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    As soon as 2013...

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle6727699.ece

    STUDENTS face tuition fees of £7,000 a year by 2013 under plans being developed by both Labour and the Conservatives.

    Both parties are studying an overhaul of the system under which top universities would be allowed to lift fees above the current legal limit of £3,225, while many former polytechnics would offer no-frills degrees for free.

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    Alan Ryan, retiring warden of New College, Oxford, said his college was drawing up bursary plans to ensure no family on an income of less than £35,000 would be worse off if fees were raised from their current level.
    So, they're going to raise the fees, pretty much as another 'rich tax' to take money off those who have parents that worked hard their whole damn lives.

    My dad worked his ass off his whole life and earns a nice salary. Which effectively means I'm going to get punished for it. In some cases, its better off if you're parents don't earn jack all.

    Anyway, anyone else got any opinions?
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    I'm pretty sure the raised fees will affect most levels of students, not just 'rich' ones...

    I'm very relieved they didn't introduce this when I was heading to Uni, because I would have seriously considered not going. I'm already going to be in £21k minimum debt, add £12k to that - not good!
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    I'm in 2 minds. Last year I would have agreed. This year, it's 'jack all'. If I was quoted that price, I wouldn't have applied.
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    Degrees aren't worth the paper they're written on, in most cases.
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    (Original post by Crazy_Moo129)
    I'm in 2 minds. last year i would have agreed. This year, it's 'jack all'.

    I think tuition fees should be the same for everyone, regardless of income. it's the maintainance grants and loans that should vary
    That's what they're proposing...
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    (Original post by blinkbelle)
    I'm pretty sure the raised fees will affect most levels of students, not just 'rich' ones...

    I'm very relieved they didn't introduce this when I was heading to Uni, because I would have seriously considered not going. I'm already going to be in £21k minimum debt, add £12k to that - not good!
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    but anyone on a lower income would get a bursary to subsidise the costs

    if it does happen in 2013, i'll be in my last years of uni, and i know i won't be able to afford £7000 on fees!!!!! So would i have to drop out of my course?
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    I dunno - what the government says and does are two different things - they want to encourage more "young people" to go into Further Education but then make it almost impossible....

    I think there would be major outcry so it wouldn't necessarily happen
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    (Original post by lets_make_some_music)
    but anyone on a lower income would get a bursary to subsidise the costs

    if it does happen in 2013, i'll be in my last years of uni, and i know i won't be able to afford £7000 on fees!!!!! So would i have to drop out of my course?
    Won't you just get a fee loan to cover it?
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    $7000 is ******* cheap. You're all spoiled little socialists. :awesome:
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    (Original post by blinkbelle)
    Won't you just get a fee loan to cover it?
    but i'm going to have enough debt as it is with the amount it is at the moment
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    (Original post by lets_make_some_music)
    but anyone on a lower income would get a bursary to subsidise the costs

    if it does happen in 2013, i'll be in my last years of uni, and i know i won't be able to afford £7000 on fees!!!!! So would i have to drop out of my course?
    Your fees are decided by what the system was when you start.
    So people who started uni before top up fees were introduced didn't have to pay them. And when the fees are increased, anyone already in uni won't have to pay the extra.

    So the fees you will pay will be whatever system is in place in September next year (assuming you don't take a gap year etc).

    (Original post by blinkbelle)
    Won't you just get a fee loan to cover it?
    Pretty sure I've read that the government wouldn't cover any fee increases with the loan. Could be wrong though.
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    (Original post by lets_make_some_music)
    but anyone on a lower income would get a bursary to subsidise the costs

    if it does happen in 2013, i'll be in my last years of uni, and i know i won't be able to afford £7000 on fees!!!!! So would i have to drop out of my course?

    The fees rise would be for courses starting in 2013, not ones that had started before.

    During my first degree the fees went up from £1250 to £3000+. However my course fees stayed at £1250 for the whole of my course as I started when they were £1250.

    It would be extremely unfair to up the fees partway through a course, I don't think they would do it.

    EDIT: Bah beaten by WelshBluebird!
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    (Original post by WelshBluebird)
    Your fees are decided by what the system was when you start.
    So people who started uni before top up fees were introduced didn't have to pay them. And when the fees are increased, anyone already in uni won't have to pay the extra.



    Pretty sure I've read that the government wouldn't cover any fee increases with the loan. Could be wrong though.
    i really hope this is the case
    i still think its discusting though, they were complaining that the top jobs like doctors are taken by the highest earning percentage of the population then they propose stuff like this :mad:
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    (Original post by blinkbelle)
    Won't you just get a fee loan to cover it?
    Yeah, but its still gotta be paid back... =|

    I'm pretty sure the raised fees will affect most levels of students, not just 'rich' ones...
    The government seems to define someone as 'rich' when their parents earn something over £30-£35 k. And, as said in the article, and quoted in my original post, those who aren't classed as 'rich' wont end up being worse off.
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    (Original post by Amanda)
    $7000 is ******* cheap. You're all spoiled little socialists. :awesome:
    Yeah it is, but it is £7000 they are raising it too, not $7000
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    This makes me thankful that i'm going to graduate next year..
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    (Original post by Shayke)
    So if someone currently only has to pay say half, around £1,500*, under the new plans, they'd pay the same, whereas I'd end up paying £7000 rather than £3225.
    Think you're a bit confused.
    No one says half tuition fees. No even if your parent's earn nothing. Every home student pays full fees (ignoring scotland and wales).

    Before top up fees, the amount you paid was based on parental income, but that was abolished when the fees came in. So everyone pays full.
    There are no "tuition fee grants" anymore (again, ignoring Scotland and Wales).
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    If it does get introduced, it would only affect people starting university that year. Top up fees had a major outcry and still got passed. I think they will get increased but whether or not they are doubled by 2013 is another story.
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    (Original post by JammyP)
    Yeah it is, but it is £7000 they are raising it too, not $7000
    Excuse me for not having the pound symbol on my keyboard. :p:

    Either way it's still cheap. Private unis here are like $25,000+ a year.
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    (Original post by lets_make_some_music)
    but i'm going to have enough debt as it is with the amount it is at the moment
    This was the point of my original post.. I don't think it's a good idea.
 
 
 
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