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    Personally in the end I would like to myself as a Judge. you?[/QUOT


    Emm well as i said i waould like to go into sports law, perhaps generallyu a sports lawyer, as the field of sport law isnt huge therefore you tend to be generally carrying out tasks for most of the field!
    But im quite interested in criminal law i think it would be exciting being highly ranked in the police but i dont knwo to be honest i just think a law degree opens so many doors!!
    What unis are you applying for?
    Yeah a law degree really is helpful in the police, my mother's cousin who is about 30 flew through the ranks and he did a law degree literally it seemed like he had a new job every year and now he is on one hefty wage.
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    Oxford, LSE, UCL, Kings and Newcastle probably ( i would actually love to go to newcastle tbh)
    Crikey! Straight A*s at GCSE an As at A-Level then?
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    Crikey! Straight A*s at GCSE an As at A-Level then?
    I got 9A*'s and 2 A's and hoping for A*A*A at a-level , but to be honest I would not mind if all 4 rejected me but only newcastle offered me a place, I think I did quite badly in my AS levels though so I see alot of retakes and I know most of them aren't going to like it.
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    I got 9A*'s and 2 A's and hoping for A*A*A at a-level , but to be honest I would not mind if all 4 rejected me but only newcastle offered me a place, I think I did quite badly in my AS levels though so I see alot of retakes and I know most of them aren't going to like it.

    If i was in your boots i would personally choose Newcastle i live there this place is amazing!! you may think im beng biased but really newcastle is a great place to live, if i could get the grades i would choose there without a doubt, over oxford the lot!!
    But obviously you have a great chance of being a hugely successful lawyer with them grades, so a top university would be good!

    Fancy lennding me an A level?? haha
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    If i was in your boots i would personally choose Newcastle i live there this place is amazing!! you may think im beng biased but really newcastle is a great place to live, if i could get the grades i would choose there without a doubt, over oxford the lot!!
    But obviously you have a great chance of being a hugely successful lawyer with them grades, so a top university would be good!

    Fancy lennding me an A level?? haha
    I think there's a quote mixup. I didn't say that.
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    I think there's a quote mixup. I didn't say that.

    Yh sorry!! lol
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    (Original post by Greg1004)
    Oxford, LSE, UCL, Kings and Newcastle probably ( i would actually love to go to newcastle tbh)

    If i was in your boots i would personally choose Newcastle i live there this place is amazing!! you may think im beng biased but really newcastle is a great place to live, if i could get the grades i would choose there without a doubt, over oxford the lot!!
    But obviously you have a great chance of being a hugely successful lawyer with them grades, so a top university would be good!

    Fancy lennding me an A level?? haha
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    Nottingham Trent asks for 280 UCAS points and is one of the "better thought of" ex-polys.

    EDIT: Also, if you could push yourself Exeter's cornwall campus is easier to get into... and you are associated with the University of Exeter (which is VERY good for jobs) - http://www.exeter.ac.uk/undergraduat...cornlaw/entry/

    Oh and I got accepted by Hull with only BBB so you could try there too.
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    Perhaps take an A level and do it in one year instead of two? That will then give you equivilent to three A levels which most other applicants will have, and allow you to apply to better universities. I think a lot of Law firms require a minimum of BBB at A level (at least that's what a lot of people on here say). Law is very competitive and so you want to be going to the best university which you can in order to maximise your chances of making it as a lawyer. But, even if you don't make it as a lawyer, Law is a very well respected degree which will give you lots of options.
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    Perhaps take an A level and do it in one year instead of two? That will then give you equivilent to three A levels which most other applicants will have, and allow you to apply to better universities. I think a lot of Law firms require a minimum of BBB at A level (at least that's what a lot of people on here say). Law is very competitive and so you want to be going to the best university which you can in order to maximise your chances of making it as a lawyer. But, even if you don't make it as a lawyer, Law is a very well respected degree which will give you lots of options.
    Im not sure how familiar you are with law but if i was to do a degree at say sunderland uni (random but yh) and got a 2:1 or a 2nd. Would i have a gd chanc of becoming a lawyer?
    Also everything the same if i was to go to a lower ranked uni like say edgehill or a poly got say a second, could i then apply for a LLM or LPC at a different uni, would this make the law firms more approachable, for example doing the LPC or LLM at like a top 30 uni?

