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    All universities that rank outside of the overall Top 50 in the UK should not exist. Such excessive amounts of money should not be spent on students who fail to get into these highly ranked uni's and become highly-regarded international professionals, but instead they should be trained in colleges/camps to obtain cheap/easy diplomas in building work/hairdressing/gardening/whatever.

    I'm not saying that the diplomas/equilavent are inferior to the degree at all, but would simply cater for different needs.

    What point is there for the gov. to be forking out billions of pounds for students who'll most likely graduate with a worthless degree? What point is there for pushing ~60% of all students to go to uni and then complain about the subsequent lack of graduate jobs available?

    Us clever-clogs should be left for the degrees and the professional roles, fuelling competition and pushing the academic bar of the UK ever higher.

    The top 50, whilst obviously not static, would be measured from an average of hundreds of different league tables over the years/international ratings/professional/academic ratings and it would obviously also cater for specialist universities/uni's with amazing individual courses which could perhaps be all mixed together or something.



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    The ranking system is not the bible for universities, you know.

    Maybe you should go do some bricklaying, Dave?
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    Stupid thread, stupid thought, there wouldnt be a 'top 50' if there wern't more than 50 unis smart ass and the Top 50, changes every year depending on performance.
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    Why would that make a difference?

    Then you'd have people saying 'oh, we only need the top-half of those Unis' and so on and so forth until you just get to Oxbridge. Completely unnecessary.

    At the end of the day it's the decision of the individual person as to what Uni they go to, and potential employers will know how acclaimed degrees are from different Universities.
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    No, because then I couldn't go to the Uni I'm going to be attending this September. I could have gone to one of the top ones, but chose not to.
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    You're not even at university lol. Ass.
    Also, what about uni's that are low in the league tables but have amazing individual schools?
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    Top 50? Why stop there? Make it top 10!
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    *despairs*

    I know everything I'm going to say will be repeated but, apart from the fact that more people than can fit into 50 unis want to get a degree, this is a stupid idea because rankings are just stupid. Firstly, they are not static, they change every year, often by quite a lot, with unis moving as much as 10 places. Secondly, they are often based on dubious criteria. Thirdly, the top 50 differs according not only to subject area but the paper that publishes the table.
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    Perhaps so called "top 50" unis shouldn't exist at all if they can't do a good job of ensuring you have a basic level of common sense.
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    I agree there are far too many university places. It's horrific seeing all these C, D, E and U students go to uni
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    some Unis in the lower half of the table do courses better than some in the top 50...
    The point you're making is really stupid
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    (Original post by ADREAM)
    All universities that rank outside of the overall Top 50 in the UK should not exist. Such excessive amounts of money should not be spent on students who fail to get into these highly ranked uni's and become highly-regarded international professionals, but instead they should be trained in colleges/camps to obtain cheap/easy diplomas in building work/hairdressing/gardening/whatever.

    Us clever-clogs should be left for the degrees and the professional roles, fuelling competition and pushing the academic bar of the UK ever higher.

    Discuss.
    To an extent I agree, I think the fact that over 50% of people are now going to university, it's so easy to get in that it devalues being a student. People are just going for the ride, when in fact, it may not be suitable for them at all. It must be a good thing that university is no longer free, this has to act as a deterrent to those people though!

    Also, how do you judge which are THE "top 50" as all universities specialise in different areas and the rankings are always changing year on year.
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    Agreed.

    Degrees are becoming more and more common. Such dilution causes them to lose their value. University should be reserved for the top achieving students in their relative fields.

    In order for this to work though, both GCSEs and A-Levels should be made harder, thus gain more value themselves, but still allowing a reasonable way to discern between the top students.
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    They shouldn't be recognised as universities, but instead as what they are: polytechnics.
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    Keepin' it real.
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    I sort of agree, but don't know if we should only have 50 universities. Definitely I think too many people are going to university, when they may benefit more from vocational training etc.
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    Well, I'll probably get annihilated but I agree.....is someone with CDD really suited to academic work?
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    Yes because league tablets are such an impartial and reliable way of deciding what courses and universities are best in the country. Just look at the differences between the Times and Guardian league tables for instance, some of the differences are simply bizarre.
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    this is why most people on TSR complain about lack of lay...
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    There are no stupid thoughts. But, if we considered the knock-on effect, we'd narrow it down to 50, then the bar would be set a little higher. We'd narrow it down to 40, then 30, then 10 (a huge reduction cause by another gaff in Labour policy, of course) and then eventually the one.

    We'd end up centralised on one campus. And that seems a bit of a cattle-ranching way of doing education.
 
 
 
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