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    (Original post by KardKaper)
    You deal with what, three or four patients a week? What happens when one of them dies? If you truly cared about them you would be an emotional wreck. And say if you actually cared about the patient, then you saved her life. What happens? You just try not to care about them when they go off and forget all about you?

    Besides, it's an "Idiots" claim to say that you care about someone you've never met before. It makes no sense. Do you care about the god knows how many people that die every day for no apparent reason - other than, of course, that they couldn't get access to life saving drugs?
    Actually, i dont deal with patients...yet. I would probably turn into an emotional wreck, im a very emotional person. I know i can't possibly care for everyone 24/7. But i can still be a caring person, for patients, friends, family.

    Also i dont believe in God. Care doesnt just mean, giving someone life-saving drugs or mending their bones. I can help people i haven't met, and that would still be caring. Talking to strangers.

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    It may be a bit of a Houseism, but i would agree that people rarely do things which they get nothing out of. Even if you are inconveniencing yourself to help someone, ultimately the reason for you doing that is the feeling of satisfaction you get from it.

    I want to be a doctor because i want a job that feels significant in some way, a job where i have real responsibility and where i know if i do my job incorrectly there are serious ramifications. I suppose you could argue that that is a desire for power, but either way it is done with good intentions.

    Also i think anyone who says that job stability, pay (at consultant level) and prestige didn't factor at all in their decision is probably lying. These weren't the main reasons i went into medicine, but they certainly factored into the decision.
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    1) The Challenge
    2) Scientific
    3) Social
    4) Money (Although I can't say that in the interview :ninja:)
    5) You're getting paid to help people in a job that you like.
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    (Original post by KardKaper)
    Is it the thrill of the chase that motivates you? The finding of a problem through means that are totally in your control? Is it the power of that?
    (Original post by KardKaper)
    To be honest, i think most people want to be doctors after being inspired by fictional characters. Characters like House (Hugh Laurie) from HouseMD.
    Surely you have been watching too much House, medicine is not a thrilling chase to the mysterious disease.
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    (Original post by hoonosewot)
    It may be a bit of a Houseism, but i would agree that people rarely do things which they get nothing out of. Even if you are inconveniencing yourself to help someone, ultimately the reason for you doing that is the feeling of satisfaction you get from it.

    I want to be a doctor because i want a job that feels significant in some way, a job where i have real responsibility and where i know if i do my job incorrectly there are serious ramifications. I suppose you could argue that that is a desire for power, but either way it is done with good intentions.

    Also i think anyone who says that job stability, pay (at consultant level) and prestige didn't factor at all in their decision is probably lying. These weren't the main reasons i went into medicine, but they certainly factored into the decision.
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    (Original post by billykwok)
    It is really quite hard to understand... most people, if not all, do things because it will reward themselves in the end; its just the intrinsic nature of organisms.
    Now if someone say they want to be a doctor because they are caring and compassionate, well, it is quite hard to believe; unless they also tell us what they have to gain themselves - you will not repeatedly do something which you do not gain reward for, and yet have to sacrifice. For example a sense of happiness, or rush from saving a live...
    Im just saying that someone out there, could definitely actually want to be a doctor cause they care enough. But i do agree that every intrinsic act is done to get a reward (perhaps sacrificing yourself for a stranger might break this rule) but there is nothing wrong with caring about someone and in return gaining a sense of happiness. Or adrenaline because surely some people might like that sense of rush. Its just the OP said "in which case I'll take you for an idiot and discount your opinion." which is just stupid and immature.

    To be a good doctor, you have to actually care for the person your treating?

    But to the OP, if I talk to the stranger and they have a problem. Then im generically inclined to try to help them even if i have my own problems at the same time.
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    maybe because of the pay?
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    (Original post by t3h_y0u553f)
    Surely you have been watching too much House, medicine is not a thrilling chase to the mysterious disease.
    I second this! I think OP wants to be house? With him saying "you only deal with three or four patients a week" and him saying that being kind makes you automatically stupid. And i dont honestly think that medicine is this amazing adventure every day, and that most of the time it isn't that intellectually taxing? :confused:
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    status and money..
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    (Original post by spacepirate-James)
    I second this! I think OP wants to be house? With him saying "you only deal with three or four patients a week" and him saying that being kind makes you automatically stupid. And i dont honestly think that medicine is this amazing adventure every day, and that most of the time it isn't that intellectually taxing? :confused:
    Sometimes as a junior when it a case of asking your seniors what to do and filling out paperwork.

    Ironically I am in the middle of watching house episodes at the moment. (beginning of season 3).
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    (Original post by t3h_y0u553f)
    Sometimes as a junior when it a case of asking your seniors what to do and filling out paperwork.

    Ironically I am in the middle of watching house episodes at the moment. (beginning of season 3).
    Yeah cause i used to watch a lot of house etc... But then went to do a couple weeks work experience in a hospital and was shocked at the paperwork :p: but now hopefully im clued up on what "real" doctors do.

    NB: I <3 House, season 3 beginning, didnt he get shot? :cool:
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    (Original post by spacepirate-James)
    But to the OP, if I talk to the stranger and they have a problem. Then im generically inclined to try to help them even if i have my own problems at the same time.
    Absolutely. This is probably true of most people who were brought up well. However as you said, you do get the reward of satisfaction when you help a person.

