking about there being financial and work-based equality.
for me personally, i am glad of the laws ensuring i can work on somewhat equal terms to men. there should be more done, but that requires radical societal change, rather than legislation.
(radical feminist, but also a big supporter of people holding a domestic role if they so choose)