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    (Original post by wtfhaffyduck)
    I went state... Ok our school was no heaven but i recon i did pretty well out of it! i have 14 GCSE's all A*- B, not trying to boast about my gcse's im just stating that you dont have to go private to get good grades and anyhow people on here get like straight A*'s.. yeah and i have pretty good social skills? Im personally really thankful to my parents for putting me in state school even though i pleaded so much to go to private school where some of my friends were going after primary.
    so by going to a private school you cant get social skills?
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    State.

    My school is great They spent over 7 million refurbishing and we have some of the highest marks in the West of Scotland. The teachers are fab and we have lots of activities, next year I hope to go to India to help APD which is organised by my school.
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    (Original post by antipoo)
    so by going to a private school you cant get social skills?
    No! Just saying alot of state schools are catorgized as being full of disrespectful foul mouthed 'chavs'.
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    (Original post by cats_have_teats)
    Er, just my experience.

    The lack of male attention creates a heightened *****iness factor. Having a boyfriend is seen as some sort of holy grail. It's been a long time since I was in school though.
    Girls in my school certainly didn't suffer from a lack of male attention, nor was having a boyfriend seen as much of anything important.

    Maybe that was the case in your school, but definitely not in mine.
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    (Original post by wtfhaffyduck)
    No! Just saying alot of state schools are catorgized as being full of disrespectful foul mouthed 'chavs'.
    and that gives you social skills?
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    (Original post by tazarooni89)
    I don't really see how that's true. Sure, if you go to a private school, you're not really going to be interacting with those children whose parents don't have much money.
    But then again, if you go to a state school, surely you won't be interacting with those children whose parents do have a lot of money?



    In what way are things laid out on a plate for you at a private school



    I would have thought that private schools gave you a good amount of life experience, what with all those school trips they organise to other countries and places of interest (such as ski trips), the activities that they have on offer (such as the Combined Cadet Force) etc.



    Why did anyone bother going to that private school then?

    My state school had school trips to foreign countries and that! we called it activities week and for a week in the south of france doing fun stuff it was around £400! There's also an optional ski trip!

    Also the town has army cadets and air cadets you can join for only a very small cost(like £15 every quarter). Theres loads of school clubs and we have a swimming pool aswell!

    And we do now how to comunicate with rich kids aswell because some rich people dont send there kids to private school! I come from a fairly well off family i would say(ski holidays and summer holidays every year) but they wouldnt send us to private school as they cant see the benefits and sending 4 of us to uni alone will be expensive!

    Then again my school is banchory academy-
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/8057484.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/7398211.stm

    It is the 4th best state school in scotland though and i wouldnt trade it for a thing shame ive left now but ill be at Endinbugh Uni next year!

    Disclaimer- I have not been to a private school and am not saying its worse I am just saying that some state schools have all the same things!
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    why send a pupil to a private school if they got into a grammerschool. You can get into a private school with money and no brains. You actually have to be smart to get into a grammer school.
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    (Original post by logic123)
    why send a pupil to a private school if they got into a grammerschool. You can get into a private school with money and no brains. You actually have to be smart to get into a grammer school.
    Not everywhere has grammar schools.



    Outside of these areas the old grammars are now private schools.
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    Grammar schools attract the top 5% of boys and girls. The government should expend the state grammar school system as i am sure there are that there are many comprehensive school kids (particularly those in the top stream) that could succeed in a grammar school environment but for want of a good local grammar school. We have to blame socialist dogma for the educational mess we in. Everything is dumbed down to the the lowest common denominator.
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    (Original post by Ben77mc)
    How can that be beneficial?

    I definatley believe its beneficial. Most of my mates are in the top class for everything but because we mix with people of all abilities they understand more how stuff that they find easy is hard for other people. for example i really struggle with maths , always have done always will. But im in the top class for everything else i do. Before they thought everyone in "foundie" classes were chavs/neds but cos we all mix they know thats not true as they meet people who arent in the top set for everything but are still nice people.
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    (Original post by scottishGirl)
    Most of my mates are in the top class for everything but because we mix with people of all abilities they understand more how stuff that they find easy is hard for other people.
    How is this beneficial?
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    (Original post by Pads)
    My state school had school trips to foreign countries and that! we called it activities week and for a week in the south of france doing fun stuff it was around £400! There's also an optional ski trip!

    Also the town has army cadets and air cadets you can join for only a very small cost(like £15 every quarter). Theres loads of school clubs and we have a swimming pool aswell!

    And we do now how to comunicate with rich kids aswell because some rich people dont send there kids to private school! I come from a fairly well off family i would say(ski holidays and summer holidays every year) but they wouldnt send us to private school as they cant see the benefits and sending 4 of us to uni alone will be expensive!

    Then again my school is banchory academy-
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/8057484.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/7398211.stm

    It is the 4th best state school in scotland though and i wouldnt trade it for a thing shame ive left now but ill be at Endinbugh Uni next year!

    Disclaimer- I have not been to a private school and am not saying its worse I am just saying that some state schools have all the same things!

    Ah Banchory academy! I'm from Ellon Academy about an hour away from you.

