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    count on average about 50-60 hours a week on average in first year, increasing to 80+ hours a week by your third year. i lived with an engineer, i reckon he did about 30-40 hours a week in his third year, of which the majority was taught. about 10% of the architecture course is 'taught', the remainder you learn yourself.
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    Mr Hartley is correct about the hours. The only thing I can add is that i've found its not constantly 50-60 hours a week. I tend to begin a project quite relaxed in the first week (depends how long it is of course) researching and developing concepts or whatever you want to call them. Then it progressively ramps up week on week until you hit fever pitch for interim crits and then you relax for a day or two after that, and then it ramps up even more towards the final review. In first year I still worked 80+ hours a week towards the end of projects, as I'm sure many other guys here did too.

    I'll try and answer the rest of your questions the best I can...

    (Original post by konthedon)
    If i complete part 1 what careers could i go into? part 2? fully qualified? i mean if i really dont want to become an architect what other jobs could i easily get with this degree in architecture? My maths teacher gave an example and said if me (with archi degree) and him were applying for a job in a bank i would get the job... could this be possible?
    An architectural education provides you with extremely solid design training and I suppose almost any design field is open to you if you choose to specialise or go onto further training in another field. I have a friend who is stopping architecture to do a law conversion/ masters now - so there are options.

    After part 2 you are pretty much an architect and will be capable of doing most things a fully qualified architect can with regards to design and work. So if you did decide to do a masters, then you'd be silly not to get a career in architecture.

    I'm not sure about the bank scenario, except I doubt anybody is getting jobs in banks at the moment. Though I do know that's not what you were getting at!

    (Original post by konthedon)
    Would appreciate any feedback because ive done my personal statement for architecture and im about to start an internship, so if i do change my mind i need to redo my personal state asap.
    What is the internship you're about to start? Architecture related? If so, then i'd use the opportunity to see if you like the kind of thing that goes on in an architecture office (mostly a lot of pulling lines around on a computer screen) and for an intern (or even an assistant)... making tea...
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    I'm in a good mood today, so I'm going to be pretty positive in my reply.

    Architecture hours at uni are long. Not because there's a need to, but because there's a culture of "oh, I only got 1 hours sleep in a week" and one-upmanship on that front. Terrible. There's no need to get sucked into this, and I was able to hold down a full-time job and come out the other side of my part 1 with high grades. Spent time working, relaxing, studying and exercising. Still had time to eat and sleep. Don't believe the hype.

    Working hours in practice will vary. In every firm you will be expected to work more than you are paid - maybe until 7 every night. However, there is still a culture of one-upmanship on how late people work for no money. Stupid. I make sure I'm out of the door by 6 every day, and it's had no effect on my employment.

    Money is fairly low if you go the conventional route ie part 1 into employment, back to part 2, back to employment. If you start training as a cad technician and study part-time, you can earn what a part 3 is earning shortly after you've got your part 1. You'll also have far more experience than a standard uni-leaver and will get the responsibility/pay/respect that you have earned.

    Architecture is a hugely rewarding career. You will be working towards a worthwhile cause, rather than just pushing numbers and bits of paper around. There's something massively rewarding about seeing something you've drawn on paper getting built. The money will come eventually. You will not be living on the edge of poverty!

    There are plenty of exit routes if you find architecture is not your bag. Don't worry about that.

    My suggestion would be to get on board with this internship and see how many hours you can get in. Make yourself useful - learn cad and start drawing for them. Learn how it all works, talk to people and earn money as you draw. Try and work for over a year before starting at uni. You'll see where you want to be going after this. Maybe you'd prefer engineering, graphic design, visualisation, project management. These are professions I hadn't a clue about until I spent time in a practice.


    Whatever you do - don't wear a tie! It's a creative industry. Most people will be wearing jeans and shirts. Dress smart for your first day. But no tie!!!
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    (Original post by Monte)
    Whatever you do - don't wear a tie! It's a creative industry. Most people will be wearing jeans and shirts. Dress smart for your first day. But no tie!!!
    Man! I wore shirt, tie, the smart trousers and the black shoes every day at work - didn't do me any harm. I think i'm still as creative as before... :P
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    (Original post by Quiller)
    Man! I wore shirt, tie, the smart trousers and the black shoes every day at work - didn't do me any harm. I think i'm still as creative as before... :P
    I can remember last year (year 10) I organized myself a placement at a pretty good architects firm and turned up in a suit and tie only to find eveyrone was wearing jeans. I felt like a bit of an eejit.

    But the whole experience was brilliant, I was literally chukced in with a project that I had to help someone who had just completed their part 1. I basically had to help with the right to light scheme of a new hotel in brighton and then continue to develop an edited 3d model and AutoCAD floorplan. Oh and i also had to create a model of the surrounding area from pictures. That was awesome. What I will say is that from that very very brief week snapshot ( i did another week at a 3 person firm... that was boring as hell) is that it is expected to turn out a plan/ model at a specific time and also of thought about exactly what problems could arise and also a plan to counteract them.

    Im looking forward to a career in architecture and hope that I will be able to study in Bath uni... gonna have to work to get the 3 A's entry in college though :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by daftndirekt)
    I can remember last year (year 10) I organized myself a placement at a pretty good architects firm and turned up in a suit and tie only to find eveyrone was wearing jeans. I felt like a bit of an eejit.
    Ah well! I was in the same boat on my first day at work way back when and felt overdressed, all I did was take off my suit jacket.

