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    Heroin - Velvet Underground
    Song to The Siren - This Mortal Coil
    When I grow Up - Fever Ray
    Heaven or Las Vegas - Cocteau Twins
    Teardrop - Massive Attack
    Just Like Honey - The Jesus and Mary Chain
    Atmosphere - Joy Division
    Don't Fall - The Chameleons
    Cannonball - The Breeders
    Glory Box - Portishead
    Kanga Roo - Jeff Buckley
    Slow Graffiti - Belle and Sebastien
    Brother Sport - Animal Collective
    Leif Erikson - Interpol
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    (Original post by neutralmilkhotel)
    I don't know about calling The Smiths an 'indie' band. :|
    Just skipped to the last post in the hopes of seeing some sense on here after three pages of people citing bands like the Smiths as indie..

    It'd be great if there was a thread about actual indie bands! And by that I don't mean Arctic Monkeys or whatever other bands came out of the British movement a while back.. I mean real people with real talent making a name for themselves on real independent labels.

    And seeing as you have Iron & Wine as your icon, I think we'd get along just fine
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    (Original post by saaail)
    Just skipped to the last post in the hopes of seeing some sense on here after three pages of people citing bands like the Smiths as indie..

    It'd be great if there was a thread about actual indie bands! And by that I don't mean Arctic Monkeys or whatever other bands came out of the British movement a while back.. I mean real people with real talent making a name for themselves on real independent labels.

    And seeing as you have Iron & Wine as your icon, I think we'd get along just fine
    Yeah, people seem to forget that indie means "independent". Aw, I love Iron and Wine. I've seen them/him live. Smiths and Libertines aren't indie..

    If anyone wants some good indie music, take a look at the label SUB POP
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    Sex on fire :facepalm2:
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    (Original post by neutralmilkhotel)
    If anyone wants some good indie music, take a look at the label SUB POP
    Seconded. The Secretly Canadian/Jagjaguwar/Dead Oceans sister labels are all class, too!
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    (Original post by neutralmilkhotel)
    Yeah, people seem to forget that indie means "independent". Aw, I love Iron and Wine. I've seen them/him live. Smiths and Libertines aren't indie..

    If anyone wants some good indie music, take a look at the label SUB POP
    The Smiths started off as indie under Rough Trade Records. Their later career led them to Sire and Warner which was perhaps a catalyst of a badder later period. Sub Pop is fab. but could you perhaps try and justify why The Smiths were not indie when they performed under an indie label?
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    (Original post by JK471993)
    The Smiths started off as indie under Rough Trade Records. Their later career led them to Sire and Warner which was perhaps a catalyst of a badder later period. Sub Pop is fab. but could you perhaps try and justify why The Smiths were not indie when they performed under an indie label?
    They did start out as indie, but then they moved onto a major label. But people are quoting some of their later stuff, that's all.
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    (Original post by neutralmilkhotel)
    They did start out as indie, but then they moved onto a major label. But people are quoting some of their later stuff, that's all.
    I accept your point. However, what about Libertines? They have always been Rough Trade. It is rare for successful indie bands to remain on indie labels, which is exactly what Libertines are doing.
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    (Original post by JK471993)
    ...but could you perhaps try and justify why The Smiths were not indie when they performed under an indie label?
    Sonic Youth were signed to an independent label.. As were Death Cab for Cutie and Arcade Fire and a bunch of other bands who've now moved on to bigger and better things. To me, anyway, these aren't indie bands any more. Stick 'em under any genre you want but their acclaim and, in the case of the Smiths, their legacy is beyond the independent tag.

    But that's just how I see it
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    (Original post by neutralmilkhotel)
    They did start out as indie, but then they moved onto a major label. But people are quoting some of their later stuff, that's all.
    Where do you stand on in rainbows?
    Are radiohead indie?
    And was in rainbows indie?
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    (Original post by neutralmilkhotel)
    They did start out as indie, but then they moved onto a major label. But people are quoting some of their later stuff, that's all.
    I really don't get why people care about this distinction. Are you actually saying that if a given band were to release an identical song, then, if done on a major label, this wouldn't be Indie, but, if on an independent label, it would? I mean, I can see that's how the classification originated and all, but to continue to define music not based on how it sounds just seems a bit silly, especially since that's not done wholly in this case anyway (since Indie is only really used for a specific subset of that music released on independent labels and all).
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    (Original post by Revolution is my Name)
    I really don't get why people care about this distinction. Are you actually saying that if a given band were to release an identical song, then, if done on a major label, this wouldn't be Indie, but, if on an independent label, it would? I mean, I can see that's how the classification originated and all, but to continue to define music not based on how it sounds just seems a bit silly, especially since that's not done wholly in this case anyway (since Indie is only really used for a specific subset of that music released on independent labels and all).
    On a slightly different note is it just how music sounds that we should judge music?
    Or is something lost in using auto tune and computers, or holy relying on them to make sounds that we may or may not consider to be music?
    Recently there was a belle and Sebastian song (I can't remember which one, but I have a feeling it was 'Mary Jo', I'm sure it was either from tiger milk or if your feeling sinister) playing in the car. My mum commented "oh that song would be so much better if the flute was in tune" once it had finished.

