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    (Original post by Lizia)
    Complete ********. Some girls are content to be flat chested, others aren't. Of course if you are content having small breasts then nasty comments won't get to you. But if you hate the way you look because of those small boobs, why does it suddenly become a mental issue? Plenty of people choose to wear contact lenses because they despise wearing glasses and have been bullied for it. Should we suggest that they should continue wearing their glasses but need therapy because, "other people who get comments for wearing glasses aren't as depressed as you are"?

    It's very easy for you to judge from your own position, but all you're doing is proving that you understand nothing about the situation at hand. These girls getting boob jobs despise their breasts and want to change them. They don't have any other issues in their life making them depressed, it is solely the size of their breasts (and bullying or teasing associated with it). By having a boob job, this problem is gone and so is the bullying. Why waste money counselling them for the rest of their lives and maybe not helping them at all, when giving them a boob job will make them happy? And before you say, "they have deep issues and will still be miserable"- that's rubbish. Do you not think they're extensively monitored beforehand to make sure that doesn't happen? This isn't private cosmetic surgery where money means surgeons skimp on the psych evaluations, it's the NHS and they don't just thrown money around, whatever you might mistakenly believe.

    I said "overweight", not "obese". I'm not unhealthy at all, I'm just discontent with the way I look. My being overweight has no effect on my health at all, just like someone's boobs have no effect on theirs. The scenarios are exactly the same. I and this imaginary person both dislike something about our bodies enough to despise them. And that doesn't mean we necessarily have deep seated issues that need counselling.

    Way to miss the point. I never said that the people who despised their bodies had bodies that were mutilated or disgusting. But the point is that your sister's problems are enough to make her miserable and despise herself. If a nose job would change that, why shouldn't she get one free on the NHS? If she has no other things which make her depressed or hate herself, why should she be put through therapy that costs a lot and probably won't make her feel better?
    If your mental health is dependant on how you look, it's a symptom of a shallow society. The NHS shouldn't encourage that, it's all I'm saying.

    Also - being overweight is still bad for you health, even if your not obese. That's why there's a distinction between "ideal weight and the other categories.

    And I think that you missed the point with my last paragraph. My sister's physical appearance is pretty much the same as mine. There's nothing much wrong with either of us, and yet she hates part of herself with a passion. Surely this is proof that her problems are caused by a lack of resiliance to what people say and think, or perhaps the fact she's constantly comparing herself to other people. This can't be corrected with a nose job.

    Also - it's very rude to dismiss a person's point as being "complete [obscenity], or quote someone, and then replace what they said with "blah blah blah". I was under the impression that we were having a civilised debate, until I read that. If you can't formulate a reply without getting personal, please don't bother quoting me with a reply, because I can't be bothered to spend my afternoon arguing with a belligerent stranger.
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    You should be able to opt out of the NHS and get private healthcare if you want. I am fed up of paying for some flat chested ****s fake rack, and some jobless drug addict's methadone when my mother, who is unable to walk properly, has to pay thousands of pounds to see someone privately because the NHS wont see her.

    If i ever meet one of these fake women who have blagged themselves silicone on the NHS in place of someone who actually needs surgery, i am going to make them feel so depressed about themselves that a no pair of fake bitty will ever cheer them up.
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    (Original post by farhan)
    That is a load of rubbish and should never be allowed to happen!

    Okay, I know I've got perfect boobs but that does not cloud my judgement.
    You have perfect hair too.
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    (Original post by elixira)
    I don't wanna judge her or the situation, but I honestly don't believe having small boobs can cause depression they should have treated it with decent therapy or even meds.

    Just to clarify, it was on the NHS, right?
    That is complete ********.. have you not heard of body dysmorphia? some of the causes for that is because of small boobs. It can cause depression so that's rather ignorant for you to say.

    I've been diagnosed with BDD.. albeit not for small boobs as mine are far from small but for other things and you do not understand how crippling it can be to a person.
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    Anyone with depression that wants surgery to cure it above someone who actually needs surgery to function normally should be denied it on principle alone. How dare you consider your vanity more important than someones health!
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    I will probably get slated for this but I believe that yes, people may get bullied because of the size of their tits and they may be traumatised, but that is just a product of a weak personality. The said person is unhealthily fixated on the one body part that they feel is inadequate and attribute any failure in life to that one reason. If you're so unhappy, work and pay for it yourself. At least that way, if people don't agree with it, it's still not affecting them.
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    (Original post by Linweth)
    You have perfect hair too.
    Thanks I can't comment on yours!
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    (Original post by Spacecam)
    If the surgery will drastically improve the patient's quality of life, then surgery can be performed. Maybe there was a severe psychological problem the woman had with her small boobs?
    It's bull though cos I couldn't even get braces for free despite it having affected me psychologically for years.
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    (Original post by Lefty_P)
    I will probably get slated for this but I believe that yes, people may get bullied because of the size of their tits and they may be traumatised, but that is just a product of a weak personality. The said person is unhealthily fixated on the one body part that they feel is inadequate and attribute any failure in life to that one reason. If you're so unhappy, work and pay for it yourself. At least that way, if people don't agree with it, it's still not affecting them.
    That's a concise version of what I was trying to say
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    (Original post by bikipip)
    Surgery is definitely not a solution for BDD, as you will only end up finding something else wrong with your body and want more and more surgery. The best thing for BDD is cognitive therapy to try and change your way of thinking.