    No sure how much you know but its worth asking!
    Thanks
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    (Original post by Greg1004)
    Im not sure how familiar you are with law but if i was to do a degree at say sunderland uni (random but yh) and got a 2:1 or a 2nd. Would i have a gd chanc of becoming a lawyer?
    Also everything the same if i was to go to a lower ranked uni like say edgehill or a poly got say a second, could i then apply for a LLM or LPC at a different uni, would this make the law firms more approachable, for example doing the LPC or LLM at like a top 30 uni?

    No sure how much you know but its worth asking!
    Thanks
    I don't think getting a 2:1 or a 2:2 at Sunderland uni would give you a very good chance of making it as a lawyer. Due to the uni, you would have to get a first to even have a chance. Were you to get a second you probably wouldn't be able to do a LLM at a top uni.
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    (Original post by simon12345)
    I don't think getting a 2:1 or a 2:2 at Sunderland uni would give you a very good chance of making it as a lawyer. Due to the uni, you would have to get a first to even have a chance. Were you to get a second you probably wouldn't be able to do a LLM at a top uni.
    ok i see, so whats the lowest in the league table to go to in order to stand a chance? :/
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    (Original post by Greg1004)
    ok i see, so whats the lowest in the league table to go to in order to stand a chance? :/
    It doesn't work like that. With a 2.1 from Sunderland you still stand a very good chance of becoming a lawyer; granted, it will be more difficult for you to get training contracts at the top firms because, apart from anything else, you don't meet the usual minimum 300 UCAS point requirement. You've already said, however, that you want to go into sport related law or criminal law and with a good degree from an albeit not-so-great university you definitely have a shot at this. There is a lot more to an application than the name of your university.
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    (Original post by Mr_Deeds)
    It doesn't work like that. With a 2.1 from Sunderland you still stand a very good chance of becoming a lawyer; granted, it will be more difficult for you to get training contracts at the top firms because, apart from anything else, you don't meet the usual minimum 300 UCAS point requirement. You've already said, however, that you want to go into sport related law or criminal law and with a good degree from an albeit not-so-great university you definitely have a shot at this. There is a lot more to an application than the name of your university.

    I've always said to myself that the degree calssification and other factors are the most important, but of lately im getting really worried about choosing a lower ranked uni and not standing a decent chance at becoming a lawyer. However as you know im only really interested as of yet in sports law and criminal law, maybe property :/

    Any advice on Unis that have a averagely good repuatation!!
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    (Original post by Greg1004)
    I've always said to myself that the degree calssification and other factors are the most important, but of lately im getting really worried about choosing a lower ranked uni and not standing a decent chance at becoming a lawyer. However as you know im only really interested as of yet in sports law and criminal law, maybe property :/

    Any advice on Unis that have a averagely good repuatation!!
    The top firms and chambers generally target the "red brick" and Russell Group universities more than anywhere else. If you look on their websites most of the lawyers have degrees from Oxbridge, the London universities and then places like Durham, Nottingham, Bristol, Warwick and Manchester. Realistically, you'll be punching above your weight by applying to these places simply because you've made a bad decision in choosing a BTEC.

    Having said that, there are still trainees, associates and even partners at these firms from less prestigious and well-known universities like Greenwich and Sunderland, etc. Employers look beyond your A-Level results and at your potential to succeed as a lawyer - by getting a 2.1 you'll demonstrate this excellently. There are lots of ways that you can compensate for a less than average university; get good work experience behind you and develop a strong record of extracurricular activities and I really think you'll be fine. I can't really answer your second question though - it's been quite a while since I was applying to Law school but somebody else has mentioned that you might be able to get into Aberystwyth with 280 UCAS point, if that's true then I'd definitely consider applying there.
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    (Original post by Mr_Deeds)
    The top firms and chambers generally target the "red brick" and Russell Group universities more than anywhere else. If you look on their websites most of the lawyers have degrees from Oxbridge, the London universities and then places like Durham, Nottingham, Bristol, Warwick and Manchester. Realistically, you'll be punching above your weight by applying to these places simply because you've made a bad decision in choosing a BTEC.

    Having said that, there are still trainees, associates and even partners at these firms from less prestigious and well-known universities like Greenwich and Sunderland, etc. Employers look beyond your A-Level results and at your potential to succeed as a lawyer - by getting a 2.1 you'll demonstrate this excellently. There are lots of ways that you can compensate for a less than average university; get good work experience behind you and develop a strong record of extracurricular activities and I really think you'll be fine. I can't really answer your second question though - it's been quite a while since I was applying to Law school but somebody else has mentioned that you might be able to get into Aberystwyth with 280 UCAS point, if that's true then I'd definitely consider applying there.