    We were then listening to the Cores (my brother and I were in the back of the car, and had no choice over this).

    I said to my brother "the flue was out of tune??? I didn't think it was".
    He remarked:
    "It wasn't, although it's interesting mum should say that as the music in this song is made from drum machines and computerised versions of instruments, which is odd as the Cores are allegedly a band of musicians" (from drum machines to guitars not actually being played).
    I might add that the singer's voice had been fairly heavily auto tuned.

    Is there something lost by not playing an instrument? Is music only about the sounds being made?
    Is there a higher quality that can be gained by using a real guitar and a real drum set, as opposed to computerised models?
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    (Original post by neutralmilkhotel)
    They did start out as indie, but then they moved onto a major label. But people are quoting some of their later stuff, that's all.
    I love your username, Neutral Milk Hotel. That is all .
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    I'm not a massive indie connoisseur but I love these songs...
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    (Original post by JoshCurran)
    I love your username, Neutral Milk Hotel. That is all .
    Aw thank you. Great band.
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    Ugh, I hate that I was negged on a post which ended with "but that's just how I see it." Come on, surely someone complaining about being given a negative rating is more of a reason to press that button than someone giving their opinion on such an open and clearly undefined topic!

    So hey there, anonymous person, can we agree to disagree and go back to debating the finer points of life? Like which is better - Scouting for Girls' first album or their second album?
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    It has to be Mr Brightside.
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    (Original post by Scouting for Girls)
    Kings of Leon - Sex on Fire
    How did song that sounds like it could have been by Springsteen the 80s come to be known as 'indie'?

    'Indie' originally meant independent labels but then it seemed to come to mean moody floppy haired people like The Smiths, The Stone Roses and The Charlatans making contrastingly upbeat jingly jangly guitar music. They were a contradiction within themselves - often bookish looking, part of an introspective north west scene and looking to quietly rule the world but, more importantly, doing so with a sense of mystery like some bands in the 60s did.

    Then Oasis turned 'indie' in to a populist football terrace anthems. But it wasn't really indie then (although some of their lesser known songs may have been). It was populist football terrace anthems. It was McCartney doing Hey Jude basically.

    And now 'indie' seems to be bands with ridic names attracting middle class cliques dressing like bohemian ruffians - dressing worse than tramps actually. They're not mysterious, they're just scruffy and pretentious and they usually can't write really classic songs.

    True indie ended with Blur or The White Stripes. Radiohead are indie in spirit too. They are not just middle class poseurs pretending to be tortured and sensitive and arty. There's more art in one of John Squire's Pollock knock-offs than in the cack handed art that many of these bands put on their sleeves.

    There's only ever been a very few really great songwriters in the world. They're often quite conservative people really which always annoys people because they like their rock stars to be degenerates.
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    The Killers - Mr Brightside
    The Killers - All These Things That I've Done
    Caesars - Jerk It Out
    Maximo Park - The Coast Is Always Changing
    Maximo Park - Acrobat
    Manchester Orchestra - I've Got Friends
    The Killers - Glamorous Indie Rock And Roll
    Glasvegas - Geraldine
    The Airborne Toxic Event - Sometime Around Midnight
    Interpol - Untitled
    Editors - Munich
    Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out

    Just some i can think of
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    The Twilight Sad - I Became a Prostitute

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2zgVcP5WYU


    The View - Streetlights

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXTBqEKvQ5Y


    Franz Ferdinand - 40"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnjZXrOgvzg


    The Strokes - Hard to Explain

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfDTkxV-X2w


    The Strokes - 12:51

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJh0zCyX-yU


    The Smiths - The Headmaster Ritual

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgNfTx9pGzA


    The Killers - Jenny Was a Friend of Mine

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W6o0cF9Qng


    Bloc Party - Banquet

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdkmhquF60o
 
 
 
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