    As I mentioned in my previous post, now that you have been diagnosed and it is on your medical records, even a private surgeon or cosmetic surgery group will refuse to operate on you for the interest of your mental health.
    Yeah, I didn't say it was a solution :confused: I was just disagreeing with that persons comment on how she finds it hard to believe something like having something wrong with your body could cause depression.

    I do entirely agree with your post though. I've been working on my way of thinking for years now. :yes:
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    It's bull though cos I couldn't even get braces for free despite it having affected me psychologically for years.
    That's different. VERY different. Especially taking into consideration how little the NHS has to do with the majority of Dental Care in the UK
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    (Original post by Spanghew)
    I'm not sure how to respond to your last comment, because it's basically just you making assumptions about my life. What I will say is that my sister is constantly depressed about the shape of her nose, won;t let people take photos of herself frm certain angles, and once got upset because when she broke it, it didnt get damaged enough to warrant reconstruction. She is now saving up to pay for a nosejob, because she feels that her nose ruins her life, and can't stand to have what she considers to be such an ugly feature on her face. Surely she "despises" herself by your criteria?

    She actually has the same shaped nose as me. I used to hate mine, looked into surgery, but then grew up and accepted that I look different from other people. Sometimes people point out that my nose is a weird shape, but I don't care. What is different about me and my sister, other than the fact that she has issues and I don't?
    She's female and you're not. I would argue that having a big or oddly-shaped nose is seen as much less attractive on a female than a male, generally. It's quite a masculine feature.
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    I know somebody who had a boob job to make them bigger because she went to her doctors loadsa times and said it was making her depressed and insecure. My friend's also being considered at the moment for a boob job on the NHS but this is to make them smaller, as it's giving her back problems.
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    (Original post by Belle-x)
    I know somebody who had a boob job to make them bigger because she went to her doctors loadsa times and said it was making her depressed and insecure. My friend's also being considered at the moment for a boob job on the NHS but this is to make them smaller, as it's giving her back problems.
    Well your friend with the back problem should be free on the NHS as its a its a problem impacting her health that I can understand.

    But some of these people are definitely lying about their boobs making them 'depressed' or the 'odd girl out'.. But of course if you do feel like the odd girl out then you must have implants for DD as the majority of girls have a pair of those...
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    (Original post by Linweth)
    That is complete ********.. have you not heard of body dysmorphia? some of the causes for that is because of small boobs. It can cause depression so that's rather ignorant for you to say.
    Having small boobs cannot cause a psychological disorder.

    It's the negative, warped thoughts in a person's brain about their perceived 'faults' that cause it.

    You completely misunderstood my post; maybe you could try being a little less ignorant next time?
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    (Original post by Melting Sugar.)
    Ooh it did sound a little touché - my bad, I didn't mean it in a harsh way :o: I just meant that if you haven't got a flat chest then I guess you can never know whether it can cause depression. I've got pretty small boobs and i'm happy but I can understand how some people might not be, however I wouldn't encourage them to have a boob job like you said it's probably better she gets psycho-therapy to deal with her issues as you don't know where the self-esteem issues will end :dontknow:

    But yes, I don't think they should get it on the NHS.
    Nahh, I get what you're saying I suppose I don't understand, I have friends with small boobs who are always going on about wishing they were bigger, but it'd look stupid because they've got slim bodies - with a boob job they'd just look like a porn star!
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    I am 23 yrs old I have had this problem since I started developing. My breasts are different shaped and one is like a A cup n the other is a D cup it is very embarrassing and depressing. It makes you very self consious and makes you feel like you stick out like a sore thumb in a crowd. My Fiance understands how I feel but he says Im beautiful even with that problem but I just dont think so. I really hate it, it annoys me when people **** other people off saying that its taxpayers money well I have worked ever since I was 14 I would never **** someone down for a problem like that and how can a person thats on such a low income afford £3,000 - £4,000 to be happy and normal like most girls. Probably the ones that **** others off are perfect but they want them bigger. So I would like to say have consideration for people like me.
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    (Original post by kaygra23)
    I am 23 yrs old I have had this problem since I started developing. My breasts are different shaped and one is like a A cup n the other is a D cup it is very embarrassing and depressing. It makes you very self consious and makes you feel like you stick out like a sore thumb in a crowd. My Fiance understands how I feel but he says Im beautiful even with that problem but I just dont think so. I really hate it, it annoys me when people **** other people off saying that its taxpayers money well I have worked ever since I was 14 I would never **** someone down for a problem like that and how can a person thats on such a low income afford £3,000 - £4,000 to be happy and normal like most girls. Probably the ones that **** others off are perfect but they want them bigger. So I would like to say have consideration for people like me.
    That's a very different situation than say, just making them bigger because it's your husband's birthday or because you're depressed about them being small. Obviously your case is understandable, but that's not true when it comes to most boob jobs.
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    more bigger titties the better...all females should get free boob jobs on the NHS...I'm more than happy for my taxes to be spent on this.
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    if i lose a lot of weight and mine shrink, i will look at getting them done on the NHS, small boobs will make me unhappy so why not
 
 
 
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