    I suppose you are right in that someone actually sacrificing their life for a stranger is the only true way of brekaing the rule, but when it comes down to it, how many people willingly give their lives for someone they don't know? Some may be killed in the act of saving someone, but the chances are they were expecting to survive most of the time.

    If someone was held at gunpoint with a stranger and told that one of them had to be shot for the other to survive, you've gotta think that when it comes down to the crunch, it would take a pretty special kind of person to willingly take a bullet.
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    (Original post by hoonosewot)
    Absolutely. This is probably true of most people who were brought up well. However as you said, you do get the reward of satisfaction when you help a person.

    I suppose you are right in that someone actually sacrificing their life for a stranger is the only true way of brekaing the rule, but when it comes down to it, how many people willingly give their lives for someone they don't know? Some may be killed in the act of saving someone, but the chances are they were expecting to survive most of the time.

    If someone was held at gunpoint with a stranger and told that one of them had to be shot for the other to survive, you've gotta think that when it comes down to the crunch, it would take a pretty special kind of person to willingly take a bullet.
    Nobody in their right mind would. At the end of the day, we're not all Mother Teresa... and life itself is full of blatant contradictions between our principles and moral values, and our actions. It doesn't mean we don't care though, it just means we can never care as much as someone closer to the person in question.

    The world isn't perfect, I've accepted that ages ago. Some people still haven't though and it's this 'holier-than-thou' attitude which annoys me.
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    (Original post by hoonosewot)
    If someone was held at gunpoint with a stranger and told that one of them had to be shot for the other to survive, you've gotta think that when it comes down to the crunch, it would take a pretty special kind of person to willingly take a bullet.
    Your right, it would take a certain person. Probably a very very certain person (i'm definitely not that kind of person). But thats probably the only true intrinsic act i can think off. Everything other "sacrificing" act is done for a reward. But for some people, they are genuinely caring (means) and then they like the feeling that they get due to that. But for some other people they only care because they want the feeling of satisfaction in the end.

    Small difference...but there is one.:yes:
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    (Original post by spacepirate-James)
    Your right, it would take a certain person. Probably a very very certain person (i'm definitely not that kind of person). But thats probably the only true intrinsic act i can think off. Everything other "sacrificing" act is done for a reward. But for some people, they are genuinely caring (means) and then they like the feeling that they get due to that. But for some other people they only care because they want the feeling of satisfaction in the end.

    Small difference...but there is one.:yes:
    I would say... a lot of people care but very, very few people care enough.

    Otherwise you'd see more doctors in Africa, for instance, particularly places like Somalia where they actually really need them.
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    Family tragedy, real bad, messed my whole family up so I have seen first hand what is like to have bad things happen to you or your family. and I believe I have good enough grades to go for it, so why not.....
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    (Original post by Toiletpaper8)
    I would say... a lot of people care but very, very few people care enough.

    Otherwise you'd see more doctors in Africa, for instance, particularly places like Somalia where they actually really need them.
    True. But the fact is, one could never care enough. But yeah i agree with you, there should be more doctors in places like Africa. Irony is, that with being a doctor comes a lot of money and probably a very sheltered lifestyle? So once again the great human characteristic selfishness beats caring....sigh....
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    Haven't checked here in a few days, and suddenly a million threads looking for answers for personal statements. What the hell did I expect? :p:
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    (Original post by KardKaper)
    You deal with what, three or four patients a week? What happens when one of them dies? If you truly cared about them you would be an emotional wreck. And say if you actually cared about the patient, then you saved her life. What happens? You just try not to care about them when they go off and forget all about you?

    Besides, it's an "Idiots" claim to say that you care about someone you've never met before. It makes no sense. Do you care about the god knows how many people that die every day for no apparent reason - other than, of course, that they couldn't get access to life saving drugs?
    I dont know... isn't being empathetic a way of making yourself care for someone you dont know by makin you think "if that happened to me how would I feel"? I know that when I empathise with someone, I end up willing the best for them naturally, i'm sure this happens with you too... I think thats one of the main reasons I think medicine would keep me motivated to do well over any other job.

    And just because you can care for somone after speaking to them for 5 minutes it doesn't mean you can't have a tough skin either...

    As for the question
    I want to do it at uni cause I like the subect matter; problem solving, human biology, really interesting most of the time, meeting new people every day and helping them through a subject that you are interested in. It would give me a sense of purpose and it would be complete because I'm not just helping them but I'm also feedng on my interests.

    And the number of specialities you could go into... medicine itself is so vague... i've still got the opportunity to really find out what I want to specialise in... buys me extra time because I know I like it vaguely but I've got no specifics in mind...

    I hate being asked this question though... I can never usually come up with a coherent answer just a list of reasons... I just know that it's what I would find most interesting at uni so I applied. And the aftermath sounds like an even more interesting and challenging thing even though I can't imagine me as a doctor just yet... I think I have it in me to make a good one if I worked hard at it...
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    I am fascinated by how our body works (and don't work), and i really want to be able to apply these knowledge and skills to helping people and hopefully making a difference to their lives. i also think the satisfaction you get out of helping someone is enormous and i doubt any other career can give you the same. furthermore, there's the respect and the feeling that you are important to people and doing something worthwhile.

    i think it is important for a good doctor to care for their patients, because if you don't care about them, why on earth would you want to spend so much time and effort helping them? i mean if your just going for the money, there's so many other careers which earns you a lot without requiring you to care about anyone.
 
 
 
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