    And i totally agree state schools get good trips to! For example when my cousin was at school she went on a new york trip. This year at our school there was a belgium/france trip , last year there was a drama/dance trip in italy , in previous years there have been water sports trips in spain , theres often trips to big rugby games , theres a trip to West Coast Camp each year which an art teacher runs as he owns land in W.Scotland where theres rock climbing etc , theres yearly trips to france and germany for higher language students , ski trips to italy every year.
    So yeah state schools can do trips just like private schools

    Extra curricular wise we do alot our school takes part in Rock Challenge - dance and drama competition , Shakesphere festival , Mock Trial - law competition , various sports , drama club , orchestra/jazz band/choir etc..

    Yes, private schools probebly have alot more than we do but i think we get our fair share of stuff to do. Again i understand not all state schools have these opportunites but it shows you that not all state schools are bad
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    (Original post by BJack)
    How is this beneficial?
    it means that no-one has a snobby atitude to people who arent as smart as themselves (which is generally the wealthier kids being smart and those not so wealthy being in the lower sets) so it stops sterotyping and as mentioned by many people gives kids at state school more social awareness and stuff.
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    Parents with enough money and want a better education for their kids send them to private schools. Its that simple. They want to give their child a better chance in life, and are willing to pay for it. What people have against this I don't know.

    Also , to all the state-school students who say it provides them with a better view of the real world: if you want to see the "real world" you should go visit a slum in Africa or Asia. That is the "real world."

    Finally, as a private school student you are given opportunities to go abroad (I have been to 7 different countries on school trips in the last year alone) and gain experience. Surely more useful than "meeting lots of different people."
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    (Original post by Tony2DaMax)
    Parents with enough money and want a better education for their kids send them to private schools. Its that simple. They want to give their child a better chance in life, and are willing to pay for it. What people have against this I don't know.

    Also , to all the state-school students who say it provides them with a better view of the real world: if you want to see the "real world" you should go visit a slum in Africa or Asia. That is the "real world."

    Finally, as a private school student you are given opportunities to go abroad (I have been to 7 different countries on school trips in the last year alone) and gain experience. Surely more useful than "meeting lots of different people."

    Personally , i'm not arguing that its not a good thing to do if you can afford it which most of us cant.
    For people who can afford it and that live in area where the schools arent great i understand.
    However many state schools that are good are a great alternative for those of us who cant afford a private education but still want a good education if you have a good state school.
    And yes meeting chavs etc is a good experience of the real world. We live in britain and should learn to understand all the different types of british people. However i also understand how important it is to see developing countries like you say. One of my mates has just got back from south africa and another has just gone to bolivia where she will be living with no sanitation. i would love to do this one day and will hopefully voulnteer in one of these countries when im older.
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    (Original post by tazarooni89)
    I don't really see how that's true. Sure, if you go to a private school, you're not really going to be interacting with those children whose parents don't have much money.
    But then again, if you go to a state school, surely you won't be interacting with those children whose parents do have a lot of money?
    There is much more diversity amongst those attending state schools than private. Some who attend state schools do have much greater incomes than others.. not everyone who is loaded goes to private school.



    (Original post by tazarooni89)
    In what way are things laid out on a plate for you at a private school
    Facilities, reputation of school giving students advantages at uni, interview practice etc...



    (Original post by tazarooni89)
    I would have thought that private schools gave you a good amount of life experience, what with all those school trips they organise to other countries and places of interest (such as ski trips), the activities that they have on offer (such as the Combined Cadet Force) etc.
    Yes, to an extent they do.. But I was referring to the reality of everyday life, not swish holidays abroad.



    (Original post by tazarooni89)
    Why did anyone bother going to that private school then?
    No idea.
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    (Original post by katierattray)
    well the people who I know that went to private school are a little inexperienced in dealing with social situations and dont really know how to cope on their own.

    If you go to a private school the diversity of the people you are with is totally different then to the diversity at state schools.
    Yes its different in the fact you meet more diverse people.

    I have attended state and private, and teh private school was alot more diverse. People from all over the world were studying there.

    Somoeone wrote some rubbish abour better life expereinces. Well, the amount of different cultures i have come across in my school and on school trips is much more useful than having met the class chav who will probably have died of a drug overdose by the time he's 20.

    People claiming state is better are just jealous.
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    Oh and the way to overcome the problem is to make all state schools private, and provide every parent with an education voucher worth £9,000. This will save money, cut beaurocracy, and give everyone the same options that currently only the rich have.
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    (Original post by pleaserecycle)
    There is much more diversity amongst those attending state schools than private. Some who attend state schools do have much greater incomes than others.. not everyone who is loaded goes to private school.
    Not everyone who is "poor" goes to a state school either though. There are plenty of people who get in through bursaries and scholarships, and plenty of people whose parents aren't rich but work really hard to save up money to send them. There are very few people who I'd actually say are "loaded". Unless you're going to Eton or something.

    Yes, to an extent they do.. But I was referring to the reality of everyday life, not swish holidays abroad.
    How does a state school provide a better experience of everyday life? Life in a school is never going to be the same as outside everyday life, is it?
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    (Original post by mattbroon)
    Oh and the way to overcome the problem is to make all state schools private, and provide every parent with an education voucher worth £9,000. This will save money, cut beaurocracy, and give everyone the same options that currently only the rich have.
    This will do nothing but put more emphasis on academic performance at the age of 11: there will be good privates and bad privates charging £9k a year, and the clever children will go to the good ones, and the less clever ones at 11 will end up at the worse ones. What you have suggested would make the system worse.
 
 
 
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