All uni's that don't rank in the Top 50 should not exist.

Why did you change your post that said you didn't actually believe what you posted in your thread-starting post?

Discuss.

All universities that rank outside of the overall Top 50 in the UK should not exist. Such excessive amounts of money should not be spent on students who fail to get into these highly ranked uni's and become highly-regarded international professionals, but instead they should be trained in colleges/camps to obtain cheap/easy diplomas in building work/hairdressing/gardening/whatever.

I'm not saying that the diplomas/equilavent are inferior to the degree at all, but would simply cater for different needs.

What point is there for the gov. to be forking out billions of pounds for students who'll most likely graduate with a worthless degree? What point is there for pushing ~60% of all students to go to uni and then complain about the subsequent lack of graduate jobs available?

Us clever-clogs should be left for the degrees and the professional roles, fuelling competition and pushing the academic bar of the UK ever higher.

The top 50, whilst obviously not static, would be measured from an average of hundreds of different league tables over the years/international ratings/professional/academic ratings and it would obviously also cater for specialist universities/uni's with amazing individual courses which could perhaps be all mixed together or something.



Discuss.

No, because then I couldn't go to the Uni I'm going to be attending this September. I could have gone to one of the top ones, but chose not to.

The market decides

All universities that rank outside of the overall Top 50 in the UK should not exist. Such excessive amounts of money should not be spent on students who fail to get into these highly ranked uni's and become highly-regarded international professionals, but instead they should be trained in colleges/camps to obtain cheap/easy diplomas in building work/hairdressing/gardening/whatever.

I'm not saying that the diplomas/equilavent are inferior to the degree at all, but would simply cater for different needs.

What point is there for the gov. to be forking out billions of pounds for students who'll most likely graduate with a worthless degree? What point is there for pushing ~60% of all students to go to uni and then complain about the subsequent lack of graduate jobs available?

Us clever-clogs should be left for the degrees and the professional roles, fuelling competition and pushing the academic bar of the UK ever higher.

The top 50, whilst obviously not static, would be measured from an average of hundreds of different league tables over the years/international ratings/professional/academic ratings and it would obviously also cater for specialist universities/uni's with amazing individual courses which could perhaps be all mixed together or something.



Discuss.

Can the people saying that you shouldn't go to university with Cs please get a grip? I got BCC at A Level, went to a university (not an ex-poly) to do an academic subject (We count English Lit/American Studies (American Literature essentially) as academic, right?), got a 2:1 (would have got a First but had a seriously ****** module in the third year where lecturer was ill and no one taught us for six weeks and everyone got lower marks). I'm doing a Masters now, in line for a distinction, and been accepted to do my PhD at University of Birmingham (A Russel group uni shockhorrorgasp) next year. I'm respected by my lecturers, have given a helping hand in one or two undergrad seminars in my research area, working towards publishing a recent essay with the help of a lecturer and want to be a lecturer when I've finished my PhD.

It's not all doom and gloom, people.

All universities that rank outside of the overall Top 50 in the UK should not exist. Such excessive amounts of money should not be spent on students who fail to get into these highly ranked uni's and become highly-regarded international professionals, but instead they should be trained in colleges/camps to obtain cheap/easy diplomas in building work/hairdressing/gardening/whatever.

I'm not saying that the diplomas/equilavent are inferior to the degree at all, but would simply cater for different needs.

What point is there for the gov. to be forking out billions of pounds for students who'll most likely graduate with a worthless degree? What point is there for pushing ~60% of all students to go to uni and then complain about the subsequent lack of graduate jobs available?

Us clever-clogs should be left for the degrees and the professional roles, fuelling competition and pushing the academic bar of the UK ever higher.

The top 50, whilst obviously not static, would be measured from an average of hundreds of different league tables over the years/international ratings/professional/academic ratings and it would obviously also cater for specialist universities/uni's with amazing individual courses which could perhaps be all mixed together or something.



Discuss.

That's not true, only about 34% go to university today and the highest it's ever been is 37%.

Anyway, this thread is stupid because rankings are subjective, different papers have different ranking systems, some unis will slip in and out of the top 50 on a regular basis, and if a uni isn't allowed to exist it has no means of getting into the top 50 in the first place.