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    It would be more practical to raise tuiton fees to £10,000/yr to control admissions
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    (Original post by Sver)
    It would be more practical to raise tuiton fees to £10,000/yr to control admissions
    That'd just mean only the well-off could go. Would certainly "control" admissions, but not in a good way.
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    (Original post by Sver)
    It would be more practical to raise tuiton fees to £10,000/yr to control admissions
    By control you mean ensure that only a certain type of people can afford uni right?
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    (Original post by sleekchic)
    By control you mean ensure that only a certain type of people can afford uni right?
    Exactly.

    At least my proposal would ensure only the well-deserving bright ones among us go to uni, regardless of social background. In fact, without the other 100 crappy uni's or so, money could be diverted to decreasing tuition/uni-living fees and also fuel academic research etc.

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    Who the hell are you to judge the worth of a University? pull your head out of your arse, little boy.
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    No. Instead subjects should be centrally assessed, like in Medicine, so that degrees for subjects like Chemistry and Maths count the same regardless of where you study. Hopefully then it would stop people shelling out ~£20k for a degree that might be ultimately worthless.
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    I think you should rank the course, rather than the university.

    I'm not going to the unversity I'm going to for the ranking (it's not ranked very highly) but because the course is ranked one of the best, and is known within the industy to be so.

    Feel free to make a brick wall, I can almost guarantee you you wouldn't know where to start. To each his own, I don't think too many skills are "more difficult", I just think they're different...
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    (Original post by Sver)
    It would be more practical to raise tuiton fees to £10,000/yr to control admissions
    No, it would be more practical to raise grade requirements. That way the most able, not the richest, could go.
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    (Original post by Entangled)
    There are no stupid thoughts. But, if we considered the knock-on effect, we'd narrow it down to 50, then the bar would be set a little higher. We'd narrow it down to 40, then 30, then 10 (a huge reduction cause by another gaff in Labour policy, of course) and then eventually the one.

    We'd end up centralised on one campus. And that seems a bit of a cattle-ranching way of doing education.
    I see no logical way of this happening
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    (Original post by ADREAM)
    Exactly.

    At least my proposal would ensure only the well-deserving bright ones among us go to uni, regardless of social background. In fact, without the other 100 crappy uni's or so, money could be diverted to decreasing tuition/uni-living fees and also fuel academic research etc.

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    raising to 10k would just mean that poorer people couldn't afford it, it wouldn't affect the intelligence of the people that would be attending.
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    Lets just go the whole way, if you dont make it in Oxbridge, you should be slaughtered!

    You are a waste of our precious oxygen and food
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    (Original post by lewis132)
    raising to 10k would just mean that poorer people couldn't afford it, it wouldn't affect the intelligence of the people that would be attending.
    Yes, but why on earth would you want to discriminate against the intelligent poor?
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    (Original post by ADREAM)
    Us clever-clogs should be left for the degrees and the professional roles, fuelling competition and pushing the academic bar of the UK ever higher.
    No, perhaps we clever-clogs should deflate ourselves a little. :hubba:
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    (Original post by ADREAM)
    All universities that rank outside of the overall Top 50 in the UK should not exist. Such excessive amounts of money should not be spent on students who fail to get into these highly ranked uni's and become highly-regarded international professionals, but instead they should be trained in colleges/camps to obtain cheap/easy diplomas in building work/hairdressing/gardening/whatever.

    What point is there for the gov. to be forking out billions of pounds for students who'll most likely graduate with a worthless degree?

    Us clever-clogs should be left for the degrees and the professional roles, fuelling competition and pushing the academic bar of the UK ever higher.

    The top 50, whilst obviously not static, would be measured from an average of hundreds of different league tables over the years/international ratings/professional/academic ratings and it would obviously also cater for specialist universities/uni's with amazing individual courses which could perhaps be all mixed together or something.



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    What happens if they're outside the general top 50, but say are 5th in a chosen subject?
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    An interesting idea, which should lead onto a wider debate of what we actually want from tertiary education in the UK; especially with increased places for science graduates without funding and constant funding cuts from central government and the imminent increase in tuition fees (or even removal of a cap on tuition fees).

    Personally I think education should be about disseminating knowledge, but at the same time it's about preparing people for work, and we need to realise and accept this. Additionally, we have to realise and accept that some people (in fact, many people) are incapable of attending university and so should go into work placements or apprenticeships; this doesn't mean these people are less worthy or of less value to society, indeed, they play a vital role in society and one which we should not forget.
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    (Original post by .ACS.)
    An interesting idea, which should lead onto a wider debate of what we actually want from tertiary education in the UK; especially with increased places for science graduates without funding and constant funding cuts from central government and the imminent increase in tuition fees (or even removal of a cap on tuition fees).

    Personally I think education should be about disseminating knowledge, but at the same time it's about preparing people for work, and we need to realise and accept this. Additionally, we have to realise and accept that some people (in fact, many people) are incapable of attending university and so should go into work placements or apprenticeships; this doesn't mean these people are less worthy or of less value to society, indeed, they play a vital role in society and one which we should not forget.
    yes I agree with this. Many people will probably think the OP is suggesting that people who cannot get into a top 50 Uni are "inferior". But this is not so; obviously not everyone can be capable of this, and indeed, as you say, they may be better off in apprenticeships. There's no use in EVERYONE going to uni.
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    Oh, you're one of that sort of medical student are you?
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    Why don't you become the next Hitler while you're at it.
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    (Original post by Jonty99)
    yes I agree with this. Many people will probably think the OP is suggesting that people who cannot get into a top 50 Uni are "inferior". But this is not so; obviously not everyone can be capable of this, and indeed, as you say, they may be better off in apprenticeships. There's no use in EVERYONE going to uni.
    Exactly this too. :yy:

    Everyone just has a different place in life. :hat2: I don't understand why the government are pushing for ~60% of the population to go to uni, and then complain about the subsequent lack of graduate jobs.
 
 
 
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