    Part of me thinks we're a creative industry and should be a little more relaxed about dress but then I think we're in a role of professional responsibility, meeting various clients and coordinating consultants, so comb your hair and put some decent trousers on for **** sake.

    Sounds like you got some really good experience at the first place. Think thats a pretty good taster of what you can expect to be doing when you're working in your year out.

    Baths an excellent school, best of luck!!
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    (Original post by Quiller)
    Ah well! I was in the same boat on my first day at work way back when and felt overdressed, all I did was take off my suit jacket.

    Part of me thinks we're a creative industry and should be a little more relaxed about dress but then I think we're in a role of professional responsibility, meeting various clients and coordinating consultants, so comb your hair and put some decent trousers on for **** sake.

    Sounds like you got some really good experience at the first place. Think thats a pretty good taster of what you can expect to be doing when you're working in your year out.

    Baths an excellent school, best of luck!!
    This is my argument to my mum who is trying to discourage me getting tattoos on my forearms/wrists. Apparently it will look more professional if its somewhere i can hide it.:p:

    It doesnt matter though, in too scared to ever get them done.
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    (Original post by Untitled258)
    This is my argument to my mum who is trying to discourage me getting tattoos on my forearms/wrists. Apparently it will look more professional if its somewhere i can hide it.
    Forearms should be alright I would have thought. - long sleeves. Wrists I dunno, totally depends on what the tattoo is of I guess. eg. naked woman holding a gun might be a little bit weird (not that you'll get this!!) but something like a shape or a symbol (swastikas aside) wouldn't be a problem in my opinion.

    Could always go for the chest too...

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    (Original post by Quiller)
    Forearms should be alright I would have thought. - long sleeves. Wrists I dunno, totally depends on what the tattoo is of I guess. eg. naked woman holding a gun might be a little bit weird (not that you'll get this!!) but something like a shape or a symbol (swastikas aside) wouldn't be a problem in my opinion.

    Could always go for the chest too...

    http://www.markeverclear.com/alan/jedhouse1tv.jpg
    How did you guess :eek3:

    I wouldnt get a chest tat, my chest weight fluctuates to much and it would stretch it, ands shrink, and desitort :yes:
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    (Original post by Untitled258)
    I wouldnt get a chest tat, my chest weight fluctuates to much and it would stretch it, ands shrink, and desitort :yes:
    It's all part of the art... It represents how nothing is permanent and we're in a constant state of flux.

    :pierre:
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    (Original post by WiBurn)
    It's all part of the art... It represents how nothing is permanent and we're in a constant state of flux.
    Deep.
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    (Original post by daftndirekt)
    I can remember last year (year 10) I organized myself a placement at a pretty good architects firm and turned up in a suit and tie only to find eveyrone was wearing jeans. I felt like a bit of an eejit.
    :eek3: How the hell did you manage to get work experience at an architecture firm in year 10?! I've just completed an art and design foundation course, about to start my degree and still can't find a thing
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    (Original post by daftndirekt)
    I can remember last year (year 10) I organized myself a placement at a pretty good architects firm and turned up in a suit and tie only to find eveyrone was wearing jeans. I felt like a bit of an eejit
    I did exactly the same haha - Smart trousers and a nice shirt does the trick

    Speaking of work experience, do any of the larger firms in London take on people for a week or so? I went on a great work placement back in Y10 and I was very much involved (they were a medium sized practice in Sheffield) but was wondering if I should get some more under my belt to boost uni chances and also just to get a better grasp of the larger firms and how they work.
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    (Original post by pippa90)
    :eek3: How the hell did you manage to get work experience at an architecture firm in year 10?! I've just completed an art and design foundation course, about to start my degree and still can't find a thing
    I have an awesome cv and i also sent out like 10 letters within like a 30 mile radius.
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    (Original post by pippa90)
    :eek3: How the hell did you manage to get work experience at an architecture firm in year 10?! I've just completed an art and design foundation course, about to start my degree and still can't find a thing
    I didn't have a CV and sent one email to a partner in a local firm, got a month of paid work experience. :p:
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    (Original post by daftndirekt)
    I have an awesome cv and i also sent out like 10 letters within like a 30 mile radius.
    A year ago I sent about 10 emails, and about a month ago I emailed 30 companies with my cv, which isn't **** btw :p: Do you think that letters would be better then?

    (Original post by GormlessWonder)
    I didn't have a CV and sent one email to a partner in a local firm, got a month of paid work experience. :p:
    You're joking right? :bawling:
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    (Original post by pippa90)
    You're joking right? :bawling:
    I must have got lucky, but also this firm had a history of links with local education and this was pre-recession.
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    (Original post by GormlessWonder)
    I must have got lucky, but also this firm had a history of links with local education and this was pre-recession.
    Ah right, what was this firm? Anywhere near London?
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    (Original post by pippa90)
    Ah right, what was this firm? Anywhere near London?
    No, 'Gelder and Kitchen' in Hull. I suppose being a smaller firm up North would have made it easier as well.

    Anyway, keep trying to get work experience in the holidays, I'll still be trying to at uni probs.
 
 
 
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