    Yh i realised i couldnt get into a top law firm and the magic circle etc, but to be honest with you they dont really interest me that much and these firms probably dont do much legal work on sport, but i could be wrong!
    Ill most probably target small firms, within sports law popular areas, which is London and Manchester, so perhaps manchester Firms is best for me.
    Alright i havnt looked at that particular Uni at the moment but i think sometime within the next week i shall go through ucas and look at entry requirements alongside the law league table (although its not to important as you say) but it will give me an idea of the more respected universities!
    Any more advice you could give me? LOL
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    I'm not sure that there's much else that I can say mate. Whilst it might be difficult for you to get placements at the leading firms specialising in sports law (Irwin Mitchell, Hammonds, Harbottle & Lewis, etc.) I wouldn't give up just yet simply because you haven't got into an amazing university. If you get a good degree classification and you do meet the entry requirements then a lot of it will come down to you - how much you've thrown yourself into university and the skills and qualities which you have. Otherwise there are great "in-house" opportunities with organisations like Sports Resolutions and WADA and maybe even EA, etc. Getting into these places is generally less competitive and these organisations are more likely to read your application before dismissing you on the basis of the name of your university.

    When you do come to apply to university you should probably be pitching yourself in the Nottingham Trent/ Leeds Met/ De Montfort and Gloucestershire region but there are plenty of Law graduates from these institutions who have gone on to achieve very fulfilling legal careers and some in the same areas of law which interest you. If you really want it then give it 100% and you'll get it, make a really strong UCAS application, write a good personal statement and when you do get to university make sure that you work as hard as you can.
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    (Original post by Mr_Deeds)
    I'm not sure that there's much else that I can say mate. Whilst it might be difficult for you to get placements at the leading firms specialising in sports law (Irwin Mitchell, Hammonds, Harbottle & Lewis, etc.) I wouldn't give up just yet simply because you haven't got into an amazing university. If you get a good degree classification and you do meet the entry requirements then a lot of it will come down to you - how much you've thrown yourself into university and the skills and qualities which you have. Otherwise there are great "in-house" opportunities with organisations like Sports Resolutions and WADA and maybe even EA, etc. Getting into these places is generally less competitive and these organisations are more likely to read your application before dismissing you on the basis of the name of your university.

    When you do come to apply to university you should probably be pitching yourself in the Nottingham Trent/ Leeds Met/ De Montfort and Gloucestershire region but there are plenty of Law graduates from these institutions who have gone on to achieve very fulfilling legal careers and some in the same areas of law which interest you. If you really want it then give it 100% and you'll get it, make a really strong UCAS application, write a good personal statement and when you do get to university make sure that you work as hard as you can.
    I cant believe that, all afternoon i've been on ucas searching unis where they are, entry requirements, just popped on here and you come up with 2 of the unis i kind of shortlisted!
    Leeds met and Nottingham trent?
    Leeds met is like 4th from bottom on the table for law, that cant be a good start, also its a poly, does this not really matter?
    Nottingham Trent is a poly to right? Basicaly are these respectful enough?

    Sorry for the barage of questions, im just reall started getting panic'y haha
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    I cant believe that, all afternoon i've been on ucas searching unis where they are, entry requirements, just popped on here and you come up with 2 of the unis i kind of shortlisted!
    Leeds met and Nottingham trent?
    Leeds met is like 4th from bottom on the table for law, that cant be a good start, also its a poly, does this not really matter?
    Nottingham Trent is a poly to right? Basicaly are these respectful enough?

    Sorry for the barage of questions, im just reall started getting panic'y haha
    Nottingham Trent, Leeds Met and De Montfort are all polytechnics. Nottingham Trent arguably has the better reputation of them all and I'd say that Leeds Met probably isn't too far behind. Don't rely too much on the league tables though; they're really arbitary - check out the Guardian's for example and you'll see the difference. Like I've said, don't stress about where you end up; you can only make the best of a not-so-good situation and if you work hard and do well they'll give you a good enough chance at getting to where you want to be.
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    I can assure you that Nottingham Trent University Law School is second to none. I go there myself, and love the course! I have had all the support I need and really enjoyed first year. Nottingham is a great place. Come to Notts
 
 
 
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